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 Why CKD cars are having so bad quality?

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TSpiscesguy
post Jul 29 2023, 08:20 PM, updated 3y ago

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Why CKD cars are having so bad quality?

They forgot to hire QA engineers??😂
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post Jul 29 2023, 08:22 PM

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Actually not that bad la.
But when we malaysians heard "CKD" straight away assume the worse

Like how Toyota Corolla Cross owner with their ruler measuring all the gaps

That's crazy. Might as well use the ruler to measure their 2inch cock
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post Jul 29 2023, 08:22 PM

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Cos of bolehland mindset:
- ala kadar la, sengat sikit bukan mampos pun
- lek lu, sap kok lu
- bukan kete i, buat baik2 utk apo
- kerja susah2, gaji sama, baik kerja relax

Anymore to add? There are few more, but cant recall.
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post Jul 29 2023, 08:28 PM

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Not sure which car you are talking bout but for certain cars like Mercedes, their ckd has been documented to be of better quality than the CBU which is from Africa
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post Jul 29 2023, 08:33 PM

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Which brand?

Most are decent. Just that Malaysians expect too much because they are paying with 9 years loan.

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post Jul 29 2023, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jul 29 2023, 08:28 PM)
Not sure which car you are talking bout but for certain cars like Mercedes, their ckd has been documented to be of better quality than the CBU which is from Africa
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How about compare to CBU from Germany?
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post Jul 29 2023, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(caviars @ Jul 29 2023, 08:33 PM)
Which brand?

Most are decent. Just that Malaysians expect too much because they are paying with 9 years loan.
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No wonder Malaysian QA standard is so low. 😂
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post Jul 29 2023, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jul 29 2023, 08:22 PM)
Actually not that bad la.
But when we malaysians heard "CKD" straight away assume the worse

Like how Toyota Corolla Cross owner with their ruler measuring all the gaps

That's crazy. Might as well use the ruler to measure their 2inch cock
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Same. Honestly don't give a fuck is the gaps are not aligned. As long don't get lemon unit it's fine
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post Jul 29 2023, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Jul 29 2023, 08:20 PM)
Why CKD cars are having so bad quality?

They forgot to hire QA engineers??😂
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Kenapa peduli, janji kita dapat $$$..

There's TONs of parasite in the whole CKD supply chain... Tunggu makan gaji je....
In the name of automative development...

Biggest is UMW cause 50% of malaysia auto market (toyota & perodua).... Bloated organization...

Recent safety issues also say OK to use .. mana boleh pakai OH..


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post Jul 29 2023, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Jul 29 2023, 08:36 PM)
No wonder Malaysian QA standard is so low. 😂
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You get what you pay. Most cars here are "emerging market" model.


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post Jul 29 2023, 08:46 PM

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Coz Ckd made by Malaysian or Bangladesian

Sendiri tau hasil kerja

If ckd japan then u know Japanese take their work seriously
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post Jul 29 2023, 08:48 PM

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Japanese cbu workers :

“We must work hard. We must focus in our work. We take pride in our products and must deliver excellent quality. Only then, we can enjoy our remuneration for the hard work done. We must aim to be more hardworking than our other Japanese car plants”

Ckd workers:

“Rilak lah bang, buat apa nak keje ni. rilak lah, nanti boleh buat. Letih lah ni, mari meh tido sekejap kat bilik stor, boss takde ni. Eh tengok awek kilang cun tu, bess lah dapat kongkek dia. Syok. Jom lah, mari pegi kantin minum teh dan makan kuih lapis. Tak payah keje kuat ni, kerajaan nanti tolong. Buat apa keje kuat ni? Baik sambil buat assembly dan soldering, aku tengok awek kilang, boleh kahwin lebih”

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as someone work in automotive chip assembly, the chip is as good as the operator attitude.

no matter how good the engineers are, at the end run production operators yang jaga.

just now the x90 thread everyone say china car design right? but if any of the chip malfunction especially cars now with all the electronics system even more chances it will breakdown

i can give you some hint about the quality here. byd and geely currently returning chip because defect.

i am qualifying for tesla chip, and boy that tsmc die that they use giving so much problem. project delay and delay.

and for fellow /ktard, future tesla that u buy may have chips that i qualify. kek, your hand in the mercy of the operators here.
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post Jul 29 2023, 09:05 PM

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Msian work ethics = pantang di cabar
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post Jul 29 2023, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Jul 29 2023, 08:48 PM)
Japanese cbu workers :

“We must work hard. We must focus in our work. We take pride in our products and must deliver excellent quality. Only then, we can enjoy our remuneration for the hard work done. We must aim to be more hardworking than our other Japanese car plants”

Ckd workers:

“Rilak lah bang, buat apa nak keje ni. rilak lah, nanti boleh buat. Letih lah ni, mari meh tido sekejap kat bilik stor, boss takde ni. Eh tengok awek kilang cun tu, bess lah dapat kongkek dia. Syok. Jom lah, mari pegi kantin minum teh dan makan kuih lapis. Tak payah keje kuat ni, kerajaan nanti tolong. Buat apa keje kuat ni? banyak banyak, pasti jual. Baik sambil buat assembly dan soldering, aku tengok awek kilang, boleh kahwin lebih”
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post Jul 29 2023, 09:08 PM

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pls list the problem LOL
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post Jul 29 2023, 09:08 PM

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Depend on the company QA check.
Even if buatan Malaysia but the company is Japanese sure Kena QA check kaw kaw. Hard to pass

But if Malaysian.. cincai la . Janji jalan

This post has been edited by Koranshita: Jul 29 2023, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jul 29 2023, 08:22 PM)
Actually not that bad la.
But when we malaysians heard "CKD" straight away assume the worse

Like how Toyota Corolla Cross owner with their ruler measuring all the gaps

That's crazy. Might as well use the ruler to measure their 2inch cock
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But but but.... Toyotas are generally considered to be highly reliable vehicles.
Often top lists of most reliable cars, are said to last longer than nearly any other brand, and rarely break down.
If you're looking for reliability, Toyota is hard to beat.

Maybe cos it no more Toyota but UMW? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Jul 29 2023, 08:34 PM)
How about  compare to CBU from Germany?
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For cheap cars like c class and E classes even S class all are ckd and our CBUs are African CBUs usually at the early phase of introduction of new models
Only Germany CBUs are those AMGs one man one machine, where we do not CKD so can’t be compared
So far my CKD Mercs are doing ok but heard some are facing electronics issues. These components are from Germany so probably it is similar overseas.
My Bimmer is doing ok only a few parts like tie rod some having issues but again are part issues from Germany

Our Malaysia Mercedes assembly back then was the first in the world to assemble S class out of Germany. Yes the first and only back then. That was how good we were. As time goes on other countries caught up
If I’m not mistaken, our Porsche CKD is the only one out of Europe as well. I think it is currently the only one

This post has been edited by kkk8787: Jul 29 2023, 09:24 PM
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post Jul 29 2023, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jul 29 2023, 06:52 PM)
Cos of bolehland mindset:
- ala kadar la, sengat sikit bukan mampos pun
- lek lu, sap kok lu
- bukan kete i, buat baik2 utk apo
- kerja susah2, gaji sama, baik kerja relax

Anymore to add? There are few more, but cant recall.
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- Srew longgar sikit takpe, department lain akan baiki

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