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 Official LYN FIA Formula One World Championship V4, Malaysian GP-1 Kimi,2 Kubica,3 Heikki

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WhitE LighteR
post Dec 10 2007, 12:21 PM

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WTF is going on. I stop watching F1 for a while and now i heard they banning engine developement for 10 year !!! Are they f***ing insane or what~~ ! What the hell a motorsport is for if not as a testing ground for further racing technology doh.gif Its like giving a death blow to an already sick F1 motorsport.
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post Dec 10 2007, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Dec 10 2007, 12:25 PM)
err cool down bro.... FIA is not banning lar, freezing is the correct term. Engine is one portion of an F1 car performance.

Teams can still develop aero, electronic and tyres technology.
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Thts just semantics. Aero, electronics and tyre technology goes only so far. Engine development is the one that makes the difference in my opinion. And stopping 10 years of development in engine technology is just plain dumb. A lot of thing can be done in 10 years.

QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Dec 10 2007, 12:31 PM)
It's fair to say the FIA is saying that if you aren't a top team, we won't make an example out of you.  shakehead.gif

And as for engine development, it's about time. Time for more fuel efficiency and testing out 'greener resources.'
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How can u develop more fuel efficient engine for racing application if they weren't tested in races for reliability?? And what do you mean greener resources?? Stuck some algae base fuel in the tank and hope it runs on an engine design for petrol?? shakehead.gif

QUOTE(BuFung @ Dec 10 2007, 12:47 PM)
about the freeze of Engine.. I agree about what FIA do..  team can spend the money/time to develop more re-use energy and more green energy than keep increase the RPM oft he Engine..

as u can see.. Japanese Car in 2litre engine are more powerful than some US car @ 5-6litre engine...
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What u mean green engine and "reusing" energy?? And fyi, there already IS an engine limit set by FIA which is at 19000 rpm. No engine manufacturer may go above this.

A japanese 2 liter car is more powerful because its using force induction to boost the power. Either by means of turbo charge which is popular in japan or supercharge which is preferred by western. And u cant compare US build 5-6 liter engine with japanese engine. First reason to be is that the US car manufacturer cant build fuel efficient engine for shiat. All they wanted is to sell this cars to american consumer which looks down anything that is not v8 and above 5liter and mare a grrrrr~~ sounds when it goes. If you really wan to compare you need to compare German build cars with thier japanese counterpart. Alto they still need abt above 3 liter to achive the same power as the japnese 2 liter, they do it without force induction. And they corner just as well too.

Which brings me to my point again. Why the 10 year ban/freeze??? Its not like hybrid and fuel cell cars going to take motorsport anytime soon. At best they going to start of in consumer cars first and then as the technology matures it will slowly sip into more faster sports cars. They the FIA got more chance to go fuel efficent spree with diesel fueled engine than hybrid and fuel cell looking at the development pace of green technology now.

And I'm not alone against this issue...
http://digg.com/motorsport/F1_Bans_Engine_Developement_WTF

This post has been edited by WhitE LighteR: Dec 10 2007, 01:37 PM
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post Dec 10 2007, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Dec 10 2007, 02:03 PM)
of course you are not alone againt the engine freeze..  but we are not alone support the Engine Freeze... 

Formula One is a Technology leading Sport.. what developed in the sport in the past .. some of it use in the consumer car now..  why have to do it the other way round?
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Car manufacturer makes more faster car to win races and get that technology into supercars. From disk brakes, ceramic brakes, launch control etc. All this makes the car goes faster or stop faster and were develop, yes on track first then to consumer cars. But you cant expect to take a green engine concept and stick it into a formula one car. Coz a green engine is meant to be green. Not go fast. Yes u probably get better millage etc.. But can u imagine looking at 22 prius racing each other on and eco friendly tyres doh.gif Its like living a nitemare. Im not againts development of greener technology. Just do it outside first please. Than once its capable of at least a decent horse power figure u can start talking abt integrating it into motorsport. Not forcing motorsport development into justifying green technology research. That is not what they are suppose to do. Coz thats similar like taking a rule in a religion and trying to find a scientific reason to justify it, where is its suppose to be the other way round.

Instead technology advancement such as the KERS which is much touted by FIA can be develop and implement alongside current engine technology. Then as years past, regulation concerning engine efficiency can be further enforce as a rule to further improve engine capability to develop similar power at a lower engine capacity like what has been done when they swicth from v10 to v8 and lowered the engine capacity. Not killing it off all the sudden.
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Guys... i want to ask. If im staying in Puchong, whats the best way to get to SIC on race day?? Thanks

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