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post Aug 26 2023, 02:00 PM

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Good more 5G providers come out with fixed line SIM only plans will shake up the fibre fixed line providers.
Working classes will find them more useful and cost effective than continue paying RM105 for a slow outdated 30M plan such as Maxis.

RM58/68 for a line in excess of 500M-1Gbps, if you're bachelor at work who only spends time at home on weekends/public holidays fixed line broadband plans are waste of money.

If those fixed fibre provider ISPS still think they are in honeymoon, if nothing is done soon many will be leaving fibre broadband soon. Just like in many countries such as Japan, Korea and US.

5G seems to be more popular nowadays than fibre broadband. So much faster to setup, no contract if bring in own equipment and more mobility.

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post Aug 26 2023, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(tiadanama @ Aug 26 2023, 04:47 PM)
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Using their 5G modem in downtown KL Jalan Ampang.
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Could be better if use Snapdragon/Mediatek chipset based modems.

Avoid those unheard and less popular ones such as Unisoc.
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post Aug 26 2023, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 26 2023, 09:28 PM)
I have both U & Y simcards in the same phone.

Both 5G signal full bar when idle. But Y has a higher tendency of switching to 4G when data is running.

However even when the sign is 4G, the download speed is still 20mb/s (that's over 150Mbps). So I'm also not sure whether it's 4G or 5G that's runnning.
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RM68 is still way cheaper than the miserable 30M Fibre broadband which I'm paying now for RM99 with 6% tax = RM105 a month for the past 5 years+


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post Aug 31 2023, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(HolySatan @ Aug 30 2023, 08:16 AM)
4G 150gb only
5G unlimited

u home : 4G & 5G 1tb
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Does it mean if I continue subscribing to home fixed fibre 30M every month paying faithfully but only utilizing <100GB a month a waste of money? laugh.gif

Only use it mostly on weekends and just a few hours at night after returning form work to surf news, download a few gigs occasionally and watch tv box? laugh.gif
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post Aug 31 2023, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(LuckyBai @ Aug 31 2023, 05:30 PM)
You trust Yes based on their very bad track record ???
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Bad experience with them. Dishonest with their throttling method last time. Use their 100GB 4G Postpaid plan which didn't mentioned can be utilized on any device place it in a modem. At first works like charm using it in USB modem. Then few months later found why my usual speeds 20-30Mbps why suddenly only 1Mbps?

Call them up the idiot operator says my device is not in their supported equipment list and they've upgraded to the new 5G network.
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post Sep 17 2023, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(bc_1912 @ Sep 2 2023, 03:49 PM)
Did yes use unisoc?
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From their modem firmware model:

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Seems the oem modem is supplied by Quectel 50Q Series which is a partner of Qualcomm.

https://www.quectel.com/product/5g-rm50xq-series

But it's old series already at least 2 years behind.

Latest news from Quectel they just launched their latest SOC Feb this year employing Qualcomm's Snapdragon X75/72 modem inside.

Quectel announces 2nd gen of 5G NR modules
https://www.quectel.com/news-and-pr/5g-rele...rg650v-fwa-embb

Back in 2021, they launched a earlier version with Snapdragon X65/62

A year earlier with SD X55..

Most modems out there currently is at 2-3 generations behind using the old Snapdragon X55 chipsets. Now the very latest is the Snapdragon X70 Series 5G-Advanced with AI enabled processor.

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post Nov 19 2023, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(endG @ Nov 19 2023, 10:03 AM)
i also faced similar issue with Yes5G:
cant connect to office vpn, connection to outlook mailbox server always dropping (happen to few laptop with diff outlook account), lazada free rice game cannot load, do speedtest always less than 5mbps in upload speed.

got a UHome 5G sim and voila all issue gone .. speed and latency all similar to fiber.

using the same NR5103E router for both sim above.
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I let you do this test and find out yourself.

YES 5G does allow torrent if you do it nekkid without VPN and speedtests shows full speed if you do them with local servers. It gives a temporary boost for few seconds to allow you to show off and advertise for them the speeds you can get.

Now here's the test to reveal the real dirty trick they silently imposed:

Connect to a overseas VPN/VPS and do the same test across the globe see if you're throttled a not. My results show that you get ADSL speeds with just around 8Mbps at most or worst. Torrents become worst when you turn on your VPN.

U Mobile does the OPPOSITE. Without VPN you can't torrent, but with VPN your speeds and routing gets optimized to the best potential.

I tell you this company cannot be trusted. They always secretly modify their FUP with every possible means to give you less. Got trapped many times before with their previous 100GB 4G Postpaid plans which allowed use in modems but later say your device not in their compatible list of limited devices.

Meaning to say this:

1) Their 5G plan is just for speedtest showoffs and indirect marketing for their company

2) You can torrent with caution for legal files such as linux ISOs and official apps with full speed but beware of being exposed. But once you turn your VPN on, the throttling kicks in and your use will be limited.

3) All connections outside Malaysia are heavily throttled to ADSL speeds around 8Mbps or less with VERY HIGH latency. It's their way of being stingy.
It could be port based though they don't block it to give you fake sense that they don't do speed throttling.

