They do allow other helmets. But they recommend the one they give or an open face...easier for the testers to see your face.

Not all testing centres or schools give free helmets.

Not what they said, someone else brought an open face helmet of their own, can't use it.
Had to use what was given or borrow the school's helmet.

Took my test over 2 decades ago, it's all a bit foggy now. I remember I had always driven a manual car and I was used to riding Pakcik Mat's C70 in the kampung, so the concept of working a clutch and riding a motorcycle wasn't alien to me. All it took was a bit of practice with the driving school's XV535. Wasn't difficult at all.

My wife on the other hand, never drove a manual car and had never ridden a motorcycle before when she decided to go for a B Full license... so that was a bit of a challenge.

The driving school told her to go learn how to ride a bike first from someone else before taking proper lessons.

First thing I taught her on my D400 was what a clutch is and what it does, and how to know when the clutch plates are biting as she slowly releases the clutch lever with the brakes fully on. It was all stationary at this point, she was not allowed to let the bike move or creep forward as it would have been a recipe for disaster in the condo car park for sure.

After 2 days of that, we went to the empty stadium parking lot where it was safer. She was briefed on how the brakes worked and how to cut the power by pulling the clutch + zeroing the throttle in order to safely recover the second she felt things were going out of her control (my biggest fear here is having my wife on a runaway bike). Here she learned how to feed in the power via the throttle and very slowly release the clutch to engage the 1st gear. She had to engage and cut the clutch repeatedly while moving the bike 10 metres in a straight line at a time just to get her used to engaging the clutch. At the end of the stretch, I turned the bike around and she repeated the steps all over again. Expectedly she kept stalling the bike a lot due to insufficient throttle, sometimes it would throw her off balance. She had trouble at this stage coz she wasn't used to the weight of the clutch and the weight of the bike.

At this point we paid that Hafiq Azmi guy to coach her on working the clutch on a much lighter bike - the RS150 kapcai. That did the trick. After 2 sessions she could ride the bike in 1st gear and execute easy turns.

Next was to transfer those new skills to the much heavier D400. This was where she started dropping the bike while gaining sufficient experience to start negotiating a large, simple square circuit around the empty parking lot.

Once she got over that stage, she was allowed to engage 2nd gear to see the difference in throttle response between 1st and 2nd gear. Once she got a hang of that, I let her negotiate a slightly more complex circuit with easy-going left and right turns. Taught her now to slip the clutch and leverage the rear brake for low-speed control to negotiate smaller turns.

It got a lot easier after that. Changed the circuit to introduce a longer stretch so that she may engage 3rd and alternate between the 3 gears so that she could understand how to work the clutch in and out of all 3 gears.

After that, I taught her how to counter-lean to negotiate a wide circular circuit. After she could manage tighter circles, she was ready for the slalom. Easier slaloms first, then tighter ones.

At this point she was ready to return to the driving school to transfer what she had learned from riding the RS150 and D400 to the MT07 with a clapped-out clutch. She learned that there was a challenge each time moving up to bigger bikes.

Towards the end of her driving school classes, she was ready to venture out of the carpark and get on the road. I installed a Cardo Packtalk Bold in her helmet so that I could teach her roadcraft skills.. and off we went. On the road she was reminded of the weight transfer forward while braking and was warned not to rely on the rear brake for stopping except at very low speeds. Front brakes must be used progressively, grabbing an instant handful is a strict no-no. I sold the D400 and got her the 700CLX, and soon she was riding with me from Ampang to my parents' place in Semenyih and to Gopeng.

Her B Full test came soon after and she passed first time out. Her first ride on her B Full license was to Tg Sepat, Pantai Remis and Gohtong Jaya. Made 2 bike trips to Langkawi in the same year.

With enough miles and experience under her belt, she got into the habit of grabbing every test-ride opportunity she could to experience, understand and appreciate the difference in riding across different bikes. Apa lanjiao semua dia balun asalkan seat height 820mm or less - 400NK, Vulcan S, Z900RS, GSX750S, Z900, Trident 660.

Now she rides her to work every day, no problem.





This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Jan 25 2024, 03:08 PM

What a journey.... Thanks for sharing

r25

Oh nice, last time my sis bought a z250sl for training.... how was your training going on?

nolah passed about 1 year back, all good. still have the r25 but hardly moves now... alamak havent check the battery in a while

You have to start the bike 1 week once at least.. good to hear that..

They're giving open face helmet waiting for my L license then start the 16 hours grueling compulsory training session : currently looking at used Z300 or Z400 as my first bike .

Hmm will they care if the sirim sticker is still there? Mine helmet used for driving school was peeled off.
Takut during exam JPJ disqualify me cos no Sirim sticker.
Being bright colour without any graphics does not help too.
From far you will see the sticker is missing behind.


