Most of the tests are fine but I'm specially bad at Jalan atas titi and selekoh tajam.
Any sifu can give me some tips on overcoming these 2 tests?
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Jul 31 2023, 08:50 PM, updated 7 months ago
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Hi guys I've just started to get my B full license recently.
Most of the tests are fine but I'm specially bad at Jalan atas titi and selekoh tajam. Any sifu can give me some tips on overcoming these 2 tests? |
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Jul 31 2023, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Jul 31 2023, 08:55 PM) On titi - look where you want to go, do not look on the titi... On titi I can understand. But that selekoh tajam the road is almost as wide as the bike only. Don't look later won't langgar tepi ka? Similarly with selekoh tajam. ezpz... FYI, my 16 years old son got his B Full straight pass. Zero experience with any motorcycle at all. Good luck. |
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Jul 31 2023, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 31 2023, 09:42 PM) For Titi do the following. I see..... At sharp turn I always lean with the bike. Newbie mah...... 1) line up at the titi, but as far back as possible without the rear tyre crossing the line. This will allow you to ramp up speed before getting on the titi. 2) focus on the (slalom) cones ahead, which usually will be in-line with the titi.. Give it throttle to get up on the titi. Immediately feather rear brake and throttle/clutch all through the titi run to keep speed and start counting down 8 seconds. As long as you are focused on going straight and moving, you won't fall off. For the sharp corner, again feather rear brake (don't use front brake) feather clutch, counter lean (lean slightly away from the corner; while turning right, shift your body left). The titi test is more to test nerves than skill. I've seen completely new riders with mere hours on a bike pass the first time and see veteran riders fall off multiple times. One more advise, when practicing, go off the titi a few times, so you won't be scared of falling off. It will make you calmer later on. I have one question: for example like if I failed 1 section of the test do I need to redo all the tests again or only retry the the section that I failed? Now the bahagian 3 I no problem dy. Just that 2 sections of litar test I not really confident. |
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Jul 31 2023, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 31 2023, 10:01 PM) If you fail the 1st section, you just need to do the first section next time....but since the circuit is continuous, you just have to do 2-3 at the same time. OK... I'll tell my teacher to let me keep practice until I'm confident. Anyway I still need to wait 1 month for my L license to be able to register for test.Just to add for the titi. It's ok to go faster (to gain momentum and balance) for the first 1/4 of the titi as long as you slow down enough for the rest of it. A lot of people make the mistake of going too slow up the titi. The test for me was fun though.... During practice did all the funny things ..like stopping in the middle of the titi while balancing, doing a slight wheelie during the run to e brake...steep lean angles during figure 8. Would be embarrassing if I didn't pass the first time out...hahahaha. So I think I'll practice hard in this 1 month time. |
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Jul 31 2023, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 31 2023, 10:16 PM) If you already have a big bike, practice counter leaning in a parking lot. You will find the bike turns more easily and sharper for tight low speed turns. I don't own a big bike yet. Thinking of getting one after I get my license. But I'll try your method during my next lesson. Only higher speed corners you can lean with the bike. Low speed is usually counter lean. |
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Aug 1 2023, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Aug 1 2023, 06:38 AM) It's always look where you want to go, not where you are at + tons of practice. My academy only have 1 bike for B full test. Because not many people willing to spend RM1k+ for that license. Most big bike rider at my place don't have B full. Some B2 also don't have. And practice with all available bike as you'll never know which one will be yours during the test day. You're right, I will discuss with my teacher let me have more practice. This post has been edited by Si kutu rayau: Aug 1 2023, 10:13 AM |
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Aug 1 2023, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Aug 1 2023, 11:11 AM) practice practice and more practice It's z650. just wondering, er6 or z650? i imagine its more susah on the er6, its a hefty-ish bike QUOTE(xnobys @ Aug 1 2023, 11:49 AM) Nowadays got sharp corner test? 1. Jalan titiErr... Care to let me know the flow of the test for B Full now? Feel so unker already. 2. Strolling between cones 3. Emergency brake 4. Bumpy road 5. Spinning 8 6. Sharp cornering Then test jalan. |
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Aug 2 2023, 02:53 PM
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Aug 2 2023, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Aug 2 2023, 04:33 PM) Go go go go go go go go At least you got Z650. ezpz... not like some of us that 'learn' and test on Virago 535. Clunky heavy as rock. Hand cannot tahan... |
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Aug 5 2023, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(ganz @ Aug 3 2023, 04:49 PM) bro... where u register? how much it is? I'm at Sarawak. The price is RM 1020. That's the cheapest I can get. Other places quote RM1230.it different rate in klang valley.. while most quote around 700-900, metro driving quote me rm1250 but those cheap one need to wait until dec 2023 (class full) This post has been edited by Si kutu rayau: Aug 5 2023, 11:18 AM |