4) Latency is very bad compared to their direct competitor U at LEAST double most times with international servers. It gives indication that their servers can't handle large capacity traffic and their unwillingness to invest more in core network routing equipments.

5) Their 4G network with quota allowance doesn't have this port throttling limitation. You can get full speed with international servers and VPNs because its quota based.

EDIT with additional comments:

My speedtest results without VPN is consistently >500Mbps day long.

When connected to the best VPNs/VPS with 10Gbps servers even closeby countries such as SG, my speedtests dropped to 5 Mbps or less and torrents not moving only getting ard 0.5MB/s.

Something is wrong? Without VPN torrents can reach >30MB/s shakehead.gif

Obviously they are implementing port throttling to international servers and only allow fake speedtests.

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post Nov 19 2023, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Nov 19 2023, 06:17 PM)
I beg to diff... It really give what they provide.. Speed test 2xx to 3xx mbps.. Then I download using steam keep 3x to 4x mb downloading each sec.. Similar like speed test
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Your Steam downloads goes through VPN or RAW without?
If without VPN then everything is fine with popular sites even torrents reaches full speed.

The problem starts when you start connecting to VPN, speed to Europe and USon average only like 5-8Mbps, pings can go as high as over 300ms.

YES seems to be implementing anti VPN policy which is not good. Users need to connect to their company VPN to work remotely.
Speedtests don't say it's fake. You can give a few second temporary boost say for 60 secs for the speedtest then start throttling users to prevent them from heavy downloading.

I know because on fibre totally no such restrictions or throttling.
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post Nov 30 2023, 10:08 PM

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Yes 5G latency truly sucks.

Even to their own in house local server in KL average over 25ms.
Telco U can get below 15ms closer to 10ms.

International connectivity feels like heavily throttled. Can only get around 100Mbps but local speedtest can get full speed.
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post Nov 30 2023, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Nov 30 2023, 10:35 PM)
I agree. I can get 9ms latency on U.
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During peak hours even worst can go above 30ms, this is from within Klang Valley.
Yes as a small time ISP has very little uplink capacity, It relies heavily on its major uplink provider, TIME dCom for most of its international connectivity.

High latency is mostly due to overcongestion at its core switching server/concentrators. They probably have very little budget to upgrade their network capacity.
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post Dec 1 2023, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(iiee @ Dec 1 2023, 10:43 AM)
At my place Yes is fluctuating between 20-90ms.  U is stable 20-30, digi also same stable. 

This has something to do with the modem/router using also.  different modem diff ping result with exactly same simcard at exactly same spot.
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Nothing to do with modem/router, as some of us have already tested both Yes and telco U 5G plans using the same modems and placed at the same position during test conduct.

The enviroment and test setup remains the same.

Both receiving from the same DNB base station because 5G infra in Malaysia has only 1 wholesale provider.

Why is Yes's pings and uploads inferior? The only thing that sets them apart is their CORE SWITCHING network equipments, servers and uplinks.

Telco U's partner is China's ZTE, not sure what YES uses but they tend to be more Western inclined.
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post Dec 8 2023, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Left4Dead2 @ Dec 4 2023, 10:12 PM)
I'm on my first month with YES 5G, latency is high but speed is ok

How to terminate since no contract ? Need go Yes shop ?
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Not just latency is high, downtime also extremely high.

Last week alone already down 3 times in a week. Each time down lasted around 4 hours more on average.

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post Dec 8 2023, 07:22 PM

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I can't download the .NET runtime from Microsoft website. Need to turn on VPN only can access it.


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post Feb 21 2024, 12:24 AM

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Yes just introduced a newer and improved model of their 5G modem known as the Yes 5G Infinite Gateway Pro

The features of this modem having the same default web management IP, a Snapdragon based chipset, 2X 2.5G Ethernet port and same coloring signal quality bar (except reposition to front of modem instead on top) hints that it's a brand Z model under the cover.

Do we know of any other brands or model with the features above?

https://www.yes.my/yes5gwirelessbroadband/

EDIT: It's an Oppo 5G T1 CPE with SD X55 chipset used by Three HK?

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post Feb 23 2024, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Feb 23 2024, 05:43 PM)
Wrong. Seems to be Yeacomm, by the looks of the lights design.
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Yeacomm is Mediatek based not Snapdragon. It only has 1x2.5G port+1x1G port this one has 2X 2.5G Ethernet port.

There are very few SDX55 based model I'm aware in the market which have 2x2.5G Ethernet port except for the Zyxel.

Also it is among the most expensive 5G modem in the market. The Zyxel NR5101 for example is selling for US$1299 now.
https://www.4gltemall.com/5g/5g-cpe/zyxel-5g-router.html

This one looks almost identical to the Zyxel NR5307 with the number of LEDs and position of the WPS button but without WiFi7 probably customized by the OEM manufacturer directly.
https://www.4gltemall.com/zyxel-nr5307.html

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post Feb 23 2024, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Feb 23 2024, 08:33 PM)
I told you lo is Yeacomm the light design is exactly the same.
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The casing mould probably came from the same OEM manufacturer but chipset and features not the same.

