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post Aug 8 2023, 07:20 AM, updated 3y ago

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Three families disown sons with gambling addictions
By CHARLES RAMENDRAN
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Monday, 07 Aug 2023
7:02 PM MYT

KUALA LUMPUR: After constantly being harassed and humiliated by loan sharks or Ah Long, three families have made the extreme decision of disowning their children who took the loans and defaulted on payments.

A 50-year-old businesswoman, who only wanted to be known as Kong from Ayer Tawar, Perak said her 23-year-old son had taken loans amounting to hundreds of thousands and lost it all to online gambling.

She said that she settled her son's debts of RM500,000 in May 2022 and advised him to repent and seek employment in Singapore.

In June this year, Kong began receiving threats from loan sharks before her house and that of her in-laws were splashed with red paint two weeks ago. The loan sharks also threatened to burn down their houses.

Kong gave in to the loan shark's demands and paid over RM21,000 but they demanded another RM5,000, claiming the payment was late by 10 minutes.

When she refused, her shop was splashed with red paint two days later.

In another case in Johor Baru, the family of a 48-year-old housewife, who did not want to be named, suffered similar harassment from loan sharks when her 21-year-old son borrowed money, also to lose it gambling online.

Beautician Rico Loh, 27, said her brother often borrowed money from family members and took loans from about 20 Ah Long.

She said her family paid RM150,000 to settle debts with loan sharks but just days later, her brother took another loan for RM70,000 from the Ah Long.

In a third case, a 71-year-old retiree who only wanted to be known as Lee said he had to give up his Employees Provident Fund (EPF) savings to settle RM500,000 in loans his 37-year-old son took from almost 50 loan sharks since 2019, also to feed a gambling addiction.

All three families turned up at the MCA Public Services and Complaints Department at Wisma MCA here on Monday (Aug 7) making the announcement to disown their sons.

The department's head Datuk Seri Michael Chong said the affected families were left with no other choices but to disown their sons due to the constant harassment from Ah Longs.

"These are not just loan sharks but extortionists. They lure people into taking loans by advertising in social media platforms and only give out a fraction of the amount sought.

"Later, they demand the full sum and resort to violence for repayment. The thugs are runners who are paid RM400 for each job they carry out." he said.

Chong said his department has handled about 199 such cases, involving a total loan amount of RM18.7mil, this year.

He said 53 of those involved were women and 80% of the borrowers are Chinese.

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...ling-addictions
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In a third case, a 71-year-old retiree who only wanted to be known as Lee said he had to give up his Employees Provident Fund (EPF) savings to settle RM500,000 in loans his 37-year-old son took from almost 50 loan sharks since 2019, also to feed a gambling addiction.


Gov said 240k EPF for retirement enough lel, not yet account for charsiew children
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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Aug 8 2023, 07:23 AM)
Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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mental illness

What mental illness is associated with gambling?
Mental health issues.

People who gamble compulsively often have substance misuse problems, personality disorders, depression or anxiety. Compulsive gambling may also be associated with bipolar disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) or attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditi...es/syc-20355178
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worst char siew outcome of all....
they dont just destroy thier own life but drag and sometimes clean up parent coffin money........

some chinese say children r here to collect pass life debt from U

its hard to bring them back to normal salary life,

in my 40 years life,what i have learn is

gambling is the 1st habit to stop n learn from it b4 its too late

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post Aug 8 2023, 07:35 AM

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Chared char siew.
Go self expire yourself alone, don't bring the whole family down with you, asshole

Exactly the saying, gambling addiction is one of the worst 5 vices

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I suddenly have a craving for charsiews...
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send this to whoever u know that has gambling problem
if they don't get it and come around, they deserve to be disowned


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QUOTE(haya @ Aug 8 2023, 07:25 AM)
Careful for what you wish for, because one could say the same for religion
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Leligion already doing that lo.

Taking the kids away from ...

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But..but.. ktards say gambling addiction is not a thing?
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Aug 8 2023, 07:35 AM)
Chared char siew.
Go self expire yourself alone, don't bring the whole family down with you, asshole

Exactly the saying, gambling addiction is one of the worst 5 vices
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Five?

Smoking, alcohol, gambling, womanizing...

Sorry bro, what's the fifth one?

THanks in advance!
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Aug 8 2023, 07:26 AM)
mental illness

What mental illness is associated with gambling?
Mental health issues.

