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 Water heater died on me last night, Recommend me a replacement brand?

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mushigen
post Jul 16 2023, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 16 2023, 10:16 AM)
Read so many electrocution stories. Abit scared dy. Better replace. What's 900myr over my son's life u know what I mean?
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If electrocution is your concern, please check your DB to see if you have 10mA RCCB installed for every heater. Else, it doesn't matter which SIRIM certified brand you choose as the risk of upcar is still high.
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Jul 16 2023, 10:23 AM)
Get one of the Schneider RCBO and install in your fuse box. Test it monthly.
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Iinm, most shops only sell 25A 10mA Sneider RCBO. Supposing he's using 2.5mm² wires, will there high risk of wiring overheat especially if the wires are old?
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post Jul 16 2023, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Jul 16 2023, 11:51 AM)
Think 2.5mm² is considered too small for water heaters? They're rated at about 20A. If you use at maximum temperature, I think the wires will overheat.

25A is the maximum current but a 10mA leakage should trigger the trip.
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2.5mm² isn't too small. I checked with an M&E consultant. Continuous current should not exceed 20A which is within the spec of most water heaters. Plus, if paired with 20A mcb/rcbo, it protects against overcurrent.

There are 2 issues here - over current and current leakage. A 25A overcurrent protection for 2.5mm² wires looks unsafe to me, regardless of its sensitivity.
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post Jul 16 2023, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 16 2023, 02:02 PM)
Actually another sub-issue, DB box no space to put in a 2-module width RCD per WH circuit..

2.5mmsq cannot pair with 25A OCPD. it need a 20A MCB limiter.
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Maybe that's why he mentioned Schneider RCBO. I was also trying to find a 20A 10mA Schneider RCBO but all I can see is 25A version sold locally. My electrician said 20A version needs special indent.

My house uses 2.5mm² conductors for WH and Aircon so I am particular about 20 vs 25A overcurrent protection.

 

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