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TSVirlution
post Jul 18 2023, 11:11 AM, updated 11 months ago

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Anyone change before?
China bulb very cheap, Narva seems like good product, at least branded and got big heatsink.

Easy to install?
did the bulb it last?
blinding other driver or not?
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post Jul 18 2023, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jul 18 2023, 11:13 AM)
reflector headlight or projector headlight with auto leveling?
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Projector headlight, not auto leveling

Philips Ultinon range looks ok as well....

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post Jul 18 2023, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 18 2023, 11:30 AM)
HID is illegal and glaring, LED is legal
so not sure why people still go for HID

but buy LED, stick to reputable brand, it last longer
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yup... thats why I am still using halogen 4300k bulbs

I did look in to HID conversion, but didnt go down that path as dont want to be an idiot
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post Jul 18 2023, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Jul 18 2023, 11:59 AM)
what are your objectives in converting from halogen?

Got to take note that even if you want to buy well-known brands like P, O etc., you will straightaway notice that NONE has E rating. Do share with me if you found 1.

If you really are serious to convert, start check the dimension published for the LED bulb; HxWxD and especially extra focused on the electrical terminals part. Then compare the size with the space and cover/cap at the back of your headlamp assembly.

If the LED blubs can't even fit inside the assembly, no need to even start thinking to buy.
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What is the E ratings? what are the ratings? need to look in to this.

good tip on dimensions...
I also worry that the bulb with the heat sink and all cannot fit in or cannot close the dust cap afterwards
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post Jul 18 2023, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Thebestscammer @ Jul 18 2023, 12:12 PM)
at least you understood the statement not like that retard noos.  doh.gif  most of the time from opposite traffic its from suv and bigger cars too since they are taller or something. some of the taller vehicles also like to come very close to me from the back and then kena blinded as well when look in the mirror.
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I find car at the back not so bad compare to car at the side due to the light disperse pattern.... many SUV and those big 4x4 like hilux etc, headlight already dem kaw high and blinding
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post Jul 18 2023, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(eds2 @ Jul 18 2023, 02:01 PM)
4300k led

hujan can see road
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4300k is halogen bulb.
even no hujan also cannot see road but off the lights then will notice the darkness around
halogen is no good.... compared to my other car with HID, so nice.

but pasang high beam I can see very thing, keep high beam stock colour temp


LED bulb is 5800-6500k
I think 6000 above is too blue already, keep to lower range better.
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post Jul 18 2023, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Jul 18 2023, 02:05 PM)
Its actually E mark. Has not seen any on sale anywhere that got this mark yet. Even Philips MY website says their LED offerings does not conform to ECE. Halogen models all have their "Product Description -->  Homologation ECE" status as YES, while LED models all marked as NO.

Philips Automotive Lights MY
JPJ stated in their public website that car lights must conform with ECE ruling listed, as below

JPJ Technical
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Looking at Philips WhiteVision Ultra 4200k specs, it's Homologation ECE but the Philips Crystal Vision 4300k does not have Homologation ECE

Also very strange that the specs only states its for High Beam, meaning if use for low beam, will the life span be effected or will melt the housing due to heat?

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post Jul 19 2023, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 19 2023, 08:34 AM)
if this is your case
only 2 cause if u ask me
1. your headlamp is faded
2. stick with more reputable bulb like narva

don't cheap and buy bosch...it's not that good eventhough it's the same everything
i know that because recently 1 side of my bulb blew...so i decided to change it....decide to try narva
RM25 each very expensive but damn, there is an obvious difference
so much until i decide to buy another one and change the other side
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my headlights kilat kilat... like my car, even engine bay.

I usually stick to branded, Phillips, Orasm or Narva stuffs.... of the course, sometimes the hardware shop dont have the ones I wanted so try cheaper japanese brand (but probably chinese knock off) bulb before, but there were crap. Never use bosch before.

RM25? Bulbs are like over RM150 for the pack usually including parker bulbs.
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post Jul 19 2023, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 19 2023, 07:33 AM)
enlighten me how a bulb type can blind people. is it about color?
to me, even a normal cheap yellow bulb annoys me at the dark.
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Factory fitted HID have a glare shield as the output is a lot higher, while halogen bulbs dont have.

So when people modify the headlights to HID, but did not include the glare shield, it ends up blinding on coming car or so....
Some people tune the headlights lower to compensate but most dont or dont know about this.

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post Jul 19 2023, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 19 2023, 07:26 AM)
This doesn't look like a Narva packaging
Better you just get the real Narva in Narva packaging.  Not that pricy also.

