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AbbyCom
post Sep 19 2023, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(kh12321 @ Sep 19 2023, 09:56 AM)
The recent decline in the NAV(Price) of the RHB funds are due to one of its sukuk holdings, Alpha Circle being written off by fund manager. Therefore, RHB fund manager have embarked on an exercise to write down (zerorise) all market value of Alpha Circle Sdn Bhd (ACSB) Sukuk effective 11 August 2023

Affected funds
1)        RHB Bond Fund
2)        RHB Energy Fund
3)        RHB Golden Dragon Fund
4)        RHB Goldenlife Today
5)        RHB Growth & Income Focus Trust
6)        RHB Income Fund 2
7)        RHB Islamic Bond Fund
8)        RHB Kidsave Trust

As investors who buy the bonds encountered a sudden lose. Funds were managed inappropriately by incompetent fund manager & team. What should we do to reclaim back the money?
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Funds #6 & 7 were severely impacted. The fund managers have to answer for the concentration risk they did with such a significant portion of the funds' portfolio invested in the sukuk.

These are the risks investing in unit trusts, I don't think unitholders can claim back the money - there are no PIDM for unit trust funds.

Maybe can sue for damages if the fund managers & trustees violate their own trust deed/stated fund objectives by overconcentrating in one sukuk, but it is unlikely you can get your money back.

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post Sep 19 2023, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(kh12321 @ Sep 19 2023, 11:20 AM)
AbbyCom,
How to sue/lodge a complaint for damages if the fund managers & trustees violate their own trust deed/stated fund objectives by overconcentrating in one sukuk? What is the governance body that we can complaint to?
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I no longer follow UT in Malaysia. But from the RHB Income Trust Fund 2 prospectus at https://studylib.net/doc/8658389/rhb-income-fund-2. The regulatory body is Securities Commission. So you can go and file a complaint there. In the prospectus (bottom of page 4 and top of page 5) you can contact RHBAM, SIDREC or SC for complains and dispute resolution.

The RHB Fund prospectus did not mention any mitigation for concentration risk, unlike the UT funds I was more familiar with, the Public Mutual funds - they have investment restrictions in clause 1.4 of the prospectus like the screen shot below where investment in any one issuer cannot exceed 10% of their NAV.

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While it is not mentioned in the RHB prospectus, need to see whether the trust deed between RHB and HSBC Trustees mentioned the investment restriction or not (but I don't think RHBAM and HSBC Trustees will reveal incriminating evidence against themselves to you).

I am no expert, it's just some things I learn how to hold fund managers to their own rules stated in the prospectus and to exit the investment if fund manager violate their own rules.

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post Sep 19 2023, 12:05 PM

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Looking at the number of RHB funds impacted and the % of impact to their NAV, this looks like one fund manager is managing multiple RHB funds and is being lazy by just investing in the same sukuk/issuer for all the funds under the fund manager. This also happens with Public Mutual.
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post Sep 19 2023, 01:52 PM

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Bring this clause 1.7.7 to SIDREC or SC and see if you have grounds to file a complain and whether compensation is allowed. All the best, TS.

The clause seem to have a few loop holes to allow investment to exceed 20% or 30%. Let's see if the fund manager have any excuses/answers to SC to exceed that percentage.
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post Sep 19 2023, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 19 2023, 02:56 PM)
Whats the reason to bring up 1.7.7?
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Clause 1.7.7 say any one issuer cannot be more than 20% of the NAV to prevent concentration risk.

The NAV impact to two RHB funds as a result of zerorizing the sukuk value are above 20%, so fund manager 'allegedly' seems to have not followed the clause 1.7.7 in not letting any issuer be more than 20% of NAV.

But this being a legal document that we commoners do not quite understand, we raise this clause up to SIDREC/SC and see what is the reply, because there seem to be a few loophole for the fund manager to exceed the limit.

For example when fund manager bought the bonds, the NAV is below 20% but over time the bond value could have gone up or redemption to the unit trust fund have reduced the overall NAV such that this single issuer's NAV is >20%. The clause should then provide a time frame for the fund manager to reduce his exposure to below 20%.

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post Sep 19 2023, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 19 2023, 01:04 PM)
Not to sound rude or unsympathetic.

Why would you think you can reclaim anything back? Started from entitlement behavior that is prevalent in Malaysia?

UT is an investment. You should expect to see some losses. There is no guarantees.

Even government bonds also you should expect a small chance of loss.
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Yep, UT no PIDM style protection, however TS has the right to seek explanation from FM or to find out if any risk mitigation SOP(s) were not followed.
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post Sep 19 2023, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Sep 19 2023, 05:38 PM)
For discussion sake...

It's not a loophole. They are allowed to go all the way to 30% provided they meet certain rating conditions.

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Yes, for discussion's sake and to help TS have at least some avenues for redress instead of just accepting his fate. TS really at a loss what to do.

Also to put fund manager(s) on the spot so that if he/she really messed up, don't get away so easily. Or at least for TS to get a proper explanation rather than just take the NAV writedown like that.



BTW, you seem like someone quite well versed in these matters, any thing to advise TS?

 

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