Yes i concur changing DNS give you different results.

He don't know what the purpose of DNS.

yes, result is fine, sometimes one.one.one.one stable, sometimes Google DNS stable, sometimes HK DNS stable, sometimes Even china mainland DNS is stable.
Just use which one you prefer.

I just written into host file because I not gonna host my own DNS server for it.

Yes, I said it is only unique to Public bank, all website is 100% fine.
He said Host file is the issues lol.

But, if I use Host File, it will be 0ms, because both Firefox and Chrome will get the DNS result from Host file.
Even Best Trace will do the same.

But nope, he said it is my user error, without test on his side, did it also 10s waiting on DNS or not...

He just like others said, drag you into their own little logic world, fight using their experience.
Ignoring all the fact and proof, only the answer is matter.

His will never stop, until get me agree on his answer, not truth.

I will be sorry if in the end I found out it is on my side, as I finally found out the truth of why PBE so 10s seeking on DNS, on any browser.
I sure will, you can quote me on this word.

But...
Will he?

It will not be matter, because, I found out the truth and learn something.

Love your confidence. As if TM know you closed your browser and open it again. Throttle this guy whenever he open his browser and visit pbebank.com

Highly emotional.

Chill. Can we all agree to disagree?

Question,

If I set Google DNS on my router, but on my Android phone I set Adguard DNS in Private DNS settings, that will mean all my browser/youtube use is through Adguard DNS right? It bypasses the DNS I set in router?

Aiya, give me some times, I will sure dig it out the truth.
let me cook!!!

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/let-him-cook...t-that-boy-cook

We already did, only he still reject on DNS result can speed up network, because we are getting to connect different server which, well, the routing is fine.

So yes, just change DNS as you need, it is very simple on Android now.

Here is the trick.
By default, setup Google DNS as your default DNS in your router, then, setup one.one.one.one on your Android settings, then disabled it.

If got problem, switch it over.
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You can do the same by reverse it, but with google.dns as DNS over TLS la.
This one really no need "LONG POST DIG PROOF"....

Yes, unless your application designed to bypass the Private DNS, and make request on his own.
You can do that

For example, during old time without Android secure DNS.
For UC Webview engine used in Alipay and Taobao, it ignored my WiFi DNS setting, and going via their hardcoded DNS which is Aliyun DNS...

But now(based on my observe, 1 years ago?) they "fixed" it by honor the DNS settings, finally!!!
yes, if you turn off then on the WiFi during using these 2 apps, it might get kick back as fallback solution, lol.

But nope, so far I don't observe any Application doing that, unless you request it to do so.
(Like set up different secure DNS inside your Chrome browser).

All I will comment regarding the differences between Cloudflare and Google DNS is ECS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDNS_Client_Subnet

Cloudflare does not support it, while Google DNS does

counter offer i know its RM119 not RM110 i think you wrong
all counter offer they will offering RM119 only not RM110 i am sure

Answer out.
Finally!

And nope, it is not something like DNSKEY, but much more simple.

Clue:
1. It happen on my laptop
2. It happen on my mon's laptop
3. It happen on UniFi
4. It don't happen on Streamyx
5. It happen on different location, home town and Melaka.

Answer?
Orange Router: NETIS DL4480V1_2.0.9e

lol to MAX!!!
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So here is explain what's happen/going on.

On each application on different device, they are querying for
A, and AAAA record.

But...
No one answer for AAAA...

Yes, if you perform A and AAAA query, it should answer A, and answer AAAA result.
But there is error on the router's Firmware, someone written DNS relay wrongly, which, I don't know how la.
Or
it can be CPU corrupted data, like my old WiFi Repeater that failed to allow me open 192.168.1.1/status, and it only happen on n Mode.(should be WiFi4? lol)
(Which I fixed it by flashing OpenWRT, and found out it got patched for this CPU corruption.)

In the end, only A record get the result, but NULL for the AAAA record, blackhole.

So, all application, Firefox, Chrome, BestTrace, are waiting the AAAA Record result that never get answer by Router's DNS relay.
Then, finally, timeout kicked in, and force them into connecting A Record.
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And yes, this explain why, secure DNS/DNS over TLS/DNS over HTTPS is better, you skipped the DNS relay part, which router got never updated firmware, and who know, what's going on inside...


Conclusion:
NETIS Router DL4480V1_2.0.9e's DNS relay don't like AAAA www.pbebank.com, any result about pbebank getting drop silently by the router.