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Looking at phillips ... I prefer lower temp, 6000k probably too blue for my liking and invite police kacau during block.
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post Jul 19 2023, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 19 2023, 09:58 AM)
Then you should get Phillips.

Phillips are usually slightly below 6000k
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Ultinon Essential is 6500k

Ultinon Pro is 5800K

have to find cheap source with good reputations
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post Jul 19 2023, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 19 2023, 10:19 AM)
No ballast bruh
How JPJ gonna catch?

It's just simply a change of bulb
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JPJ ok to bullshit out, especially projector headlights....

but police give you fine, you go court settle/dispute yourself....
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post Jul 19 2023, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Gen000 @ Jul 19 2023, 02:57 PM)
color temp have anything to do with brightness ?
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brightness is the lumens....

colour temp is is measure in temp (Kelvin)
I prefer to stick to below 5000K

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Many car buyers believe that yellow lights penetrate fog better. But, the reason is something else. You now know that blue light falls right in front of our eyes. When we see any object in blue light, it appears fuzzy or unclear with a blue-tone around it. It is a phenomenon called “glare”. According to a study, blue light is often the reason behind driver complaints of discomfort glare. Blue or white light against the snow or fog can be glaring for the eyes and it can make you tired soon. When you are driving through snowy roads, the white lights can tire you as well
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post Jul 20 2023, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jul 19 2023, 05:05 PM)
Normal car using BULB , can just use LED? I mean plug & play direct?
My wife 10yrs old myvi bulb feels very dark, not sufficient lights in roads without lamp post
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if you are not into the looks just want normal light, go use those like Philips extreme vision plus or Orasm NightBreaker 200, like 30~50% brighter then normal cheap halogen bulb the mechanic or SC will install for you.

talking about looks and functionality, once you dabble into higher colour temp, the same bulb will look not as bright as these normal bulbs due to how our eyes see the wavelenght and need higher lumens
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post Jul 20 2023, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jul 19 2023, 05:43 PM)
if your car is using H4 bulb, just change back existing H4.... dont bother going LED unless you hand itchy, there are cooling fans in the bulb might cause interference, too white, police kacau, etc..

this is good, Night Breaker 200, standard 12v, 55W bulb

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post Jul 20 2023, 03:12 PM

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novasight cheaper.... will look at it. no experience with this brand
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QUOTE(bigmac999 @ Jul 20 2023, 03:16 PM)
depends on what u want
ive used both novsight and philips

novsight is good if u doint care about beam pattern or if u have a projector headlight
philips will match or improve your beam pattern but not as bright as novsight at the same price level
philips lasts longer
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I ordered this since its like 50% cheaper then philips.... buang or cannot fit also not losing much money

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post Sep 12 2023, 10:20 AM

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I have been using the novsight LED bulbs for months already....

Feedback,
seems to be better than my halogen bulb, however it is not as good as my other car with stock HID.

I had look around trying to see if its blinding other cars or not, including putting my other car in front of it and driving around the car or towards it. Its not blinding as my car got projector style lights.

Light dispersion, the light seem to disperse to the left, like the nike swoosh being flip 180. Good for looking at house number at night.
I tried to adjust the headlights angling (there are some screws on the headlight casing) had angle it as low as possible or as high as possible, play with the bulb Left/right but cant do much due to the angle/direction the bulb need to go into the housing.

I can't see rain puddles on the road until splash on them when it is raining. I can see the water on the road, but not sure if its puddle or just wet road, so have to drive slower.

If there are no cars around and it is totally dark, it perform pretty good. If it is not too dark and many cars with HID about, I cant see much due to the light temp/colour.

Can hear the fan whining sound. Cant lock the bulbs in the housing properly, but the plastic dust cap keeps the bulbs in place. the heat sink becomes hot, but no problem so far.

Cheaper and better then using those 4000~4300K halogen bulbs.
If you use those standard yellow halogen (this is probably the best) and value for money, just not to nice to look at.
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Wattage: 72W/Pair
Lumen value: 10000LM/Pair
Voltage: 9-32V
Color temperature: 6000K

I bought these Novsight bulbs one year ago, now hand itchy want to buy another product to use cause think maybe this would be even more brighter. Dunno how they calculate the power as the voltage range seems dem huge

*Voltage: 9-18V DC
*Power: 60W
*Lumens: 12000LM/Pair
*Color: 6500K WHITE

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post Sep 4 2024, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Sep 4 2024, 12:17 PM)
What car????
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old junk car with projector headlights

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