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DSV4600
post Jun 28 2023, 12:47 PM

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Didn't test the Toyota Corolla Cross GR Sport version in Malaysia, but have tried many of the different Sport/GR versions of Toyota in Taiwan.

It's really a different breed of car with the special tuning & suspension setup.
If I'm buying my next Toyota, I would always go for the GR version if possible. You get Toyota's legendary reliability & sports feel.
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post Jun 28 2023, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 28 2023, 12:54 PM)
Thanks for the post. That's good to know.

FWIW my priorities these days are not so much about handling and performance but reliability and problem-free (that's why Toyota is at the top of the list for me now). However, it's good to kill 2 birds with one stone.

I will need to recheck on the Corolla Cross GR Sport when I'm in the Toyota showroom next round. I just visited the Toyota showroom about 3 or 4 weeks ago and I didn't actually pay attention to the Corolla Cross since my main interest is the Corolla where the vehicle is already sold out throughout Malaysia at this point of time, awaiting new Corolla model to launch likely next month. I did briefly look at the normal version of the Corolla Cross when I was at the showroom but since it's not my interest, I didn't pay much attention to it.

The current price of the Corolla Cross GR Sport is RM142k, and if there's promotion just like the other versions of the Corolla Cross, I'd seriously look into it although my main choice is still the Corolla. Will see how the upcoming new model of the Corolla stack up once it's launched.
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https://www.toyota.com.tw/ - Sharing for your interest, since I'm no longer buying any new cars in Malaysia, but I'm a big fan of Toyota Taiwan, and planning my next Toyota purchase in the next 2 years.
The GR specs there are basically the highest specs + hybrid + suits me because I prefer a sportier drive. So I find it really value for money.

That being said, if I were buying a car in Malaysia, I'd rather consider a Proton to get more value for money, however no brand comes close to Toyota's quality levels & after sales service levels.
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post Jun 28 2023, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 28 2023, 01:36 PM)
Thanks. Just had a look at the Toyota Taiwan website and noticed they have Corolla GR Sports there unlike here where we only have normal Corolla. Our Corolla here is not even a hybrid, and they have 2 additional versions of the Corolla (hybrid and GR Sports). Lucky for Taiwanese, or unlucky for Malaysians! I was informed that the upcoming new model of the Corolla will be just a facelift with the same old engine, not even a hybrid. We are surely behind other countries when it comes to getting new models with updated technology and features.

For the Corolla Cross, at least Malaysia still have the GR Sports version. It's just that it's only in petrol engine rather than hybrid engine as Taiwan is getting. I've briefly investigated on the hybrid vs NA engine in the Toyota Corolla Cross, and from the looks of it, the difference is not exactly significant especially in performance and power. The hybrid version is just slightly better when it comes to smoother acceleration at low to moderate speeds in comparison to the non-hybrid. Also, slightly better fuel consumption with hybrid perhaps. Apart from that I presume the Corolla Cross hybrid and non-hybrid drive fairly similar.

Proton used to be good value about 10 years ago. Now I don't think it's good value anymore as most of their vehicles are close to RM100k and exceeding that with the Geely rebadge vehicles. I owned the Proton Preve Turbo before and the highest spec only costs RM69k if my memory doesn't fail me. It's value for money but in terms of quality it's still not quite up to the mark with the older Protons. Perhaps newer Protons such as X50 or X70 have improved but then the price is much higher.
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Well, can't do much about Malaysia because the currency depreciated so much. Back in 2010, TWD10 = MYR1. Now in 2023, TWD10 = MYR1.50. Imagine if you just converted all your savings to a foreign currency instead of putting in FD. You would make way better returns on your money. So you'll end-up with lower spec models in Malaysia vs. Global Trends, because the manufacturers still want to maintain their profit margins.

The thing about hybrids these days is it's very similar priced vs. normal ICE engines. So you get the additional fuel savings for your wallet without forking out extra at the time of purchasing your car.
A good in-between car until EV cars become a norm everywhere and the prices start trending downwards.

The reason why things costs so much in Malaysia these days is simple bro. Inflation, inflation, inflation.
However, it's also not a fair comparison between Proton Preve Turbo (C-segment sedan) vs. X50 or X70 (SUVs).
Wait for the Preve/Persona/Perdana replacements from Geely, then you will have a fairer comparison in terms of pricing.
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post Jun 28 2023, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 28 2023, 02:38 PM)
Noted on all your points.

Regarding the  unfair comparison between Proton Preve Turbo and X50/X70, it's just a general remark. During the older days, apart from Proton Perdana which is not meant to be sold to the public, the Proton Preve Turbo is the costliest vehicle. It's only when Proton went into joint-venture with Geely they have all these rebadge SUVs coming in, priced higher. We'll wait for the Preve Turbo's replacement, and as you have aptly mentioned, due to inflation everything is expensive these days so I don't expect the replacement to be at the Preve's price range.

The Preve Turbo's quality and reliability are not good. Although the relatively low price can be considered as value for money, the quality of the vehicle drags it down. Apart from the dismal performance of the CVT gearbox, it malfunctioned once and needed to be replaced within warranty period. Also, rattling sound in the interior.
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Let's wait and see the upcoming Geely-Proton sedan replacement models. Those should be good, since it's tried, tested & proven in Chinese market.
I have faith in Geely as their shareholder. Now it a good time to accumulate their stocks to make good money in the future.

 

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