As announced by Communications and Digital Minister Fahmi Fadzil, the new Mandatory Standard on Access Pricing (MSAP) issued by the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) in March is aimed at reducing broadband prices in the country. After four months, the MCMC said the price reduction is only expected to happen after September 2023 after access agreements have been concluded between the service providers.

On Friday, TM released its new Reference Access Offer (RAO) which outlines the wholesale pricing of its High-Speed Broadband (HSBB) network. With lower HSBB wholesale prices, consumers can expect to enjoy cheaper retail prices for fibre broadband as TM’s HSBB network is the largest and currently utilised by various broadband players including TM’s own Unifi, CelcomDigi, Maxis, Astro and ViewQwest.

According to TM’s new RAO, they have set tiered pricing and the wholesale charges is only cheaper with higher monthly volume. On the lowest tier of 0-499,999Mbps, TM is charging RM8 per Mbps/month versus RM2.55 per Mbps for the highest tier of 9,000,000Mbps and above. That means providers with low monthly volume (less than 500Gbps) would have to pay RM800 for 100Mbps, while providers that can commit to a minimum of 9Tbps per month will only need to pay RM255/month for 100Mbps.

Under the new MSAP issued by the MCMC in February 2023, this year’s mandatory HSBB wholesale price for 100Mbps is RM254.64/month and it is a 50.5% reduction from RM515/month under the 2020 MSAP rate which is still applicable today. According to MCMC’s schedule, the wholesale rates will continue to decline with 100Mbps costing RM217.65/month in 2024 and RM186.21/month in 2025. There’s no minimum volume stated under the MSAP and the price should be applicable to all access seekers including smaller players.

As we’ve highlighted from TM’s new RAO, the wholesale rate of RM255/month is only applicable to access seekers that can commit to a whopping 9Tbps a month. If an existing access seeker is utilising less than 4Tbps a month (e.g. 1.5 to 3.99Tbps), 100Mbps would cost them RM585/month, which is higher than the current MSAP 2020 rate of RM515/month.



https://soyacincau.com/2023/07/30/tm-releas...adband-pricing/

Finally. 100mbps RM39

theberry how?

auto price reduction on all existing customer then only i will hail fahmi

So long article didn't said new consumer pricing. Lel

price should be adjusted every year
but TM maintain that same price for like 5 years straight or more

This post has been edited by billyboy: Jul 30 2023, 04:12 PM

this. and eliminate the contract requirement.

effective 2025 ?

You think the contract only protect TM?

stupid.

TM erected barrier of entry to new player.

if don't have volume, interested ISP will have to pay expensive per Mbps. that translates to higher package price for subscribers.

basically TM is saying, "we complied with MSAP rate" by applying the new rate only to those who have large enough volume.

you'll see if your current ISP will be able to discount you further after this.
if it can't, please understand that it is due to TM playing with complying.

those smaller ISP will find it harder to grow their volume because they'll be outpromoted and outpriced by larger player.

MSAP is supposed to make it fair to everyone.
TM had weaponised it instead.

This post has been edited by Oltromen Ripot: Jul 30 2023, 04:40 PM

syukur alhamdulillah

I think after away for the dream.

Why? Syukur for?

In other word, TM wants to be no 1 in Malaysia because it has the whole infrastructure for fiber.
However, the govt has granted millions of RM to build up this backbone from tax payer money.

In the end who is the losers? Rakyat again?

this is what happens when there's a monopoly

then come with complication:
your area port habis
your condo cable too old
your area too low demand
your current contract cannot convert

your area vote wrong party(joke)
your area high risk, many thief stole cable and equipment(joke)

Apa new pricing ?

dream on
all operators will remain same price then increase 100mbps to 120mbps
TM: we give more 20% performance with same price! owai

Exactly, go around the park, lake, mountain trek, long write up but no consumer pricing.

not only that.

it's because the regulator is not doing its job.

can read in the article, there's already defence by saying RAO is not subjected to MCMC's approval. It also said that pricing ended up even more expensive than before; isn't that goes against the purpose and intent of MSAP reducing price overboard?

So playing favourite with declared MSAP is not an offence, not an insult to MCMC? Will MCMC overlook, be docile to this?

This post has been edited by Oltromen Ripot: Jul 30 2023, 05:03 PM

not competitive for all the isp who use TM as backbone.
Gov funds the TM infrastructure yet TM coming out with such rule to stay afloat.

This kind of policy is mind fuck.

inb4 because of complaints, TM will retract the newly-published RAO for revision. new estimated republish is September 2024.

"we are still in compliance with MCMC announcement, of publishing RAO AFTER September 2023 with this new development. You can expect resulting price reduction revision to your broadband subscription will follow suit.."

Banyak circus.

speed upgrade expected from the big player la. 9tbps is not a big deal if they already spend rm23mil to tm every month.

