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 [2023] iPhone 15/15 Plus Discussion, A total powerhouse.

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farkingdom
post Sep 15 2023, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Sep 14 2023, 07:29 PM)
If your current iPhone is either iPhone 14 or older, or iPhone 12 Pro or older? Then it's not a deal breaker, because your eyes are used to 60Hz on these iPhones already.

In fact, iPhone 15/15 Plus has the same high quality peak brightness and Dolby Vision display as iPhone 15 Pro, the only difference seems to be the soft-locked 120Hz only available on 15 Pro.

The iPhone 15/15 Plus this year also got the same 48MP sensor as last year iPhone 14 Pro series, in addition to 2x optical quality zoom, the first optical quality 2x on iPhone non-Pro series.

I basically see iPhone 15/15 Plus as a better 14 Pro (except for 120Hz) since Apple managed to add even a optical zoom to a dual camera setup (main sensor+ultrawide)

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Not really, spec wise 14 Pro and 15 Pro use the same camera
Main: 48MP, ƒ/1.78 aperture
Ultra Wide: 12MP, ƒ/2.2 aperture
Telephoto: 12MP, ƒ/2.8 aperture

while the 15 has a slightly different 48Mp camera with different aperture

Main: 48MP, ƒ/1.6 aperture
Ultra Wide: 12MP, ƒ/2.4 aperture

14 Pro still has the Always on display, 120Hz, longer rated battery life, Macro photography, night mode portrait,ProRaw, ProRes, LiDAR and etc

The only upside of 15 is probably the USB-C and software locked SmartHDR 5 and the new portrait feature.
farkingdom
post Sep 15 2023, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Sep 15 2023, 12:34 PM)
15 vs 14 Pro upgrade for 12 Pro users or older? I would recommend 15 lah because overtime 15 can last longer with USB-C port and because of USB-C port, resale value of iPhone 15 long term is also better than 14 Pro.

Can't deny that 14 Pro has the better camera hardware but 15 has the latest marginally better camera software than 14 Pro (and much better than iPhone 14), like the new Smart Portrait depth info feature whereby you can adjust focus after you take a shot (for situations where autofocus didn't work or you were in a rush and want to adjust focus later).

One example showcased was when user taking a photo of her and her dog with the food on the table, the camera may have accidentally focused on food and blurred the user and the dog, but with Smart Portrait, iPhone 15 can change the focus back to her and her dog when editing the photo later, because depth info of the photo was also saved at the same time.

Anyways, back to iPhone 14 Pro or iPhone 15, which to buy? For general users, iPhone 15 is really enough (assuming your previous iPhone was iPhone 12 Pro or older). Save that money for maybe AirPods Pro 2nd Gen with USB C.

And for camera geeks, skip iPhone 14 Pro entirely since iPhone 15 Pro has a lot of meaningful upgrades that are important long term like USB 3 USB C and the better camera hardware, ProRes, ProRaw and all those high storage camera capabilities.
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Each person has their own opinion then, to me if 14 Pro (heavily discounted right now) and 15 is about the same price at RM4.4k, then the 14 Pro is much more value for money and also same time superior even though it’s still on lightning port. All the other specs from: Always on display, 120Hz screen, better camera hardware are all quality day to day improvement.
Unless you absolutely want the USB-C and portrait of the 15 then go for the 15.

Apple still sell the 14, SE, normal AirPods 3/2, and several other items with lightning port, so it is not entirely dead yet. The whole iPhone user base right now is still lightning. And many general users don’t really care about the charging port, USB-C or lightning, as long it is small and provided in the box, and can charge their phone they are fine. In fact the USB-C transition is going to cost a lot confusion in existing iPhone user base who invested heavily in lightning. Like why their old cable suddenly cannot work etc. or why their husband/wife iPhone with lightning and yours is USB-C.

If they can top up to 5.5k for a 15 Pro then of course I’d recommend the 15 Pro cause it’s the latest and greatest. But for those budget conscious, the 14 Pro is still great.

This post has been edited by farkingdom: Sep 15 2023, 04:21 PM
farkingdom
post Sep 20 2023, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 20 2023, 08:52 AM)
That’s a very good point. By December 2024, Apple can no longer sell any device with lightning in the EU, which means the 15 series might be the default entry level iPhones or Apple will be forced to put USB-C into their older phones like the 14 to comply with this rule. It’s also likely they’ll introduce a SE3 with USB-C in March next year…
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Don’t think they ever updated older models internally, except to update the box to remove charger and earphone for older iPhones like the 11 during the release of iPhone12. That to help save them $$$ and pretend it’s for the environment, I just don’t buy into their whole green and environmental initiative.

Most probably Apple will just not sell the 14 in the EU next year, since it’s just one region, and only sell the base 15 as entry model. While they can continue selling it to the rest of the world. If they were to update the 14 to USB-C, felt like they should have done it earlier along with the release of the 15.
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post Sep 20 2023, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 20 2023, 09:17 AM)
Yeah, but they did just quietly sneaked in the USB C port into the AirPods Pro 2 though… but I suppose that is easier than retrofitting it into an iPhone. Let’s see… either way, it’s exciting smile.gif
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I did get the lightning AirPods Pro 2 earlier this year, so was kinda bumped when I heard that the AirPods Pro 2 USB-C is getting lossless for vision pro when the hardware is exactly the same. Not that I’m gonna pick up the vision pro hahaha. And why vision pro only.. but then vision pro not out yet so maybe Apple may reverse their decision next year.

Hardware wise between lightning n usb-c is they only added dust proof certification to the usb-c charging case while the rest of the hardware and chip is the same.

Down the line don’t think anyone can pick up the lightning version anymore, since Apple don’t sell that anymore. The AirPods Pro 2 with lightning gonna be rare. Maybe Apple will start selling the USB-C charging case only few months later like what they did with the MagSafe charging case
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post Sep 20 2023, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 20 2023, 09:47 AM)
Hehe, my AirPods Pro 1 still going strong… was hoping Apple would release a black one so I’d have an excuse to change but they didn’t so I’m happy to hold on to mine biggrin.gif
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The Pro 2 with ios17 software is fantastic though hehe poison you. Overall sound quality and with this new update makes this Pro 2 even better.
You could buy a black case and it would be black.

 

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