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Aug 6 2023, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 31 2023, 09:42 PM) For Titi do the following. Thanks bro for the counter lean tips. After these few days of practice I can do the 8 turn and sharp corner with ease now. 1) line up at the titi, but as far back as possible without the rear tyre crossing the line. This will allow you to ramp up speed before getting on the titi. 2) focus on the (slalom) cones ahead, which usually will be in-line with the titi.. Give it throttle to get up on the titi. Immediately feather rear brake and throttle/clutch all through the titi run to keep speed and start counting down 8 seconds. As long as you are focused on going straight and moving, you won't fall off. For the sharp corner, again feather rear brake (don't use front brake) feather clutch, counter lean (lean slightly away from the corner; while turning right, shift your body left. bike will turn easier...and sharper). The titi test is more to test nerves than skill. I've seen completely new riders with mere hours on a bike pass the first time and see veteran riders fall off multiple times. One more advise, when practicing, go off the titi a few times, so you won't be scared of falling off. It will make you calmer later on. As for Titi also not much problem now. The titi at my training center is so low you don't even feel the bump. My teacher said the test officer don't count properly so as long as don't fall there's no problem. I can last like around 8~9 secs. The rest kacang saja, now I'll only need to go practice once in a few days mostly to let me familiar with the bike. My L license is 10 days old only, need to wait enough 1 month to take the test...... This post has been edited by Si kutu rayau: Aug 6 2023, 05:52 PM jaycee1 liked this post
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Aug 9 2023, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(harryleesbr @ Aug 8 2023, 10:18 AM) don't leave too much gap between the last lesson and day of test. ideally not more than 1 week. pay for extra lesson if need to. Now I practice 3 days a week until I can test. Currently I'm the only person taking B full at my academy so I can ride anytime. this is provided you do not have a 500cc bike for L But actually I'm messing around with the bike. |
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Sep 1 2023, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(alex000999000 @ Aug 27 2023, 10:01 PM) Hi asking the place you all take B full license, is the bike provide to you with crash bar ? and they got say you need to pay the repair fee when you drop the bike or they got insurance to cover the broken when you drop it No crash bar eh.... The bike already dropped plenty of times. I even heard other teacher saying someone crashed and broke his legs during test before. That's when my teacher ask me to do the emergency brake challenge in 5 secs. Then he got scolded by other teacher because too dangerous.I dropped the bike once too. They didn't ask me to pay. This post has been edited by Si kutu rayau: Sep 1 2023, 02:46 PM |
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Sep 5 2023, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(alex000999000 @ Sep 5 2023, 02:49 AM) yup no crash bar on heavy bike also one serious issue, during class from the drop that day my leg still swollen and bruise till today still feel pain when walking Oh so you also taking B full license? Did your teacher ask you to finish the emergency brake challenge in 5 secs? Now I'm very confusing, my teacher said must do it in 5 secs or I'll fail. But other teacher said no such thing. The best I can do is 7 secs. Any faster I can feel the bike out of my control. |
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QUOTE(xnobys @ Sep 6 2023, 11:09 AM) The only part of the test that requires timing is titi only. At least during my time. That's what I do, but my teacher say from the moment my bike start moving until it stop cannot exceed 5 secs. My teacher also confused with a lot of rules because not teaching B full for a long time and the bike keeps breaking down. For emergency brake, you need to start braking after you pass the first line and the bike must stop before the second line. I think... My test will be in 2 more weeks. It makes me worry...... |
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Sep 6 2023, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 7 2023, 08:41 AM) Nothing wrong with that, just teacher need to teach details properly.Like me even I ride kapcai for 20 years first time ride big bike the teacher didn't say release the clutch slowly I sekali release the bike drop lo.... |
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Sep 9 2023, 10:23 AM
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Yesterday my teacher keep asking me go faster and faster at emergency brake until I dropped the bike again. Luckily not a scratch. Then some other teacher saw and he kena tiao again. Last last ask me to ignore it, just make sure the rear tyre screech a bit when braking ok dy. Thinking back it's impossible la because the best I can do without crashing is 4.43 secs. That's almost out of the box dy. My test is at 13th sept. Wish me luck ya. This post has been edited by Si kutu rayau: Sep 9 2023, 10:31 AM alex000999000 liked this post
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QUOTE(genesiscopy @ Sep 9 2023, 01:15 PM) Last time my instructor say just do it under 6 seconds. But tbh can't find it in the jpj rulebook. Just ride as usual, i think mine was up to 2nd gear then stop in the box. Test bike is mt07. The other instructor said no time limit. If raining you just ride slow slow and stop. |
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 9 2023, 10:41 PM) Ok, what I experienced so far in Driving school.. most of instructors only teach us "how to operate/ride the bike" only Yea..... Same thing happened to me as well. I already told my instructor that although I ride kapcai for 20 years but I have no experience with clutch bike and he simply ignored that. They never explain in details. Luckily after I fell once I slowly try to familiar with the bike myself and now I can ride it properly. |
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