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TSRaymond T.
post Sep 17 2023, 10:02 PM, updated 3y ago

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SYNDICATES led by unscrupulous repossessors are exploiting bank records to repossess vehicles with outstanding loans. The minutes they have possession of the vehicles, they orchestrate the illegal sale.

The modus operandi of the syndicates is to put on a helpful front, assuring loan defaulters that their vehicles would be well cared for. And that this was an alternative to being blacklisted by banks.

Some would also offer to help find new buyers, promising loan defaulters the minimum amount of compensation.

The NST Focus' months-long investigation found that these "recycled" vehicles, are commonly referred to as kereta jalan terus (JT) or kereta logo. They would be resold at between 50 and 75 per cent below their market worth.

Sometimes, these vehicles are also known as kereta piang.


To be specific, kereta JT means repossessed vehicles sold in cash, kereta piang refers to cars sometimes sold in a "loan takeover" concept known as sambung bayar, and kereta logo stands for those with "protection" stickers under the watch of gangsters.


Checks revealed the presence of multiple groups on social media platforms, with some requiring private invitations from the account holders to join in.

Some of the groups were promoting repossessed vehicles, which included motorcycles and lorries, to buyers in Indonesia and Singapore.

Besides individuals who could not qualify or have been blacklisted from getting loans, these vehicles are also coveted by criminals and workshop owners, who would use them to commit crimes and cannibalise them for spare parts, respectively.

Our investigation also revealed the involvement of secret societies that provided "protection stickers" for these vehicles.

The stickers, costing between RM100 and RM2,000 per month depending on model, serve as a warning to legal repossessors to dissuade them from legally recovering these vehicles for banks.

Legal industry insiders alleged that some syndicates might even have the police on their payroll.

Legal vehicle repossessors whom NST Focus spoke to revealed that they had to cross state lines to file reports — an obligatory procedure whenever a vehicle is being repossessed — because some local police stations refused to accept their reports.

Besides stickers, syndicate members also offered buyers of these outstanding loan vehicles their services to legally transfer the vehicle registration for prolonged usage, or pay an extra fee to have their registration numbers "removed" from the repossessor's database.

However, checks revealed that there was no formal database for vehicle repossession, and most repossessors were relying on their own makeshift systems compiled from repossession orders issued by various banks.

This meant that a bank's repossession orders for specific vehicles could never be revoked, only temporarily "hidden" or "ignored" by the agents.

"This outstanding multi-purpose vehicle (a Toyota Alphard) is in Kuala Lumpur.

"If you want to use it outside of the city, it is best to close the data (hide the repossession instruction) or use a protection sticker. But it is hard to transfer the vehicle registration because we are unable to trace the owner. So it is better to close (hide) the repossession data (of the vehicle from the repossessors' database).

"The vehicle price is RM27,000. To hide the registration number from our (repossession) system costs RM2,000, so the total sale price is RM29,000," said a broker whom the reporters spoke to.

Other offers included a 2017 Honda BRV for RM23,000 (market value RM60,000), a Honda Jazz with two-digit registration numbers for RM20,500, a 2018 Vellfire Robot 2.5 for RM58,000 (market value RM200,000), and a 2018 Perodua Axia for RM7,000 (market value RM25,000).

Additionally, there is a 2020 Yamaha Y15 150cc motorcycle available for RM3,300 (market value RM7,000), a 2023 Honda Vario 160cc priced at RM4,800 (market value RM10,000), and a 2022 Yamaha LC135 135cc motorcycle for RM4,300 (market value RM7,000).

Only cash payments were accepted, given that the loans of these vehicles were in default.

When asked why some defaulters were willing to sell their vehicles and potentially face blacklisting by banks, the broker said many did so for the money.

"Instead of allowing the bank to auction off their vehicles, which they still have to service the remaining loan sum and continue to be in debt, they might as well sell them to us.

"At least they will get a few thousand ringgit," he said.

Under the Insolvency Act 1967 amended in 2020, loan defaulters could only be declared bankrupt if their outstanding debt reached RM100,000.

The NST learnt that in their attempt to avoid being blacklisted, many of these deadbeats would lodge reports, claiming that their vehicles had been stolen.

"The defaulters will give a time frame, maybe a month for the broker to 'settle' their cars before lodging a report.

"So normally, these defaulters will declare beforehand to the broker their intent to lodge a stolen vehicle report and claim insurance.

"That means the car would be blacklisted by the police and may only be used for spare parts," a source said.

Another broker whom NST reporters met referred to this type of vehicle as kereta claim.

"We no longer accept kereta claim because there is no point in buying it if we can't use it on the road," he said.



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post Sep 17 2023, 10:03 PM

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post Sep 17 2023, 10:07 PM

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The rise of the underground and shadow banking industry which takes over the legal finance industry?
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post Sep 17 2023, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Sep 17 2023, 10:07 PM)
The rise of the underground and shadow banking industry which takes over the legal finance industry?
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There's too many underground working inside finance industry selling data to 3rd party people.