Removed

This post has been edited by zidane28: Jul 30 2023, 05:37 PM

If Time and TNB build and expand their coverage I'll jump ship to support competition and rivalry.

Where is the consumer pricing...

dont care. end users does not have to know.

So price hike or down

what's stopping Maxis to increase their own fiber network..? TIME is doing well without depending on TM

Who said fadzil not working like gobind?

consumer pricing mana
I dont give a shit about the wholesale price

gobind is straight forward

fahmi is basically trying to reduce the price of the infra, HOPING ISP would reduce their prices ON SEPTEMBER
in reality, ISP will only pocket the difference and report higher profit

Both working different way, but all can benefit the people. Gobind is outspoken & Fadhil is soft touch. We lost the touch almost 5 years during PN Moomoo & BN Penyu become PM. Apa habuk to tarak... Main katak saja hari2.

u can wait until september...see if there's any news
i can guarantee u....it's also habuk pun tarak
and this is the 2nd news already

the previous news, he say will announce 1 week before raya
that price reduction news until today also habuk pun tarak

Long winded article without the end user pricing we came for.

Maxis NGBB infra already everywhere in Peninsular Malaysia...just the coverage is limited...most likely, coming to Taman housing area...selected village area..

Do note that Maxis NGBB has better landed homes coverage than TIME Fibre. Even the infra is available...which company would take the risk to build in area where most people already have TM fibre infra...DP box install behind terrace house would just collect dust...also, if you subs Maxis Fibre 30Mbps...u get 38Mbps for download speed in Maxis NGBB infra...not much info..but, you get better treatment since it Maxis own build network..1Gbps speed you see advertise in Maxis website...Made available exclusive to Maxis NGBB infra...for now, want 1Gbps & above..need subs to TM nut..also come with ONR setup...

I would in heartbeat to switch if they come to my taman...i would tell my neighbour also...that Maxis Fibre in Maxis own build fibre network is much better in speed & also better ping...

One ada bola another tadak bola

Ha ha ha ha ha ha...... in your dreams?

Okay.

How to use 9TB per month?

Krik.... Krik.... Krik.....


Rindu zaman Gobind!

when 300Mbps 69.90 only talk

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https://soyacincau.com/2023/07/30/tm-releas...adband-pricing/ - TM -release-rao-2023-hsbb-pricing-msap-may-not-reduce-broadband-pricing
... According to TM’s new RAO, they have set tiered pricing and the wholesale charges is only cheaper with higher monthly volume. On the lowest tier of 0-499,999Mbps, TM is charging RM8 per Mbps/month versus RM2.55 per Mbps for the highest tier of 9,000,000Mbps and above. That means providers with low monthly volume (less than 500Gbps) would have to pay RM800 for 100Mbps, while providers that can commit to a minimum of 9Tbps per month will only need to pay RM255/month for 100Mbps. ....
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Wholesale pricing vs retail pricing

In case you’re wondering why the wholesale 100Mbps cost is higher than what retail customers are paying at the moment (e.g. 100Mbps for RM99/month or RM129/month), you’re not alone. Take note that broadband providers will only subscribe to the required HSBB wholesale bandwidth according to their average total utilisation. For example, if a provider has just ten 100Mbps customers, they will not subscribe 1Gbps bandwidth as not all customers will be fully utilising their bandwidth at all times. If the peak concurrent utilisation is only 300Mbps, they would only need 300Mbps with slightly more headroom as an extra buffer. .......

For an example and calculation sake, the above news article says Maxis Fiber has 600,000 Fiber subscribers. Let's say Maxis Fiber buys all it's broadband capacity from TM HSBB Wholesale and it's subcribers have an average 100Mbps Fiber plan, Maxis Fiber will need to buy wholesale a broadband capacity of 20Tbps per month, ... ie 600,000 X 100Mbps divided by 3 = 20,000,000Mbps = 20Tbps, .... which is priced at RM255 per month for 100Mbps by TM HSBB Wholesale.

So, this means the new 2023 MSAP by MCMC/Fahmi and RAO by TM HSBB Wholesale of RM255 per month per 100Mbps will likely apply to most telcos or ISP = it's likely that subscribers can expect lower/cheaper Fiber plans in Sep 2023, especially from the major Fiber telcos like TM Unifi Fiber, Maxis Fiber, Celcom-Digi Fiber and Time dotcom.
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Other country reduce price

Here increase

Topkek

Under the new MSAP issued by the MCMC in February 2023, this year’s mandatory HSBB wholesale price for 100Mbps is RM254.64/month and it is a 50.5% reduction from RM515/month under the 2020 MSAP rate which is still applicable today. According to MCMC’s schedule, the wholesale rates will continue to decline with 100Mbps costing RM217.65/month in 2024 and RM186.21/month in 2025.