It is router's firewall doing it, or DNS relay doing it, I don't know, but at least I found out the truth.
YAY~~~

Hei, I done my part, it is 1%, happy?
Bye.

you have IPv6 enabled on WAN's side?

what if custom-DNSv6 in client device (i.e. skip resolving AAAA using router)?
does it eliminate the time length?

probably she want to give extra RM9

I am happy for you. The problem is still on your side.
Don't scream routing problem when it's actually your own hardware problem. None of your own advice works in this case. Your very own DNS problem doesn't means Public Bank get the blame either, or Cloudflare DNS, or Google DNS.

Does TM share the responsibility? Maybe, since they supply the hardware.

Use more logic instead of emotion next time.

About my long dig story, I don't do butt dyno. Measure it or it's just "feeling".

If I don't come and challenge you, you will still be blaming routing problem or other people's DNS problem instead of you.

Oh, you did learn my DNS diagnostic technique right? The Timing tool in Firefox. LMAO.

Anyway, proud of you. Fast learner.

wow daam lucky discount RM9
its ok la mine RM119 6month free bill and 500mbps

i switch to maxis today. RM129 for 300mbps
sick of their super far route

Yes, IPv6 enabled, it is showing IPv6 on my post, right?

And nope, it is not IPv6 related, it happen on both DNS relay server, which is IPv4 192.168.1.1 and IPv6 fe80::65e::Removed(Sry, that's my router Mac address lol).

Yes, overwrite by setting 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 on my Windows 10's NIC/network card's IPv4 and the same IPv6 DNS for IPv6, problem solved.

Sadly NETIS don't allow me to setup IPv6 DNS at DHCP/SLAAC, only IPv4 DHCP allowed...
Based on my recall it is quite buggy, so I also avoid it...


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Anyways.
The problem is DNS Relay not respond to AAAA result, only, for, PBE, lol!!!!

I tested a lot like "dig aaaa www.baidu.com" or "dig aaaa www.qq.com" or "dig aaaa www.weibo.com", even those IPv4 only test website like https://ipv4.jamieweb.net/, all return with result.


For PBE, it is


But it should be




For extra, I also tested on my Android phone using Net Analyzer, the result is "Status: ERROR".
If I set it to 8.8.8.8, the result is "Status: SERVFAIL"
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Ok, I double checked the result, there is 1 thing, special only for PBE.

1. PBE don't return their CNAME, and it is status: SERVFAIL in app.
2. For v4.ipv6test.app It is "Status: NOERROR" in app, with DIG you can see it got "AUTHORITY SECTION".

So I think the bug is either 2
1. If "status: SERVFAIL" in result(as shown in DIG)
or
2. If there is empty AUTHORITY SECTION from DNS server

The DNS RELAY on this NETIS router will drop the result...

So it is unlucky that, PBE setup wrongly on their AAAA for, at least 4 years?

lol, still fxxk u.

I never blaming routing problem, or other people's DNS problem, you still adding other's fault on my head, adding TM fault on my head.
Yet, I blame on PBE, and I am still correct.

Seem like the problem is PBE failed to configure AAAA correctly, it is status: SERVFAIL for it.

So the router's DNS relay saw it is "status: SERVFAIL", and dropped it.

Did DNS relay did it wrong/out of spec?
I don't know

Did browser did it wrong for keep waiting AAAA result?
I don't know, they got Happy Eyeballs, but, it only applied to server, not DNS AAAA result.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Eyeballs

Should they perform changing?
Except DNS relay should not drop result, only PBE need to fix their AAAA record, even it only host for IPv4.

And for you, here is the gift.

https://zh.moegirl.org.cn/zh-hans/%E6%88%91...%89%9B%E8%82%89
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1vu4y1a72J/

蛮不讲理(Unreasonable), here is my tags for you.

Blaming others to win for your answer, saying your logic is better than my logic, lol!!!
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It is just like, I drive 10 years old car, I do maintenance and checking car period, based on the car's manual.
Then, it crashed, the result is there is bug or stackoverflow happen on the car's break assistance Firmware, very hard to trigger, it taken a certain degree to press on the break on certain time, certain speed, certain force.

With a lot of effort, I finally found it out, proof it.
Then you are like: Hahahahaha, I told you it is your fault, you should not using this old and low end B40 car!!!
And drive your new car away, on the TM bad route.

This post has been edited by BenYeeHua: Nov 28 2023, 01:32 PM

You are welcome.

Another nice troll by you, lol.

Are we at /k?
I am sure I am on "Networks and Broadband"

Here is your result, safe mode + profiling.


It did nothing, but showing it is DNS error, again, as F12 - networking.

Based on bugzilla, they mention their profiling tools are greatly limited, lol.

Anyways, I am here to learn based on Truth, not TROLL!!
Fuck off if you do nothing to this thread!!!