People who gamble compulsively often have substance misuse problems, personality disorders, depression or anxiety. Compulsive gambling may also be associated with bipolar disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) or attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditi...es/syc-20355178
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Ah Long is not merely illegal lenders, they are actually robbers and extortionists.
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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Aug 8 2023, 07:23 AM)
Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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Ada orang main toto sampai hutang ah long?

Tanya je, jangan marah
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 8 2023, 07:46 AM)
send this to whoever u know that has gambling problem
if they don't get it and come around, they deserve to be disowned


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i can help u answer this

in thier head
it just need 1 time to win all back
and normal working salary they cant really wrap around thier head aready....aka if can win a bit sitting down,y need to work with sweet n blood for the same amount
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 8 2023, 07:54 AM)
Five?

Smoking, alcohol, gambling, womanizing...

Sorry bro, what's the fifth one?

THanks in advance!
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QUOTE(poco loco @ Aug 8 2023, 08:00 AM)
i can help u answer this

in thier head
it just need 1 time to win all back
and normal working salary they cant really wrap around thier head aready....aka if can win a bit sitting down,y need to work with sweet n blood for the same amount
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if you're being disowned/about to be disowned....are u still winning son? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 8 2023, 07:54 AM)
Five?

Smoking, alcohol, gambling, womanizing...

Sorry bro, what's the fifth one?

THanks in advance!
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My guess is the fifth vice is drugs.
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My classmate also hutang ah long then run away. Never heard since then
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China don't allow any religions or beliefs except believe in CCP, so people don't have faith in anything, and can get addicted to gambling more easily.
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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Aug 8 2023, 07:23 AM)
Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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Dadah is also salah and memusnahkan keluarga. Guess i was right all along
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 8 2023, 08:02 AM)
if you're being disowned/about to be disowned....are u still winning son? laugh.gif
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they areaddy lost so much,they cant think of other think then winning back,
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Kiterr sudah warning. Korang jer lalai. Jom kasi tutup.

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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Aug 8 2023, 07:23 AM)
Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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It time to take over Pahang and revoke the license.
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post Aug 8 2023, 08:15 AM

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dah kata kan judi haram,
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Just put 100% tax on gambling winnings.
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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Aug 8 2023, 07:23 AM)
Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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Does PAS approved teh tarik air minum untuk keluargamu?
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 8 2023, 07:54 AM)
Five?

Smoking, alcohol, gambling, womanizing...

Sorry bro, what's the fifth one?

THanks in advance!
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Was it 4? Why my granny kept saying 5 all this while. Maybe she self impose one on us. 😱

i remember well the rhythm in manderin goes like this > hisap, minum, du, flirt, greed

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QUOTE(haya @ Aug 8 2023, 07:25 AM)
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Wish for what? Or you wanna start vroom like the rest of your wumao friends?
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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ Aug 8 2023, 08:00 AM)
Dadah
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QUOTE(bass4focus @ Aug 8 2023, 08:06 AM)
My guess is the fifth vice is drugs.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Aug 8 2023, 08:21 AM)
Was it 4? Why my granny kept saying 5 all this while. Maybe she self impose one on us. 😱

i remember well the rhythm in manderin goes like this > hisap, minum, du, flirt, greed
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Thank you! I thought there were only four, indeed, "drugs" is the fifth, and rightly so!
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Aug 8 2023, 07:53 AM)
But..but.. ktards say gambling addiction is not a thing?
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A person can be addicted to anything, not limited to gambling. But is it widespread is another issue
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Why can’t police do something to arrest them ah longs? Inb4 susah kena pao

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 8 2023, 08:26 AM)
Thank you! I thought there were only four, indeed, "drugs" is the fifth, and rightly so!
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I was under impression, drug is under 'hisap'
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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ Aug 8 2023, 08:00 AM)
Dadah
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Smoking and drinking already under dadah category
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Aug 8 2023, 08:33 AM)
Smoking and drinking already under dadah category
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Now you've gotten me confused again rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif ... so, 4 or 5 categories?
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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Aug 8 2023, 07:23 AM)
Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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Diabetes destroyed more.

Joke aside, there are ample of addictions out there.
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 8 2023, 08:34 AM)
Now you've gotten me confused again rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  ... so, 4 or 5 categories?
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People are just pulling out these categories out of their ass.