Do you remember how long does it take until she passed and got her lesen?

One thing for me is I a little bit not confident taking the exam after completed the compulsory hour.

As of now i just go to the driving school to practice but they like to drag here and there until one full day is gone (if i go for kpp02 and 03 free practice).

Actually Hafiq Azmi recommended me to get the simple bike to practice first, he actually recommend fz150i. Not sure if it is a good call or I should go for bigger bike (Bfull lesen)?

This post has been edited by minizian: Jan 31 2024, 03:17 PM

Since there was no time limit and since we did have a trainer bike at home, there was no need to place undue pressure on the wife by rushing her through her training. After all she had zero experience on two wheels other than riding bicycles, so why rush?

From the time she got her L license, I coached her every week or so for about 7-8 months to make sure she could rack up more than enough practice and experience before going back to the driving school. It was important to build her confidence and competency first before stepping up to the driving school's MT07, in order to minimize the risk of her getting discouraged and giving up.

She completed the required classes with the driving school in 2 months. By that time she was already competent enough to tour with me on the Dominar 400 and 700 CL-X, and she was finally ready for her B-Full test which she aced without any problem.

Depending on your level of experience, it might actually be beneficial for you to start on the smallest clutch-equipped bike possible. After Hafiq Azmi's RS150, we didn't have anything smaller than the Dominar 400 so it had to do. If we had the FZ150 it would have probably been easier for her since it's lighter and weight is always a factor for short, female newbies. But once she mastered the Dominar 400, getting a hang of the MT07 was far less of a problem.

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Jan 31 2024, 09:48 PM

Thank you for sharing your experience.

I think I am the opposite of her, I have done the required hours in Driving School but no bike to start with.
Going back to the driving school for free practice is bad idea since they like to drag everything causing one full day gone just for only 3 hours plus of actual riding on school circuit.

I am actually considering domino as the bike for me to start with, understood that you had very bad relationship with the bike the moment you step into the dealer.
The way I see it as the bike that set good base since it is very heavy price new and used is also reasonable
Was looking at used unit but felt like need to be damn careful as kena cheated in a shape of form by the shop

Well don't get me wrong. While I did not have a good experience owning it and depending on it to get to work, I discovered that it is a fantastic trainer bike for aspiring B Full newbies. My wife learned a hell lot from riding on it, and I sure as hell didn't mind her dropping it (the stock crash bars actually worked well). A quick spray with black paint and I had no problems trading it in for a new 700 CL-X.

If you have the budget, getting a used one for the purpose of gaining the necessary riding experience before investing in your dream B Full bike is not a bad idea provided you know how to inspect the bike and understand its common weak points. Plenty of other sifus here to gladly show you the way.

lots of sound and good advice. tho i may be going against the grain a bit on it since the bike of my dreams is the one im getting right off the bat post my license since thats the only one ive made my financial plans around.

hopefully i can learn and learn without much damge to the bike, myslef and my wallet haha.

Well there is no hard rule what to get for a first bike.

But regardless what it is, get a bike you don't need to sayang. If you don't drop it, you won't learn.

First week I got my "L" I went off road on it and promptly dropped it a few times.

I've dropped my dominar so many times that I had lost count. Replaced a few shifters, crash bar and a foot peg. Cheap parts. Rest of the bike held up very well. Those crash bars work well. Bang on the limiter each gear change every day. Max out 160 all the way back kampung. Jumped every speed hump. Gone through 4 sets of tyres. It has since put on 65k of well serviced life. More than I could have asked of it.

These sort of fun and crucial newbie riding experiences would be hard to get on a bike you sayang too much.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Feb 1 2024, 02:52 PM

I had a different route to you. I started riding B2 in my teens up to my mid 20's. Yes, I did get into a few accidents back then. But much later on, I got my 600 first even before getting my L. Being a mature rider, I think the 600 as my first big bike wasn't an issue. It is more of a mindset matter. Throughout my L till now, I only had one fall. That was on the 600 but it was a slow speed one where the front tyre slipped on dry mud in the corner. That being said, I did sayang my 600 very much.

I guess in this context, I did go against the norm of getting a bike I could drop. What I am trying to say is that there is no hard and fast rule to this. The reason why I managed to keep the 600 for many years and dropping it only once is because I sayang the bike and damage to it is more painful to me, so I rode thoughtfully and carefully. I did take risks but always calculated risks. Staying alive to me while enjoying the ride is above all.

Finally I had pass my B Full Test on yesterday

Finally I had pass my B Full Test on yesterday

This post has been edited by Vincent6596: Feb 16 2024, 09:04 AM


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