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 Do anyone know about WHAT IS SUNSHINE EMPIRE?, Just a new type of MLM company,

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post Oct 25 2007, 03:34 AM

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http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_dis...d=220726&page=0
http://www.thelocalking.com/singapore/misc...ine-empire.html

Mandarin newspaper
http://sps.nus.edu.sg/~wongjian/20071018192941390.pdf
http://sps.nus.edu.sg/~wongjian/20071018192833712.pdf



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post Oct 25 2007, 04:02 PM

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1) AMWAY is a listed company. confirm every year got annual report.
http://www.amway2u.com/corporate/en_US/amabout_corp.jsp
2) any company listed or not also need to have report for share holders to see, if not who the hell knows whats going on with their money
3) Sunshine empire was an investment company, last time no products, no emall, no shit, only selling TAIWAN wireless project which they have no proof to verify its related to them, exactly like swisscash claiming that they are investing in swiss mutual funds
4) boss James Phang is better than Warren Buffett as he claimed, in conning ppl. pls go google for his history, its not only available in the internet but also well known among senior MLMers
5) not possible for a company to promise so high return within such a short period of time, if their project is really that great, really that grand, every bank will send representative to queue to borrow them money. no need to collect investment capital from us the small prawns, correct?

i am not saying that this is a 100% scam company, those are what i found out when i heard about this company almost 2yrs ago.

put yourself out of the company and look back at it from a neutral point of view, see if it still sound so logical to you.
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post Nov 2 2007, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 1 2007, 10:50 AM)
Until now, a lot of people struggling to know what is the company business? what are they selling? Can't find in their website or information regarding it.
Anybody knows?
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at first, sunshine empire attracts investors to venture into their Taiwan wireless project, and as part of their effort to convince investors to get even more investors, they chartered a plane to fly those "bigger investors" to Taiwan to see their project in progress, and that was back in early 2006.

then of late, my friend who went to Hong Kong for business trip came back telling us that Sunshine Empire set up a luxurious office at Kowloon area where the members there are told of another MEGA project in Malaysia and they would fly those investors to Malaysia to see their investment.(good strategy right? fly malaysian go taiwan, then fly hongkie come malaysia, at the end of the day everybody goes back happy thinking their money is well invested, but....)

now they claim to be property developer as well, from a chinese magazine my housemate saw a couple of days ago, malacca chief minister ali rustam was present at their ground breaking ceremony in malacca, project is shown in website linked below
http://empirepropertyventure.com/
whatever it is, i think public will find it very confusing where local newspaper oriental daily warned against investing in sunshine empire while malacca chief minister is officiating the ground breaking of a supposedly black listed company by securities commission.
what the hell is going on in malaysia?

i think it should be highlighted that sunshine empire has no relationship with company below though one of sunshine empires affiliate is also named emcom technology(established year 2006) while the taiwanese company below since 1975, it is pretty misleading(perhaps another well planned move of Uncle James??)
http://www.emcom.com.tw/



this i see already also wanna laugh
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The HBC International Group, a leading MLM corporation with a strong regional presence in Asia , is positioned to shape the future of Multilevel Marketing.

HBC International pledges to continue in the spirit, tradition and culture of NOP under the able leadership of Mr. James Phang to build and grow the company through aggressive sales and marketing efforts in tandem with professional human development training.

HBC International is committed to educating the public on legitimate MLM, and not some dubious schemes that promise get-rich-quick formula for success many perceived it to be. A significant portion of the fault for casting doubt on legitimate marketing businesses lies with the antics of some overzealous distributors.

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Nov 1 2007, 11:45 PM)
wah china ar ??? so they doing MLM or direct sales in china ar ??
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if im not mistaken, seems like MLM/direct sales company license very diff to get in china, so i doubt if its officially in china with AJL(china) license to operate with.

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post Nov 11 2007, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(happy4ever86 @ Nov 11 2007, 02:23 AM)
wah, why suddenly hav microsoft come out de =.=
somemore have gangster tim, out of topic la wei, what era now oh, still kill he kill she meh...
ya, i know that james phang history, he have failed b4 and have negative record...
but then, he willing to try again, he willing try to sucess his MLM business once again ...
impossible a couple break up because of the boy, the boy won't get any gf after this gua... (just a examples la, dun shoot me =p)

as everything i check at malaysia, SE have been approved by KPDN for doing MLM business, but within 1 week time, KPDN have received not more than 10 ppl asking about whether this company is a scam company or not, so KPDN have stop giving out the license and investigate SE company.

KPDN told that SE will get their MLM license once their name have been remove from investor alert by SC. SE lawyer is having discussion with SC now, SC told that will still investigate SE company futher more few months, if prove that between this few months didn't have any people get scammed or the person that complaint about SE is getting reduce, SC will remove SE name from the investor alert list. (This case is similar to well known MLM company that selling perfume befor)

because lots of SE members didn't use the correct way to explain to their prospect, claim that this is a investment plan or investment company, actually not, we are doing MLM business. We buy package, having Mall Point, redeem items at e-shop, company earn money, monthly 10% turn over for members rebate...

at singapore, SE have been put at MAS investor alert list, because last year Oktober or September(not very sure which month), SE started rebate reward to members, few of Singapore bank short of money because SE members is withdrawal their bonus.... So MAS have put SE in investor alert list, as the money that withdrawal is a large amount...

Nowadays at Singapore, when SE members gonna withdrawal money from bank, they will requested fill up a form, check whether SE company is MLM business or Investment business, and have been SE delay urs bonus before...

that's all i can explain, since this thread is about discuss only, there is no need having flame or any argue at here, SE members didn't hard sell at here, try to be peace and cool down discuss about this company.

Any people have their own choice where to put their money, as you dislike MLM business, you can out of this, we are not forcing whole world gonna join us or under our company... correct? You want to put your money at where is yours dicision, we can't control.

I will try harder to answer anyone with my knowledge, but hope that didn't turn this thread to a flame thread, thanks.
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1) you said SE was approved by KPDNHEN for doing MLM, and was about to issue them an AJL license right? who told you this? your upline? james phang? or u did actually call up KPDNHEN yourself to ask?
2) do you know why SE is in SC list? it is because previously SE was collecting investment funds from public and they are not authorized to do so. actually how old are you already in the company, did you know how SE started in M'sia? you're member from which state, happy4ever?
3) Singapore bankS short of money? dont be ridiculous, there's only about USD400M of funds under James' "management" even if he does payout 20% of it its only USD80, which converts to about S100+Million only, the bonus was not withdrawn on the same day, same time, not all in the same bank, its freaking ridiculous to tell ppl Singapore banks total up over a few yrs time dont have 100Million to pay out causing them forced to black list SE right?

just my opinions, i hope you are not so into the company that u only see what they want you to see, go around, talk to your more knowledgeable friends, ask for their comments on all this kind of issue, maybe you will learn something new.
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post Jan 2 2008, 10:40 PM

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i heard some rumors saying that singapore side is down, is it true?

 

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