Update:
Preliminary Report out: https://www.mot.gov.my/en/AAIB%20Statistic%...0Aug%202023.pdf
Final report will be out before Aug 2024
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Elmina Plane crash: Report siap …
Elmina Plane crash: Report siap …
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Update: Preliminary Report out: https://www.mot.gov.my/en/AAIB%20Statistic%...0Aug%202023.pdf Final report will be out before Aug 2024 This post has been edited by Lembu Goreng: Sep 15 2023, 10:41 AM 13th liked this post
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Sebenarnya macam ni. Dia terbang. Dia hilang kawalan..dia jatuh. Sekian report aku.
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kapal terbang tu jatuh disebabkan gravity 13th, forgotoldlogin, and 1 other liked this post
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plane kecik xbalance masa nak landing, passengers move one side nak tengok elmina residences ... crash
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Wonder if they will release the cockpit voice recorder Woop woop too low terrain pull up! Pull up! This post has been edited by Raddus: Sep 14 2023, 11:17 AM Gentleman_League liked this post
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Punca kerjadian ini mabok sekian terima kasih |
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QUOTE https://soyacincau.com/2023/06/15/malaysia-...minute-in-2022/ In 2022 alone, there were a total of 545,588 road accidents reported and a total of 6,080 deaths. That’s an average of 1,494 accidents per day or an accident every minute in Malaysia. When it comes to road fatalities, that’s 16.6 deaths per day or one death every 86 minutes. inb4 life is only precious when you killed by plane crashing on you, mabuk involved and when have chance to vroom, the rest is just a number. plane crashed, must continue reporting it, for few months. mabuk, yeahhhh lets put it headline, weeks of news coverage with constant update. one vroom accident killed another vroom, must viral in socmed with ugut ugut. other accident, krik krik krik |
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Kesalahan flight lane not well maintained la tu e-lite liked this post
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is it possible that it can be altered?
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Got taliban here, like this also wanna report my post.
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lambat...Kopitiam Transport Ministry already sloved it in 48 pages thread
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tomorrow, but why cant they summarize and publish on news now?
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QUOTE(cloudwan0 @ Sep 14 2023, 12:04 PM) today busy printing banner and backdrop for press release ucl_9339 liked this post
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Engine hit by bird, lost control and thus 💥 and nosedive crash 💥
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Plane hit lamp post.
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KUALA LUMPUR: Both pilots in the doomed Beechcraft Model 390 (Premier 1) which crashed in Bandar Elmina, Shah Alam last month, had no health issues, revealed the Elmina Aircrash Report released by the Transport Ministry today.
The report said while the pilot in command (PIC) and second in command (SIC) had succumbed to multiple injuries in the crash, but evidence indicated that both individuals did not suffer from cockpit incapacitation. "Hence, the hypothesis of medical causative and contributing factors to this accident may be discounted," the report said. On witness account, the PIC was reported to be well the night before the accident on Aug 17, and a witness also said the PIC had good rest before the flight departed from Langkawi. "Both the PIC and SIC held valid medical cetificates from the Federal Aviation Administration and the Civil Aviation Authority of Malaysia (CAAM)." |
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high level skill for announcement
now it is announcement of announcement of announcement |
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cockpit voice recorder no transcript?
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The important part is at page 25:- Note: Initial analysis of the recovered CVR recording has provided critical leads to uncovering the cause of the accident, with a focus on the aircraft flight control systems. Results from the pending inspection and examination of the related aircraft parts and components at the NTSB and OEM laboratories are necessary to provide collaborative and/or conclusive evidence in establishing the cause of the accident. This post has been edited by hafiziza: Sep 15 2023, 10:53 AM 13th, Supreme1394, and 3 others liked this post
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QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Sep 15 2023, 10:45 AM) Probably got, but the more important one is the Flight Data Recorder (FDR), which records what happened in those 2 minutes after clearance was given.Since the weather was good and no medical or health related issues, the focus would be on the plane itself. |
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 15 2023, 10:53 AM) Probably got, but the more important one is the Flight Data Recorder (FDR), which records what happened in those 2 minutes after clearance was given. This plane no FDR lahSince the weather was good and no medical or health related issues, the focus would be on the plane itself. |
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 15 2023, 11:53 AM) Probably got, but the more important one is the Flight Data Recorder (FDR), which records what happened in those 2 minutes after clearance was given. Page 8 of the report: There was no Flight Data Recorder (FDR) installed in the aircraft.Since the weather was good and no medical or health related issues, the focus would be on the plane itself. Page 12: Initial transcription of the CVR recording has been completed and analysis of the audio files is in progress at the time of issue of this Preliminary Report. Transcripts from the cockpit voice recording shall be included in the Final Report only when essential to the analyses and understanding of the accident. This post has been edited by hafiziza: Sep 15 2023, 10:57 AM |
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60 pages of preliminary report read.