You can be addicted to anything. Anything can be a vice.

Tobacco (nicotine) is a drug. Alcohol (ethanol) is a drug. Drugs are drugs.
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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Aug 8 2023, 07:23 AM)
Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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Puas has been gambling citizen's future all along.
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Now i was wondering why PUAS didnt say illegal money lending is destroying individual and police is not doing a good job. That will generate more goodwill.
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Thank God, I dont know how to gamble.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 8 2023, 07:46 AM)
send this to whoever u know that has gambling problem
if they don't get it and come around, they deserve to be disowned


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B-b-but RM1 million is small amount when I can win RM20 mil tomorrow!

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Once he wins Jackpot then they'll become his family again.
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Aiyaaa...
Keywords whether judi lah... Hisap lah... Etc

Addiction is the Glory to all... Gambling.... Sex... Drinking... Drug... And finally Eating other people wives or girlfriends..

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Once he wins Jackpot then they'll become his family again.
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Better stay far away.

You think that jackpot lasts how long?
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Aug 8 2023, 08:36 AM)
Diabetes destroyed more.

Joke aside, there are ample of addictions out there.
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tiktok say u can quit diabetes


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This one mental illness liao. Ppl gambling for entertainment but he go hoot all the way using money he don’t have
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Aug 8 2023, 07:55 AM)
Ah Long is not merely illegal lenders, they are actually robbers and extortionists.
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this case is different level already. ah long won't lend to people who cannot repay. this case all really useless kids sure tell the ah long mother father can pay, they have shop here and there and guaranteed the ah long. in a way the ah long also kena cheated by the gamblers
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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Aug 8 2023, 08:43 AM)
Thank God, I dont know how to gamble.
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Even business/ investment is a gamble, many said a calculated gamble.

Come come let's learn something out of anything. There is always something we can learn even from vice. Knowing ourself better to be exact.

From gambling in the casino many years back, i learned much, for one! is how to take losses and let go. There are many other more battles in life to be won.

Never walk yourself into a horn in any situation.

Said is easy, you gotta lose real to learn (mentally & ego)

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Aug 8 2023, 08:21 AM)
Was it 4? Why my granny kept saying 5 all this while. Maybe she self impose one on us. 😱

i remember well the rhythm in manderin goes like this > hisap, minum, du, flirt, greed
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eh got so many... i only know ppl always say 3 in hk pulis.. yellow, gamble, drug laugh.gif
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QUOTE(eyerule @ Aug 8 2023, 08:58 AM)
this case is different level already. ah long won't lend to people who cannot repay. this case all really useless kids sure tell the ah long mother father can pay, they have shop here and there and guaranteed the ah long. in a way the ah long also kena cheated by the gamblers
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nope, ah long always expect the borrowers f&f will chip in to pay their outrageous interest. Ah Long will never hesitate to extort the borrower's family, because that's where most of their collection came from.
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 8 2023, 08:34 AM)
Now you've gotten me confused again rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  ... so, 4 or 5 categories?
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Don't listen to KBT la. He also pull his own category out of his ass.

The 5 category is Chinese category or saying. KBT is not real chinese.

What KBT die die wanna do is like classifying himself as primate instead of homo sapien

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QUOTE(eyerule @ Aug 8 2023, 08:58 AM)
this case is different level already. ah long won't lend to people who cannot repay. this case all really useless kids sure tell the ah long mother father can pay, they have shop here and there and guaranteed the ah long. in a way the ah long also kena cheated by the gamblers
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The first case is really daylight robbery and extortion liao, pay 20k ish 10 min too late also end up hutang another 5k, that ah long better go fucking die! Seriously police never round up these fucking pests, buat orang susah je, if anything if the ah long just round up the debtor and harvest their shitty organs then at least didn't kacau innocent people. Sampah ah long.
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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Aug 8 2023, 07:23 AM)
Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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You don't need PAS to tell you that
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QUOTE(drug5 @ Aug 8 2023, 08:57 AM)
This one mental illness liao. Ppl gambling for entertainment but he go hoot all the way using money he don’t have
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Chasing loses
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These kids deserve to be rundown by motobodo and left coma in hospital. Later family can say pull the plug.
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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Aug 8 2023, 07:23 AM)
Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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These are out of control cases. Casino can be an entertainment outlet for many who can afford, who wants to relax n enjoy the environment. Thats why u need a legalise option n ban illegal outlets
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This gambling fella reminds me one of my secondary schoolmate, that fella literally can gamble on anything. He even bet on hari sukan with some other students(malay and indian included), I remember he got a notebook to record down his gambling business. Things doesn't goes well with him, after we graduated he still with his gambling business. Family members cannot tahan, force him out of the house and force him work with his aunt in a restaurant. After few months he fucked up big time, few people frequently came to his aunt stall looking for him. Some of my friend said they're ah long, some said those are the people he conned during gambling. I wonder where is he now, probably hiding some where...
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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Aug 8 2023, 07:23 AM)
Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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No problem pulak when collecting money from gambling to buy mercs
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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ Aug 8 2023, 07:57 AM)
Ada orang main toto sampai hutang ah long?

