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 What's the current 5G status in Malaysia?

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post Jul 9 2023, 10:20 AM

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I think no harm to port out to try other telco, just dont get con into buying phone and sign contract …

Can always port back after 2 months …

I agree the “premium telco” is marketing and branding Maxis invested to build last decade and they indeed live up to the standard and quality back then… but i think ever since mid of 2010-2020, with much agressive pricing plan by competitors in throwing price … Maxis also join in the party so quality begins to go south ever since … even is slightly better quality than competition and few Ringgit higher as compared to competition … it is barely noticeable quality improvement … so their premium status degraded as well …
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post Jul 12 2023, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(budi1413 @ Jul 10 2023, 04:28 PM)
5g is good for home broadband tho

for those without fibre connection like me
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Make sure you do not sign contract.
When more people uses 5G, it will congest and your home broadband will become narrowband.
Thing about mobile broadband it is on heavy sharing basis … not to mention DNB 5G shared by all operators in Malaysia … I used 4G home broadband before when it was launched .. first 1-2 yrs okay … sign contract … then can see speed deterioted so bad it is not useable - no refund … so just sit there to see light blinking only
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post Jul 16 2023, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(peja5081 @ Jul 15 2023, 10:30 AM)
Now maxis realised they won't be 2nd 5G provider for current time🤣. Even there will be soon, DNB already conquer 80% coverage.

Due to lack of alternatives, Maxis will sign 5G access agreement with DNB

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...-with-dnb/79789
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If the second wholesale network starts building, it will still be 2 years behind DNB in term of coverage. DNB today is 60% and promise to be 80% end of the year excluding inbuilding.

Backtrack statement by the industry, DNB service appears cheap in short term but in long term it will be expensive since no commitment on price revision in agreement for long term (contract is 10 years), and historically price per GB reduces every year, that is how telco provide more GB for customers with same subscription cost. With DNB as monopoly, contractually GB same price for next 10 years, so either user getting same GB for next 10 yrs with same price or user pay more if need more GB. We know usage will always increase since more contents, so indirectly it will make users pay more for data in long run.

I think all telco know this that is why insist on second wholesale provider to prevent DNB monopoly … based on agreement, if second wholesale network comes up, telco can exit anytime not bind by 10 yrs contract, this ensure competition that DNB will commit to drop price when the time comes and not doing price control.



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post Jul 16 2023, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 16 2023, 09:39 AM)
Not really understood technically or contractually but some telco can give 5G at rm30-35 is a great effort. Coverage of cz still developing and hopefully at a faster rate.
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Correct most people is short term minded and cannot see beyond 3 mths. What is cheap in front of eye is all that matters thats why alot of ppl went into bad debt …
However i believe business does not run this way, as telco becomes a customer and DNB is seller, they will calculate and check the agreement in details… if telco cant buy cheap from DNB, they cant sell to their customers cheap …
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post Jul 17 2023, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Jul 17 2023, 09:21 AM)
They just need to revise the contract to Yearly basis. Dont know who is the idiot put 10yrs contract.

DNB is better off own by gov & running at cost price zero profit.

As for second wholesale, i hope is run by not Ericsson. Dont wanna depend on one supplier.
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I think DNB and MOF (zafrul) + MCMC initially on upperhand as a monopoly, and telco was pushed to the edge with no choice, so even if they put 100 years and super expensive they would have no choice but to sign. It is a perfect extortion scenario orchestrated by MOF & MCMC. Telco will merely channel cost to end users.

DNB will be the main engine to launder money out to fund party election and politicians luxury lifestyles.

It is a perfect heist. Indirectly taking rakyat money to finance politicians.

MOF (aka Zafrul) miscalculated PN government will collapse and telcos (except TM and YES) will gang up to delay the signing until after election ...

Zero profit is a very subjective term, what makes you think DNB can't bubble up their operational cost like giving multi billion overpriced contracts to cronies and their own senior management, luxury lifestyle to bring up their operational cost to make zero profit?


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post Jul 29 2023, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(prosibu @ Jul 29 2023, 11:12 AM)
This will be changed if 5G is host by DNB only
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Exactly last time telco choose where to build based on their sub demographic… with DNB, they lost that option, DNB will build wherever they want and convenient … so if one bad, sub no option to port to other telco that serves better … all will be bad together …
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post Jul 29 2023, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(prosibu @ Jul 29 2023, 04:08 PM)
Pro

1) U can just choose which one cheaper..
2) If no coverage.. everyone will complain for u instead of current one (port out lar if ur telco no coverage)
3) If site down, everyone will complain for u. U no need worry ur telco small or what
4) everyone will share same spectrum (at the moment). Unlike currently umobile/unifi slower due to less slectrum than big 3.
5) less investment and less TNB fee to pay ... Imagine current 5 operator having site at mid valley. If DNB build the site, pay 1 tower fee to mid valley management and electric bill to TNB
Cons
1) telco might pakat to increase the price of the plan... This one need government to monitor.
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Interesting concept but also can be seen in a more realistic way …

#2&3 are doublesided swords, DNB doesnt face end users they dont give shit since is monopoly. Expect gov do the right thing? TM is best example, shit wont be given, still numerous place no port in KV, complain is useless… TM offering fibre for 20 years!!!

#5 So less profit to TNB, less dividends to EPF and Khazanah, so less profit to government and KWSP contributors. If the saving is to no benefit to end consumers dont mean anything … why want to help them save TNB bills?

#4 i agree more efficient it seems. Like communist model. No competition - towards one goal. This model works if been managed correctly however whatever that can go wrong will be go wrong. Malaysia is not the best country when it comes to governance so despite theory is perfect on paper, i personally skeptical on the actual implementation will not work right … this model seems failed in South America and South Africa …

Last. Telco for past 2 decades been dropping price year over year for more MB and GB, new tech comes as free to user (2>3>3G>4G, volte etc) without extra cost … but after DNB offering 5G, Celcom digi webe now charge extra RM10 to get 5G. So because DNB model, telco now works together to hike price … it is worse not better … telco more reluctant to let their users to 5G cause dont want to pay more to DNB. It will slowdown adoption of 5G …

 

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