Recon market doesn’t work that way. Used, Toyota’s don’t depreciate that much relative to others like BMW.

For your purpose the alphard is a good choice. Auto sliding doors for the win. Accessibility to third row without sliding doors is just retarded.

I owned a Vellfire ZG. When my friend wanted to buy MPV I suggested him the Kia Carnival, and I went test drive with him.

When I drove it and his wife and him sat behind, I drive smooth and slow like a driver would, and they were getting dizzy. I however, felt okay but it was definitely not as plush as the Vellfire ZG in the drivers seat. Did not feel lacking in power. But simply not as comfortable. When he drove and I sat behind, I felt the same, when cornering it simply felt dizzy for me, I assume it is because it is not plush enough. It was not jarring but just not comfortable. You should go try and if you and your family feel it’s ok, then great.

My friend tested the Serena, he said it felt like a tin kosong, Myvi feeling. End up he bought the Alphard, cause he preferred its mature look vs the Vellfire sporty look.

On paper, the Kia Carnival looks good, in practice I will choose a Vellfire/Alphard every single time. The 2.5L coupled with the CVT is not powerful, but it can cruise highway smoothly. More importantly, comfort above all. With that van, I don’t care about power, just chill only. Fetching family how fast you want to go?

Oh ya I still think Toyota is boring uncle brand, with the exception of the GRs and the Z4upra.