Tanya je, jangan marah
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underground/black market 1 will

because they let u bet advance

actually now legal 1 also "can" already ; they let u pay with tng ewallet which u can top up using credit card





this is more like self discipline..even Malaysia ban all MKT.. ppl just switch to Hao Long and continue bet

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I think sugar and fat destroy more family than gambling.

Sendiri mau judi, sendiri tanggung la ... baik 14th floor je x menyusahkan orang lain.
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Actually along and gangster kesah or not it parent disown? They will still kacau the parent right?
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Was it 4? Why my granny kept saying 5 all this while. Maybe she self impose one on us. 😱

i remember well the rhythm in manderin goes like this > hisap, minum, du, flirt, greed
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What is "du"?
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seems like no one talk about the illegal loanshark, kek
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Actually, with online gambling so rampant now, whatever enforcement or preaching is pretty worthless now.
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What is "du"?
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Gambling, judi
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Kena during 2017 Wukong machine and Ocean King machine. Scared liao. Now kuai kuai do business. Can see more money coming in than gambling
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salah government. if make casino legal ppl wont go online gamble.

salah goverment. if they give loan after loan non stop. ppl wont go to ahlong.

salah government. If they make minimum wage rm5000 ppl wont even need to take loan to gamble.

SEMUA SALAH PMX
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Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Aug 8 2023, 07:23 AM)
Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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QUOTE(delon85 @ Aug 8 2023, 08:27 AM)
A person can be addicted to anything, not limited to gambling. But is it widespread is another issue
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This is one weak ass argument
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QUOTE(ahpoo @ Aug 8 2023, 09:53 AM)
Actually along and gangster kesah or not it parent disown? They will still kacau the parent right?
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There is no legal concept of disowning children in Malaysian law.

Then again, it is not as if the loan sharks work within the legal framework, so who knows how they work.
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500,000? A lot of people doesnt even have 5k on epf
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QUOTE(The_Rock @ Aug 8 2023, 10:05 AM)
Kena during 2017 Wukong machine and Ocean King machine. Scared liao. Now kuai kuai do business. Can see more money coming in than gambling
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Aug 8 2023, 08:21 AM)
Was it 4? Why my granny kept saying 5 all this while. Maybe she self impose one on us. 😱

i remember well the rhythm in manderin goes like this > hisap, minum, du, flirt, greed
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In cantonese is piu, dou, yam, thong, chui

To flirt, to gamble, to drink, to pawn, to smoke

To pawn I not v sure.
To smoke cos in the past was smoke opium. Now more on cigarette
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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Aug 8 2023, 09:30 AM)
No problem pulak when collecting money from gambling to buy mercs
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Aug 8 2023, 09:50 AM)
underground/black market 1 will

because they let u bet advance

actually now legal 1 also "can" already ; they let u pay with tng ewallet which u can top up using credit card
this is more like self discipline..even Malaysia ban all MKT.. ppl just switch to Hao Long and continue bet
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max pun few hundreds (rarely)

Sampai hutang ah long, first time dengar
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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Aug 8 2023, 10:32 AM)
In cantonese is piu, dou, yam, thong, chui

To flirt, to gamble, to drink, to pawn, to smoke

To pawn I not v sure.
To smoke cos in the past was smoke opium.  Now more on cigarette
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Yeah, i came across that cantonese rhythm too.

Lets think hard on ' to pawn'. There must be a reason why it was mentioned as such. You have any senior to consult?

