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limeuu
post Feb 24 2024, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Feb 24 2024, 08:32 AM)
Bro, those are depressing stats for Malaysians! 2% from Rest of the World corralled for vetting vs 74% flagged from Malaysia...

WTF did we do to piss them off so much!?
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60k visa overstayers in 2019 statistics.

Covid delayed the response. When they reopened in 2022, the policy to vet Malaysians kicked in. Because of shortage of humans processing this, the turnaround time balloon to 6-7 weeks. Many were caught out, missing important events like children's graduation (a colleague), weddings, birthdays etc.

The backlog is now cleared and you can get an answer as fast as 1 working day now

Worst case scenario, they will remove Malaysia from ETA, and we join the Indonesians and Indians applying for the 600 with AUD190. Plus medical examination for those over 60.

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 24 2024, 09:06 AM
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post Feb 25 2024, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(PeinEVO @ Feb 23 2024, 08:41 PM)
just wondering , do your documents you certify with commissioner of oath? sebab im applying 2nd time need to know whether if i do this will my chance improve or not ..
just wondering , do your documents you certify with commissioner of oath? sebab im applying 2nd time need to know whether if i do this will my chance improve or not ..
haha no problem.. pray for my family approval is good enough already...
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No, I didn't do that, just furnished all the document I have.
Do the immigration dept specifically request any additional doc on their reply?
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post Feb 25 2024, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 24 2024, 08:50 AM)
60k visa overstayers in 2019 statistics.

Covid delayed the response. When they reopened in 2022, the policy to vet Malaysians kicked in. Because of shortage of humans processing this, the turnaround time balloon to 6-7 weeks. Many were caught out, missing important events like children's graduation (a colleague), weddings, birthdays etc.

The backlog is now cleared and you can get an answer as fast as 1 working day now

Worst case scenario, they will remove Malaysia from ETA, and we join the Indonesians and Indians applying for the 600 with AUD190. Plus medical examination for those over 60.
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Oh dear. Was there ever a recent precedent where a country lost its visa free status? Or will Malaysia again make the news for being the first of an unwanted achievement?
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post Feb 25 2024, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Feb 25 2024, 08:08 AM)
Oh dear. Was there ever a recent precedent where a country lost its visa free status? Or will Malaysia again make the news for being the first of an unwanted achievement?
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Will be a first.
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post Feb 25 2024, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Feb 24 2024, 08:32 AM)
Bro, those are depressing stats for Malaysians! 2% from Rest of the World corralled for vetting vs 74% flagged from Malaysia...

WTF did we do to piss them off so much!?
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http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinosrch...iew=date-latest

Go and look at the number of Malaysian's applying for 'asylum' in Australia and clogging up the system.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/.../2023/4584.html
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/.../2023/4512.html
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/...A/2023/4059.htm
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/.../2023/4563.html
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/.../2023/4573.html
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/.../2023/2350.html
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/...2023/2431.html: This one was hilarious:
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There were no issues preventing clear communication through the interpreter, notwithstanding that, at one stage, there was a need for the interpreter to let a vocally assertive cat out of the room in which he was interpreting. This did not in any way compromise the hearing. I invited the interpreter to let the cat return if, say, she started meowing from the other side of his door, which I anticipated she might do imminently, but no such occasion arose.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/.../2023/1509.html
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/.../2022/4702.html
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/.../2022/5080.html
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/.../2022/4703.html
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/.../2022/4872.html
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/.../2022/4574.html
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/.../2022/5275.html

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/...2022/4188.html: Just because you're a ethnic Chinese professing the Christian faith doesn't mean you qualify for asylum lah.

It is clearly a syndicate doing this. 99% of these people have no ability to even understand what they're doing/in front of a Tribunal, but Rule of Law due process still needs to be followed.

Some of the poeple don't even turn up to their immigration hearing. Once their asylum claim is rejected they file a appeal, knowing it can take _years_ to be heard. So with this additional time bought, they work, earn AUD, save up money, and then leave Australia back to Malaysia based on immigration records.