It might take years to conclude... This post has been edited by haturaya: Sep 15 2023, 11:18 AM |
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who's bright idea is it to allow private jets to fly without black box?
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It's worthy to note both pilots have very little miles on this type of aircraft, total hours are good but in this craft very low.
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QUOTE(krishtiano86 @ Sep 15 2023, 11:28 AM) It's worthy to note both pilots have very little miles on this type of aircraft, total hours are good but in this craft very low. Yah, especially SIC - mere 3.15h krishtiano86 liked this post
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tu dia mai dah /k aircraft investigation experts
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So wait until 2024 only will know cause?
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QUOTE(hafiziza @ Sep 15 2023, 10:52 AM) The important part is at page 25:- Pakai barang tak ori?Note: Initial analysis of the recovered CVR recording has provided critical leads to uncovering the cause of the accident, with a focus on the aircraft flight control systems. Results from the pending inspection and examination of the related aircraft parts and components at the NTSB and OEM laboratories are necessary to provide collaborative and/or conclusive evidence in establishing the cause of the accident. |
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conclusion of the preliminary = wait for final report Supreme1394 liked this post
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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Sep 14 2023, 11:05 AM) Update: Kek betul, tittle --> report SiapPreliminary Report out: https://www.mot.gov.my/en/AAIB%20Statistic%...0Aug%202023.pdf Final report will be out before Aug 2024 Disclaimer --> akan dtg di 2024 |
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Any TLDR on what causing the accident to anyone who already read the report?
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QUOTE(rollinginsodeep @ Sep 15 2023, 12:22 PM) No cause in this report. Wait next year they will tell you. |
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QUOTE(rollinginsodeep @ Sep 15 2023, 12:22 PM) No need to read... Wait until AAIB publish final report rollinginsodeep liked this post
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QUOTE(rollinginsodeep @ Sep 15 2023, 12:22 PM) 3.1.1 The PIC was licensed and qualified for the flight in accordance with existing regulations. 3.1.2 The aircraft had a valid Certificate of Airworthiness and had been maintained in compliance with the regulations. 3.1.3 The incident happened in day time with reported clear visibility and fine meteorological conditions. 3.1.4 There was no evidence of incapacitation or physiological factors that affected the flight crew performance. 3.1.5 The accident was not survivable due to the magnitude of the deceleration force and the post-crash fire. 3.1.6 (Additional findings to be included in the Final Report.) 3.2 Causes/Contributing Factors To be included in the Final Report. * Note: Initial analysis of the recovered CVR recording has provided critical leads to uncovering the cause of the accident, with a focus on the aircraft flight control systems. Results from the pending inspection and examination of the related aircraft parts and components at the NTSB and OEM laboratories are necessary to provide collaborative and/or conclusive evidence in establishing the cause of the accident. |
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QUOTE(rollinginsodeep @ Sep 15 2023, 12:22 PM) Don't have. Just a report to make you pening kepala. rollinginsodeep liked this post
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 15 2023, 12:25 PM) 3.1.1 The PIC was licensed and qualified for the flight in accordance with Thanks so much for this. So no cause yet la. Need to wait for final reportexisting regulations. 3.1.2 The aircraft had a valid Certificate of Airworthiness and had been maintained in compliance with the regulations. 3.1.3 The incident happened in day time with reported clear visibility and fine meteorological conditions. 3.1.4 There was no evidence of incapacitation or physiological factors that affected the flight crew performance. 3.1.5 The accident was not survivable due to the magnitude of the deceleration force and the post-crash fire. 3.1.6 (Additional findings to be included in the Final Report.) 3.2 Causes/Contributing Factors To be included in the Final Report. * Note: Initial analysis of the recovered CVR recording has provided critical leads to uncovering the cause of the accident, with a focus on the aircraft flight control systems. Results from the pending inspection and examination of the related aircraft parts and components at the NTSB and OEM laboratories are necessary to provide collaborative and/or conclusive evidence in establishing the cause of the accident. |
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Let us listen to cockpit voice recording, says Elmina crash victim’s kin
PETALING JAYA: A family member of an Elmina crash victim has appealed to the transport ministry to allow family members to listen to the aircraft’s cockpit voice recording (CVR). https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...sh-victims-kin/ |
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From the wording, seems like some kind of aircraft failure. But have to be careful when releasing the final report. It will affect all similar aircraft around the world and manufacturer's reputation as well. So all covering asses with verification with manufacturer for confirmation. Ding dong ding dong. But looks like not pilot error.
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Jwpn pusing2. Mana voice recorder?
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wow the hours on type really low
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QUOTE(knumskul @ Sep 15 2023, 11:12 PM) Not necessarily. They might wanna rule out human negligence that cause control issues. No lah just kididingGood example, sort of, is Helios Flight 522 All aircraft parts installed must have the related certificate and fit for for release to service as per CAA Malaysia |
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You guys don't speculate. Just wait for the official report
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