Pls share if you got any clue. 🙏
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1. Alcohol
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The five classics for Chinese downfall.
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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ Aug 8 2023, 10:37 AM)
I know my friends betting toto
max pun few hundreds (rarely)

Sampai hutang ah long, first time dengar
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undermarket punya will bet a lot

i got 1 not very close friend is kind of like big bookie in that region..sometime when makan half way suddenly he black face ..because got ppl strike big ..lesser revenue already laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Aug 8 2023, 07:23 AM)
Judi adalah salah and memusnahkan keluarga... PAS was right all along.
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Handful of sohai don't represent everyone.

Many of us gamble too. Poker and mahjong with friends. Blackjack during CNY. 4d and toto tickets. A few trips to genting every so often. When got family dinner, sure everybody chip in money and make group bet on which lottery got higher jackpot.

Our families not destroyed. Pretty sure gomen appreciates the revenue.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Aug 8 2023, 10:41 AM)
Yeah, i came across that cantonese rhythm too.

Lets think hard on ' to pawn'. There must be a reason why it was mentioned as such. You have any senior to consult?

Pls share if you got any clue. 🙏
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Last time those lazy man will keep bring their house belongings to pawn shop. This is embarrassing to the family and family become poorer
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QUOTE(haya @ Aug 8 2023, 07:25 AM)
Careful for what you wish for, because one could say the same for religion
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Might be due to the lack of religion precisely, that brings about the addiction. That "void" u know....
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Aug 8 2023, 10:20 AM)
This is one weak ass argument
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Weak ass? How many people are addicted to gambling which ruined their families in Malaysia? How often did it occur?

Compare this with other addictions like drugs etc.
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QUOTE(delon85 @ Aug 8 2023, 12:04 PM)
Weak ass? How many people are addicted to gambling which ruined their families in Malaysia? How often did it occur?

Compare this with other addictions like drugs etc.
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how many do u need before u take action?

Loo & Ang10 studied the prevalence of problem gambling in Malaysia's largest state (Selangor, with a population of 5.6 million) and found that 4.4% of the general population were problem gamblers and 10.2% were moderate-risk gamblers.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P...risk%20gamblers.
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Aug 8 2023, 12:16 PM)
how many do u need before u take action?

Loo & Ang10 studied the prevalence of problem gambling in Malaysia's largest state (Selangor, with a population of 5.6 million) and found that 4.4% of the general population were problem gamblers and 10.2% were moderate-risk gamblers.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P...risk%20gamblers.
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Did you read what you post. What's a problem gambler and what's moderate risk gambler?

Selangor got 40% nons. So 1 in 3 got problem with gambling? How come it's not big news then.

SuperGampang = bullshit artist

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kesian family
gambling addict need help
they so bodo go bet in ONLINE gambling where every probability/chances edi determined by the site/app owner

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apa kata kalau parents yang pinjam along?
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why got Ah long in the first place?

no ah long no Loan, thats half of the problem solved (other than gambling addict)
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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Aug 8 2023, 10:41 AM)
1. Alcohol
2. Cigarette/Drugs
3. Gambling
4. Prostitution
5. Gangster/Triads/Mafia

The five classics for Chinese downfall.
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This one Kaya Butter Toast can't understand cos his culture pluck from his ass.
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This one Kaya Butter Toast can't understand cos his culture pluck from his ass.
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It's applicable to all races, not Chinese alone dumbass
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F@cking gamblers. The Chinese say "If want to die go die far far away".

Its ok if you dont contribute anything to your family but dont bring further problems and hardship to them.
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Aug 8 2023, 12:35 PM)
It's applicable to all races, not Chinese alone dumbass
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1st step : say ah long kacau them
2nd step : find mca
3rd step : disown

this is basic sop
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addiction

the gambling itself no harm if you treat it as entertainment and has full control over it
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QUOTE(KevProp @ Aug 8 2023, 12:59 PM)
addiction

the gambling itself no harm if you treat it as entertainment and has full control over it
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Addiction is becos they use real money. If lose money, sure they try to get it back. Then becomes a bigger and bigger hole.
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F@cking gamblers. The Chinese say "If want to die go die far far away".

Its ok if you dont contribute anything to your family but dont bring further problems and hardship to them.
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This, i agree fully
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Addiction is becos they use real money. If lose money, sure they try to get it back. Then becomes a bigger and bigger hole.
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Chasing loses in short. One who does that is akin walking into a horn.