Honestly, spend a few hours reading AATA judgements involving refuee claims from Malaysia passport holders, and you'd understand why.
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post Feb 27 2024, 06:00 AM

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QUOTE(haya @ Feb 25 2024, 10:02 AM)


http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinosrch...iew=date-latest

Go and look at the number of Malaysian's applying for 'asylum' in Australia and clogging up the system.
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It is clearly a syndicate doing this. 99% of these people have no ability to even understand what they're doing/in front of a Tribunal, but Rule of Law due process still needs to be followed.

Some of the poeple don't even turn up to their immigration hearing. Once their asylum claim is rejected they file a appeal, knowing it can take _years_ to be heard. So with this additional time bought, they work, earn AUD, save up money, and then leave Australia back to Malaysia based on immigration records.

Honestly, spend a few hours reading AATA judgements involving refuee claims from Malaysia passport holders, and you'd understand why.
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Yes. And some famous asylum seekers include C4 handler Sirul... doh.gif
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post Feb 27 2024, 08:44 AM

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hello just wondering if anyone faced a similar problem to this? I already email to the ETA team though meanwhile i just want to get some opinions.

In the midst of my 2nd ETA application for me and my family.

Was rejected for whole of family on 21st february . .wanted to apply again today.. but only my wife is eligible, mine and 2 kids is not eligible..

But all 4 of us was rejected on 21st february due to same reason. Is there any reasons for this?

or just some system screw up?
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post Feb 27 2024, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Feb 25 2024, 08:08 AM)
Oh dear. Was there ever a recent precedent where a country lost its visa free status? Or will Malaysia again make the news for being the first of an unwanted achievement?
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I recall many many years ago, malaysia was at the risk of losing the visa free status for UK.
But the malaysian government back then managed to salvage it after some back and forth diplomacy.
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post Feb 27 2024, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(sawannaibaan @ Feb 27 2024, 09:28 AM)
I recall many many years ago, malaysia was at the risk of losing the visa free status for UK.
But the malaysian government back then managed to salvage it after some back and forth diplomacy.
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Yes, for the same reason. However it corrected itself when it became less attractive to jump plane to UK, and the attention shifted to Australia.

SK is hot at the moment.

Very fortunate that despite such bad track records, no demotion occured.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 24 2024, 07:33 AM)
From experiences here, it appears a significant portion of applications still get blocked for more information. In 2022, it was 74% (actual data from a freedom of information request).

I got my visa in 2 minutes when I applied in January. The lucky quarter.

The worldwide average is just about 2%. The red dot included.

Perhaps think like them...pretend you are the immigration officer looking at your application. Do you think based on the documents, this guy will jump plane? What other evidences would you want?
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can you share the foi data with us?
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post Feb 27 2024, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(PeinEVO @ Feb 27 2024, 08:44 AM)
hello just wondering if anyone faced a similar problem to this? I already email to the ETA team though meanwhile i just want to get some opinions.

In the midst of my 2nd ETA application for me and my  family.

Was rejected for whole of family on 21st february . .wanted to apply again today.. but only my wife is eligible, mine and 2 kids is not eligible..

But all 4 of us was rejected on 21st february due to same reason. Is there any reasons for this?

or just some system screw up?
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Very strange if you are travelling as a family. I mean you are a real tourist, with kids going for a holiday.
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post Feb 27 2024, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(nauticat99 @ Feb 27 2024, 06:32 PM)
Very strange if you are travelling as a family. I mean you are a real tourist, with kids going for a holiday.
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Yes. No rhyme or reason … I would imagine if the application is made as a family unit, with children some more…. Entahlah
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QUOTE(nauticat99 @ Feb 27 2024, 06:32 PM)
Very strange if you are travelling as a family. I mean you are a real tourist, with kids going for a holiday.
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If you have read the links given above about cases of asylum seekers, there are examples of whole families with young children seeking asylum.

So travelling with children is NOT an indication you will not jump plane.
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QUOTE(PeinEVO @ Feb 27 2024, 08:44 AM)
hello just wondering if anyone faced a similar problem to this? I already email to the ETA team though meanwhile i just want to get some opinions.

In the midst of my 2nd ETA application for me and my  family.

Was rejected for whole of family on 21st february . .wanted to apply again today.. but only my wife is eligible, mine and 2 kids is not eligible..