As we’ve highlighted from TM’s new RAO, the wholesale rate of RM255/month is only applicable to access seekers that can commit to a whopping 9Tbps a month. If an existing access seeker is utilising less than 4Tbps a month (e.g. 1.5 to 3.99Tbps), 100Mbps would cost them RM585/month, which is higher than the current MSAP 2020 rate of RM515/month.

https://soyacincau.com/2023/07/30/tm-releas...adband-pricing/

TM still has to double the speed for their packages according to the new MSAP . more or less . access seekers may face problems to stay competitive.

i am ok with the contract, gib me a very fair price n speed i can sign up to 10 years also no problem

with wayang fahmi as minister i can expect only speed upgrade which is useless

ltr dream come true like in 2018

lets continue dream on fahmi will suddenly become gobind

With FxxxMi, we don't get the expected cost down - 50% .

That's not true many terengganu n kelantan area like tat. Cos vote bulan. Is fact

Despite tiered pricing, TM says all fibre broadband players will enjoy lower HSBB wholesale price with latest RAO

https://soyacincau.com/2023/07/31/tm-rao-hs...cing-msap-2023/

soyacincau cepat pancut
meanwhile dnb 5g charge rm30000/rm22000 per gbps

downgrade la.

unifi thread is currently talking about 300mbps unifi basic at rm119/month

fk man, shouldve waited a little bit longer, i am tied to swu 2.0 300mbps for rm129

dont know can go request swu 3.0 not

already kena contract, mana boleh downgrade la

Downgrade penalty only RM200 if I am not wrong.

sadly because of monopoly, certain ISP is not allowed to expand to landed area that already has Unifi.

This post has been edited by soul_gamerz: Jul 31 2023, 02:29 PM

I understand nothing from that tl;dr

Someone spoonfeed me in layman term please.
Rm:speed price

torr....ent

both are not, that’s the problem.
and lousy services on top. I have issues with TM provided router where connections regularly dropped daily. i called TM and solution they gave? you need keep rebooting everytime it happens until forever. toppest kek.

you want to pay for the installation and equipment yourself? EG router and gateway, telephone?

not exactly true.
here some example. why we didnt see dual provider everywhere? because once those area already have established infrastructure, the new comer were less motivated to deploy their infra there. dont forget they need to compete with cellular service too
allo:

unifi:


allo:

unifi:


This post has been edited by zerorating: Jul 31 2023, 01:43 PM

Everyone migrate to starlink soon

My Time does not have contract. even with upfront fee its way more cheaper.

My building story time

since 2010 start, never have fiber line

people forced to used streamyx

then covid happen, at around August 2020, worked out with time fiber to run line
actually see the worker and machinery run fiber line to the building
everyone rejoiced

then hear, getting JKR approval, , then hear needing to connect to a nearby apartment
then Mar 2021 com agent no where to be found

then Allo come in offer city broadband through their powerline fiber line
then May 2021 comes, and see Allo techie come lay line to each level

building mgmnt contact time agent from 2020 to 2021, say JKR approval not yet
last last that agent also no pickup fone

okay lor Allo ma Allo lor
but see that the the system is private IP range

Saw the Allo technie @ May
but then Allo also delayed.... news out on Sep, that there is a delay in getting switch/ parts etc till 2022!!!

first time, then Allo...


then not long afterward, a moth later or so, TM Unifi come swoop in and so i got that instead
really rooting for time fiber

now the building have 2 supply
TM and Allo, some picked allo cause it has 30mbps @69.90, cheaper than TM 100mbps

I end up upping to 300mps in mar 2022

oh ya what i meant was for landed properties..but my last housing area do have both Allo and TM Unifi..My new house not far from my last house only have Unifi and when i contacted the Allo agent, they say probably Allo wont expand there because already have Unifi.

Another stories i heard around is that TIME is prohibited to serve some landed properties because of you know laa..that's why TIME mostly cover high rise building

This post has been edited by soul_gamerz: Jul 31 2023, 02:34 PM

= eg Maxis Fiber, Celcom-Digi Fiber and Time dotcom (for condos).
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So, it's quite certain that most Fiber Internet subscribers will enjoy lower prices in Sep 2023, ie not higher.
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UPDATE: .......

https://www.lowyat.net/2023/304508/fahmi-fa...rnet-september/ - Fahmi: Cheaper Internet Prices Are Definitely Coming In September
The price drop will be in line with the adoption of the MSAP. - BY JOHN LAW AUGUST 1, 2023

Can't wait.
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Drop 1% also drop. Case can close as Fxxxmi said target dicapati.

MCMC to review RAO published by TM
According to MCMC, they will review the RAO that was recently published by TM and will also seek clarification from the telecommunications giant to understand the basis and rationale of their tiered pricing approach adopted.

other telcos such as CelcomDigi, Maxis, U Mobile, Time, Allo and YTL Communications, do not apply a tiered pricing and most of their wholesale pricing for fibre access are either on-par or lower than the MSAP 2023 rates.

https://soyacincau.com/2023/08/02/tm-higher...-mcmc-response/