Not only chasing loses, never allow yourself walking into a horn in any situation ie kena dump in relationship
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Aug 8 2023, 09:02 AM)
nope, ah long always expect the borrowers f&f will chip in to pay their outrageous interest. Ah Long will never hesitate to extort the borrower's family, because that's where most of their collection came from.
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nope. ah long doing business. they want less risk. this one is confirm this is the worst kind of borrower, he essentially borrowed from the lowest and worst type of ah long actually not ah long already, it's gangsters.

borrower is extremely high risk, lender also will have to be those that are willing to deal with these kind of borrowers
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QUOTE(Juan86 @ Aug 8 2023, 12:53 PM)
1st step : say ah long kacau them
2nd step : find mca
3rd step : disown

this is basic sop
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If they learn from 4everalone ktards, no need go thru that 3 steps. innocent.gif
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Parents feed the problem then end up ragrets
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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Aug 8 2023, 10:41 AM)
1. Alcohol
2. Cigarette/Drugs
3. Gambling
4. Prostitution
5. Gangster/Triads/Mafia

The five classics for Chinese downfall.
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Avoid all five can become what?
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Aug 8 2023, 09:01 AM)
Even business/ investment is a gamble, many said a calculated gamble.

Come come let's learn something out of anything. There is always something we can learn even from vice. Knowing ourself better to be exact.

From gambling in the casino many years back, i learned many, for one! is how to take loses and let go. There are many other more battles in life to be won.

Never walk yourself into a horn in any situation.

Said is easy, you gotta lose real to learn (mentally & ego)
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Set a target for losses and walk way. Same with businesses and investment. Those that don't get sucked into a downward spiral.

Rare few times I go casino I set budget, then 'buffer' budget if original amount habis. Also set time. Win or lose, time's up then walk out.
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QUOTE(eyerule @ Aug 8 2023, 09:11 PM)
nope. ah long doing business. they want less risk. this one is confirm this is the worst kind of borrower, he essentially borrowed from the lowest and worst type of ah long actually not ah long already, it's gangsters.

borrower is extremely high risk, lender also will have to be those that are willing to deal with these kind of borrowers
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Ah long reduce their risk by going after the borrower's family & friends.

Asshole way to reduce risk, but risk reduction nevertheless.
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Huat ah
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Aug 8 2023, 08:48 AM)
Aiyaaa...
Keywords whether judi lah... Hisap lah... Etc

Addiction is the Glory to all... Gambling.... Sex... Drinking... Drug... And finally Eating other people wives or girlfriends..
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It's oni wrong if other pipul do it.
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My opinion.
Dun take 3 retards and make it seem everyone is like them.

You put 50k in their hands, even if gambling does not exist they will find a way to lose it.
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Ban gambling and give death penalty to loan shark.
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1 day 10k, every month almost 300k, just from one shop

/lol
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if you're being disowned/about to be disowned....are u still winning son? laugh.gif
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I will be going to gamble today.... RM4 toto 4d jackpot. No need to borrow from along rclxm9.gif
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Can this disown thing be legally enforced? Or just tactic to run from ah long?
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Aug 8 2023, 09:50 PM)
Avoid all five can become what?
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Splash black paint also.
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Aug 8 2023, 10:27 AM)
Wukong can earn a bit money if its not rigged
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Got earn 40k but lost 70k to Mercedes machine and Ocean King.
So lost 30k. In 1 week time only. That time was lucky my saving. So I sworn not to gamble anymore. Even buy number also no
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QUOTE(knumskul @ Aug 8 2023, 09:56 PM)
Ah long reduce their risk by going after the borrower's family & friends.

Asshole way to reduce risk, but risk reduction nevertheless.
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well, usually the borrower which is the idiot would tell this last resort ah long that his/her parents will guarantee the loan la. takes two to clap. even banks got 2 emergency contact. if the borrower never pay and can't be contacted then they will call those 2 persons
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Can this disown thing be legally enforced? Or just tactic to run from ah long?
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QUOTE(haya @ Aug 8 2023, 10:22 AM)
There is no legal concept of disowning children in Malaysian law.

Then again, it is not as if the loan sharks work within the legal framework, so who knows how they work.
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