Look at the Yeacomm models:

https://yifanwireless.com/5g-cpe-router/

None of them have dual 2.5G Ethernet ports

EDIT: You may be right. Even the SIM also uses nano SIM same as the Yeacomm.

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post Feb 28 2024, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(jackiez @ Feb 28 2024, 07:54 AM)
talking about zyxel, i just saw this post in the yes 5g group about nr5103e unit, not sure if this is true or if someone is spreading false info

as stated in dnb faq, dnb doesnt certify nor approve 5g device, device certification is led by SIRIM - with guidance from the MCMC

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True, they've already been banned by telcos for their mobile plans meant for phones.

Actually, the ban already imposed quite some time since you cannot use prepaid/postpaid mobile plans such as Yes Power 35 and Telco U mobile plans on them.
Try placing a Yes prepaid/postpaid mobile plan SIM(not the broadband SIM) into these modems, they won't boot up or connect with no signal.
Only their data only broadband plans can be used because the telco allows buy your own(BYO) modem plans with no contracts.

Zyxel is very popular brand in Europe due to their anti-China policies. It is among the popular benchmark models used by Ericsson which is DNB's vendor.

The screenshot you posted is from non official Yes channel. Also there're 2 models out there one being the 3 Three model mostly already sold out everywhere and the restricted EE model which don't allow lockband function. Their IMEI cannot be changed and ISPs view them as safe models that cannot bypass mobile plans meant for phones. The EE model is useless because of its firmware limitations, and the official Zyxel branded ones expect to pay close to US$500 a new unit.

If you mentioned about blocking, those models with QWRT(China modded OpenWRT) out there will be the ones to be blocked first high on their lists. They allow illegal IMEI modifications and bypass of mobile plans without hotspot quotas.

Many of those modded brands out there claimed to be OpenWRT based are actually China modded QWRT based not the official channel. No one actually knows they have hidden backdoors in them and usually the tactics used by China modem suppliers is that they won't upgrade their QRT firmwares frequently for specific models to push newer models with newer versions of the firmware so you will have to keep buying from them.
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post Feb 28 2024, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(jackiez @ Feb 28 2024, 02:27 PM)
detailed and well informed explanation from you as always man, u must be an expert in this field

yes the screenshot is from one of the unofficial yes 5g fb group posted by a random anonymous user which caught my attention

btw given tht ISP view Three & EE model as safe models as their imei cannot be changed, i wonder whether these models might still face the risk of being banned outright even if used with a broadband plan (if mcmc were to decide so), this is particularly concerning

considering these models has no SIRIM and seems to be out of spec as what JLA claims
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Might as well ban all those unknown China brands and OEM ones out there including imported phones with universal band features..

Popular branded modems such as Arcadyan, Netgear, Nokia, Sagemcom, Sercomm , Zyxel are all fully compliant with ITU and British/EU standards. Those models undergo strict rigorous user acceptance tests (UATs) with many major telcos such as 3 UK/IE, EE, Vodafone, O2, Deutsche Telecom, Tele2, Telstra to get qualified.

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Should it fail 3rd world Malaysian standards and quality? laugh.gif

I disable its WiFi in the modem and put it in IP Pass-through mode for my home router to take over.

Anyways the 3 UK model already sold out almost everywhere only left the EE models which you shouldn't be buying because they have no lock band feature and can be defective when auto connecting.

Correction:
Three UK has already replaced it with a newer Zyxel model NR5103Ev2 which is cheaper built for cost cutting. It comes only with 2x1G ports and 2xTS9 antenna ports but with still the same Mediatek T750 modem chipset in it.

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https://devicesupport.three.co.uk/guides/de.../NR5103Ev25GHub

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post Feb 29 2024, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Feb 23 2024, 08:33 PM)
I told you lo is Yeacomm the light design is exactly the same.
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Shenzhen Tozed Technologies Company Ltd
http://www.sztozed.com/en/channels/104.html

They are an OEM supplier for brands such as Yeacomm, ZLT and many other telco companies out there.

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Airtel India also using the same model if not mistaken. Shopee online has this model for sale already.

Airtel X25 Pro 5G Portable WiFi6 Modem



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It's Unisoc IVY510 based




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post Feb 29 2024, 11:17 AM

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Also would like to clarify that the 3 Three and EE UK Zyxel NR5103E modems are actually Mediatek T750 based not Snapdragon X55 based as many had claimed by online sellers.

Among the other models which uses this Mediatek T750 chipset are:
Yeacomm NR330 5G Modem AX3600 WiFi-6 Router
Arcadyan Meteor aka Telstra 5G Internet Modem 2 (Gen 2)

The Snapdragon X55 chipset based modems are:
Telstra AW1000 5G Home Modem (Gen 1)
TP-Link Deco X50-5G 5G AX3000 Whole Home Mesh WiFi 6 Gateway
Zyxel NR5101 5G NR Indoor Modem

The Mediatek T750(Sept 2020) is a newer chipset compared to the Snapdragon X55(Feb2019) by one year.
It has supports CA across wider 5G NR bands compared to the older Snapdragon X55

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