But all 4 of us was rejected on 21st february due to same reason. Is there any reasons for this?

or just some system screw up?
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Make sure your documents are good. It's hard for them to reject if your documents are beautifully prepared

Have you jumped plane to Australia before

Have you been refused into any countries before


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post Feb 28 2024, 05:48 AM

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QUOTE(nauticat99 @ Feb 27 2024, 06:32 PM)
Very strange if you are travelling as a family. I mean you are a real tourist, with kids going for a holiday.
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eh sorry should have clarified further.. my whole family got rejected during the 1st eta application.. but when want to apply 2nd time, only my wife's application that is able to proceed with payment.. mine and the two kids tak dapat.

QUOTE(hksgmy @ Feb 27 2024, 08:56 PM)
Yes. No rhyme or reason … I would imagine if the application is made as a family unit, with children some more…. Entahlah
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eh sorry should have clarified further.. my whole family got rejected during the 1st eta application.. but when want to apply 2nd time, only my wife's application that is able to proceed with payment.. mine and the two kids tak dapat.

QUOTE(gashout @ Feb 28 2024, 03:50 AM)
Make sure your documents are good. It's hard for them to reject if your documents are beautifully prepared

Have you jumped plane to Australia before

Have you been refused into any countries before
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i have went to australia before, never abused the ETA before.. although that time i went with my parents, this time im going with my own family.

never been refused into any countries before so far.. hopefully doesn't start now sweat.gif
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post Feb 28 2024, 06:07 AM

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As far as I can tell, it's a random pick. Over the last 3 years, 2 ETA application no problem, issue v quickly on d spot. I've had friends kena, ticket cancel la, ask High Comm for help la etc. Then this year I kena check. Sent them docs.

They dont have SLA but the general guide is:
25% response within 1 week
50% within 2 weeks
75% ETA submitted will processed within 3 weeks

Mine was within 3 weeks

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QUOTE(PeinEVO @ Feb 27 2024, 08:44 AM)
hello just wondering if anyone faced a similar problem to this? I already email to the ETA team though meanwhile i just want to get some opinions.

In the midst of my 2nd ETA application for me and my  family.

Was rejected for whole of family on 21st february . .wanted to apply again today.. but only my wife is eligible, mine and 2 kids is not eligible..

But all 4 of us was rejected on 21st february due to same reason. Is there any reasons for this?

or just some system screw up?
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When you say rejected, it is really rejected or it is just in a "cannot be finalized" status where more information is required?

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Feb 28 2024, 08:32 AM)
When you say rejected, it is really rejected or it is just in a "cannot be finalized" status where more information is required?
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1st was rejected. My fault also i think didnt provide my employment letter at that time

Now trying to apply 2nd time
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QUOTE(PeinEVO @ Feb 28 2024, 09:20 AM)
1st was rejected. My fault also i think didnt provide my employment letter at that time

Now trying to apply 2nd time
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I guess with the Australian immigration, really have to give all possible information (esp those financial related) that you have to prove that you will be coming back. Makes life easier for them and for yourself as well

Some that I can think of:
Employment letter, leave application letter
Recent payslips (3 months)
Bank statement (with sufficient funds)
EPF Statement (plus any other significant investment statement)
LHDN EA form
Housing loan / geran with your name on it
Children school enrollment letter

If you're self employed, company SSM registration, form 49, company bank statement are useful as well

Every bits of information helps for them to determine if you're a genuine tourist


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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Feb 28 2024, 09:42 AM)
I guess with the Australian immigration, really have to give all possible information (esp those financial related) that you have to prove that you will be coming back. Makes life easier for them and for yourself as well

Some that I can think of:
Employment letter, leave application letter
Recent payslips (3 months)
Bank statement (with sufficient funds)
EPF Statement (plus any other significant investment statement)
LHDN EA form
Housing loan / geran with your name on it
Children school enrollment letter

If you're self employed, company SSM registration, form 49, company bank statement are useful as well

Every bits of information helps for them to determine if you're a genuine tourist
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betul2.. that is why i want to apply 2nd application and giving letter of employment .. this is one of the missing documents yang i didnt gave before.. cuma now i want to apply the ETA in the app again only my wife yang can proceed with payment, myself and 2 kids they say not eligible to proceed with payment..

IDK whether its because server maintenance or due to rejected status or what..

if rejected status then my wife pon rejected ma.. so pelik rclxub.gif

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