Just an example a outsource banking agency will call you up Mr. XXX do you want to apply debt consolidation loan etc ... high approval rate .... and they charge u 10 - 30% consultation fee upon loan approval. ranting.gif

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post Sep 17 2023, 10:10 PM

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So how many missed bank payments do you need for these repoman to come pay you a visit?
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post Sep 17 2023, 10:11 PM

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First paragraph sudah macam celaka.

"SYNDICATES led by unscrupulous repossessors are exploiting bank records ..."

Eh, hello, when u sign a bank loan there is always a clause that mentions that in case of bad debt, the bank can sell your info to collectors. It is the bank that share such info, not "syndicates exploiting bank records".

As much as i am not a buddy to the bank, ppl must know that the bank is not your abang/adik/parents. U pinjam, u kena.
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post Sep 17 2023, 10:11 PM

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Not surprising at all. In the first place, why data of repossession is available to anyone & not just ppl who are responsible for doing the repossession?
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post Sep 17 2023, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(cubix @ Sep 17 2023, 10:10 PM)
So how many missed bank payments do you need for these repoman to come pay you a visit?
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post Sep 17 2023, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Sep 17 2023, 10:11 PM)
Not surprising at all. In the first place, why data of repossession is available to anyone & not just ppl who are responsible for doing the repossession?
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They have sharing database ... they work hard to earn commission icon_rolleyes.gif



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post Sep 17 2023, 10:15 PM

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Haiya when bank can't collect debt will pass to 3rd party mah, when 3rd party called you basically scared you have debt if not cleared ada peguam blah blah blah, when you don't listen at all mah pass to 4th party loh

If you visit one of those debt collector before you do know how they operate lah , but again ada hutang bayar jer lah why nak susah kan diri from so much hassle haiya .
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post Sep 17 2023, 10:25 PM

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Do Google search on debt recovery companies like Kudrat and Partners.

While we empthatize with defaulters, we need to adhere to rules and regulations.
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post Sep 17 2023, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Fresh bright @ Sep 17 2023, 10:25 PM)
Do Google search on debt recovery companies like Kudrat and Partners.

While we empthatize with defaulters,  we need to adhere to rules and regulations.
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Usually they will send debt recovery people to your house or working place if can't be found then go legal way ... but anyway some debt collector are not professional cool2.gif
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post Sep 17 2023, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(Raymond T. @ Sep 17 2023, 10:28 PM)
Usually they will send debt recovery people to your house or working place if can't be found then go legal way ... but anyway some debt collector are not professional  cool2.gif
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Ah, yes, this part, Malaysia needs more enforcement especially on the limit of a debt collector. I think SG got some good guidelines.
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post Sep 17 2023, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Fresh bright @ Sep 17 2023, 10:48 PM)
Ah, yes, this part, Malaysia needs more enforcement especially on the limit of a debt collector. I think SG got some good guidelines.
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Usually debt collector are all Secret society member and lack of enforcement ... anyway if one day Rakyat want to protest this withdrawal all fund from the bank ... the bank eventually gone bankrupt drool.gif

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post Sep 17 2023, 11:23 PM

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My neighbourhood got these rumah bujang that sometimes park their cars there for weeks or months. Heard from their housemates that they are hiding the car from repos.
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post Sep 17 2023, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(cubix @ Sep 17 2023, 10:10 PM)
So how many missed bank payments do you need for these repoman to come pay you a visit?
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2 Months and the banks starts preparing the RO. When RO is out, repossesors will be looking for your car.
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QUOTE(Raymond T. @ Sep 17 2023, 10:14 PM)
They have sharing database ... they work hard to earn commission  icon_rolleyes.gif


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Huh, still manually typing car plate number?
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post Sep 18 2023, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(delon85 @ Sep 17 2023, 11:29 PM)
Huh, still manually typing car plate number?
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you think they will invest those auto car plate reader ? cool2.gif
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QUOTE(Raymond T. @ Sep 17 2023, 10:10 PM)
There's too many underground working inside finance industry selling data to 3rd party people.

Just an example a outsource banking agency will call you up Mr. XXX do you want to apply debt consolidation loan etc ... high approval rate .... and they charge u 10 - 30% consultation fee upon loan approval.  ranting.gif
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I got one friend working there, he claimed he their company got network of banks to "loan" you money. We are legal business company.
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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Sep 18 2023, 01:04 AM)
I got one friend working there, he claimed he their company got network of banks to "loan" you money. We are legal business company.
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Usually these company boss are ex banker that's why got strong network with different bank ... they can build your profile , insider to approve your application and get commission rclxm9.gif
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Is TS the policeman nicole_4ever mention b4???
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boo hoo. its hard to feel sad for people who dont honor their financial term.
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QUOTE(letitsnow @ Sep 18 2023, 05:40 AM)
boo hoo. its hard to feel sad for people who dont honor their financial term.
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