This news article about FTTR left me scratching my head. What is the value proposition in adopting this technology?

Given that the article talks about fibering individual rooms in your home, for Gigabit speeds.
I’ve already done it with my own Gigabit PoE switch and Cat 5e to each room.

Assuming that we are taking about a clean slate, that may be something worth considering depending on the cost of equipment and fiber runs, but I don’t see how it’ll be beneficial to existing home installations.

In addition, all the equipment seems to be owned by thr ISP. So you won’t have any real control over network configuration and management in your own home either.

Maybe someone has a better idea of why it would be useful.

For now no benefit. The true benefit is future technology when we want 10 to 100GBps speed in our homes which current wifi technology cannot support.

Rule of thumb is higher speed -> lower range for wireless devices hence need multiple access points at the house

The only thing missing in my current setup is 10 Gbps (or 2.5 Gbps) to each room. I can and have installed WiFi over PoE for the rooms already so there is no different from what FTTR purportedly offers. Besides the per-room ONT still needs a power outlet to work.

Cat 5e cabling might be an issue if it can’t run at greater than 1 Gbps speed, but wiring or re-wiring is needed in either situation.

The important thing is that the PoE switch and WiFi is owned and managed by myself, there is no outside party involved if I want to make a configuration change. All the single WiFi SSID and seamless roaming between rooms has nothing to do with FTTR, it is just how WiFi works.

This post has been edited by tcwan: Sep 28 2023, 07:42 PM

Cat 5e is capable for 2.5G,and it might also work up to 5G(But this might depends of the quality of the cable,proper cable will work)

FTTR is for futureproof for 10G or higher speed and more stability. (Currently most FTTR device setup should also run about 1-2G speed to every room only)
But currently it is not cost-effective for custom diy network,as you need to buy converter to work with current market device.(Fiber to Ethernet).

But if ISP does provide FTTR device for every room needed, and you still want to live at the premise after 7-10years later,then FTTR is okay to implement.

For now, proper Cat 6A ethernet cable is enough for 10G for most house setup.

Yeah what's the point when your WAN to the internet is only 30Mbps?

Even Wifi 2.4GHz also enough already.

Yeah for now.

Pray you will get affordable 10Gbps Fibre internet in Malaysia for the next 10 years.

Prepare for the future? Pray that you get to live long enough to plug in your decade old FTTR lying around.

Trying to "be different". Like driving a Ferrari to the wet market.

i can easily feel the difference between using cat8 and lower even just on wifi connection and no direct cable connection

most donkey only look at speedtest numbers and cannot tell the difference in responsiveness resulting from higher frequency

its like the difference between usb2 and usb3 on certain devices like network and bluetooth adapters or the difference between using stock charging cable and fast charging on speaker can definately feel it on the computer

It's like setting up a charging station in your house and telling yourself that you'll get an EV in the next coming years once it gets popular in the country.

yes i also wondering,but i guess is for future la.

some say fibre is near zero latency, ethernet got latency. fibre also can carry many different wavelengths in one single strand, might be more beneficial for full duplex saturation

my router not also is already capable of utilizing 10gbps internet, just need to upgrade switch later for fibre run or 2.5 / 10gbps to the whole house

right now everything is 1gbps,

its more about laying foundation for future.

Right now our packages tops at 1gbps and olt still use the old 2.4gbps gpon.

Aside from insignificant latency improvement and some network management advantage there is not much to gain.

But once our infra catches up and packages get even faster, the benefit will become apparent. especially on internal networking cost.

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This post has been edited by nonamer: Sep 29 2023, 01:56 PM

you can buy your own FTTR device right now or in the near future, like you buy your own router, just that FTTR device brand maker right now cooperate with isp to push their new FTTR device to the mass market.

you imagine it like this lah;
• no hacking, just "paste" the fiber strand onto your wall, all the way to wanted corner of your premise. the "room" in the name is just euphemism to describe anywhere other than where your main router is.
• it's for LAN-to-LAN purpose.
• and of course the average joes and janes out there don't have equipment to convert the fibre signal into electrical pulse; that's why they came bundled with ISP equipment.

With 1k mouse 2k chair 3k headphone 8k monitor and water cool CPU, you need something to match on networking side... FTTR to the rescue....lol

make sure no cat in your house biting it…lol

FTTR akan menyelesaikan isu bilik dengan ruang atau struktur yang besar dengan dinding tebal yang menghalang penghantaran isyarat Wi-Fi yang tidak dapat ditangani oleh peranti jaringan Wi-Fi biasa.

wiser article make sense
slow wi-fi ?
subscribe Fibre-to-the-Room (FTTR) service
https://wiser.my/celcomdigi-tawar-penyelesa...ndah-rm60-bulan

Ok, so this is all hypothetical, but let's presume that Fiber <-> Copper Ethernet takes ~1 ms due to going through a switch/ONT.

Within the LAN, the latency woun't be affected enough to make any difference, since the connections will probably end up on the same switch where no media conversion is needed (unless you happen to use UTP for one connection and SFP for another).

For Internet connections, I think the latency would be affected more by routing, firewall & CGNAT (since most of us are still dependent on private IPv4 from the ISP). The additional latency due to media conversion is probably negligible as well.

So to me, the only use case for FTTR is being able to use the same fiber for future bandwidth upgrade beyond 1 Gbps. If that is the case, the difference between regular SFP Ethernet and FTTR seems to boil down to how much $$$ difference there is between the two deployments.

Edit: To add to the point I made, currently with PoE over UTP, we can already go up to 10 Gbps with less deployment issues (no need to have a power socket in the room location). So the window of opportunity for FTTR does not seem to be very large, unless they're targeting 10 Gbps and beyond. As a new technology, it's also competing against Ethernet which has wiped off all other competing standards over the years.

This post has been edited by tcwan: Sep 30 2023, 01:59 PM

i imagine the process would be something like this

so wired backhaul to all the mesh wifi units ya?

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Oct 6 2023, 04:59 PM

This one makes more sense honestly. 😀