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3000 in 10 days. Hmmmm........
Chery Omoda 5
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Jul 17 2023, 01:13 PM
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Jul 17 2023, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jul 17 2023, 01:13 PM) great price and features. hopefully, UMW will learn more on this. Bermaz as well for the outdated 100k km capped warranty |
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Jul 17 2023, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 17 2023, 02:31 PM) great price and features. hopefully, UMW will learn more on this. Bermaz as well for the outdated 100k km capped warranty They are terms to give you this 10 year warranty, in these 10 years mostly you will need to commit to their service center for servicing & also parts replacement which they will earn the profit back. You don't have the options to go aftermarket, if found anything not original they can just void your warranty. This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 17 2023, 01:52 PM |
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Jul 17 2023, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 17 2023, 01:52 PM) They are terms to give you this 10 year warranty, in these 10 years mostly you will need to commit to their service center for servicing & also parts replacement which they will earn the profit back. You don't have the options to go aftermarket, if found anything not original they can just void your warranty. for ppl like me who stick with authorised SC even for >10 yrs old car, it's fine |
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Jul 17 2023, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 17 2023, 01:52 PM) They are terms to give you this 10 year warranty, in these 10 years mostly you will need to commit to their service center for servicing & also parts replacement which they will earn the profit back. You don't have the options to go aftermarket, if found anything not original they can just void your warranty. the cx5 diesel owner had engine blown out at mileage 110k km and plenty of GB broke when hit >100k km. Bermaz said no warranty cover cz u already exceeded the capped mileage. Inb4 dont buy Mazda Diesel and please send for ATF change outside. I will take the prolong warranty in this case cz ease of mind.This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Jul 17 2023, 03:08 PM |
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Jul 17 2023, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jun 25 2023, 11:11 AM) Here's my 2 cents worth. Established car makers generally follow a set design language and this is something that is honed and refined over the years. Unless of course there is a sudden new design direction as what BMW had during the Bangle era. It will be a risk, the public will either love it or loathe it. The Bangle 5 and 7 series were hated at launch but those designs were refined over time. For China cars, their design language is still rather new. They went from making shameful copies of established makes to now, designing cars for the new IT age. Since they have a very short history and heritage in car designs, they are able to explore all sorts of new angles based on their market research without fear of detracting from the past (their past design language is actually what they prefer to leave behind). For the Japanese, they have been usually conservative, depending on evolution rather than revolution so, they will continue to be like this till someone at the very top wakes up and charts a new design direction for the company. They usually cannot change immediately as they need to adhere to their heritage and history. I love this reply. lowpro liked this post
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Jul 17 2023, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 17 2023, 01:52 PM) They are terms to give you this 10 year warranty, in these 10 years mostly you will need to commit to their service center for servicing & also parts replacement which they will earn the profit back. You don't have the options to go aftermarket, if found anything not original they can just void your warranty. they can give you 10 years or 1 mil km mileage but when you go and claim cound be a different storythey may honour the defect, but if no spare parts and have to wait months for the repair then what is the point of warranty? just like proton x70 and x50 initially launched time. many was stranded with cars in work shop for 6 months or peugeot and some other brands where people have to wait for spare parts for months. hahaha |
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Jul 17 2023, 03:21 PM
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China car stock with DCT gb, small displacement Turbocharge engine configuration with 1.5T or 1.6T. Their Premium combo with 2.0T and 8-9 gear auto torque converter.
What a pity Japanese manufacturers cant fight on this and only suffice with CVT gb and single size 1.5T engine throughout all models offered. |
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Jul 17 2023, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 17 2023, 03:21 PM) What a pity Japanese manufacturers cant fight on this and only suffice with CVT gb and single size 1.5T engine throughout all models offered. bcuz they know many Malaysians will still queue up to buy their cars regardless of gb/engine offered, a sad truthThis post has been edited by General_Nic: Jul 17 2023, 04:00 PM |
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Jul 17 2023, 05:20 PM
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Jul 17 2023, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Jul 9 2023, 06:04 PM) Took the chance today to visit showroom for the Omoda 5 here in Alor Setar. The dealer was still new and even the shop sign was still using the previous shop sign (it was a Peugeot branch) amazing review, like the part, ur legs being the longest part,lolAnyway, I digress. Saw the Tigo 8 Pro first but my focus was the Omoda 5 which was only available in H variant in dual tone white body and black roof. Unfortunately test drives car need to make an appointment directly with the dealer (despite me registering for one in their main website). So have to suffice with just the display model. I was greeted by a SA named Bok and he showed me the car and was trying to convince me how Chery was unlike it's previous tenure and how they're trying to change the local perception of the brand. Only time can tell t be honest lol. The exterior looks very much nicer in person and the crystal like paint job is a nice touch. I was a bit hesitant about the front bumper look but I have grown to accept it. Side view is very much a sporty SUV with that rear slope line. Interior wise is very futuristic and miles ahead from Proton X50 and new HRV. The HU/Driver Display has no creaking noise when touched, so that's good. I am 175cm Height with my legs being the longest part. Seating position was adjusted to my driving position and thighs were properly supported and driving view is good based on first impressions. There's a dedicated USB-A port at the safety camera sensor at the top of the windscreen for dashcam. So that's a bonus. The awkward thing was front passenger gets USB-A and USB-C port but the driver gets a cigarette charging port? Rear passengers gets shorter seats but my thighs were still getting support albeit there's still some areas that feel like being afloat. The rear seats are fixed and can't be adjusted to further lean back but it's not too upright like the Bezza or other cars. Rear passengers also get rear air-cond vents. (Please excuse my hairy legs The transmission/exhaust pipe hump is not overly big but a middle passenger might not feel comfortable seating there. Boot area looks big with a very flat boot lip. Also has a power outlet First impressions overall, it's a very promising car with no real flaws except for their after sales support which only time can tell TBH. Their warranty supports looks good on paper but have to check their T&C first and foremost. That's all for my first impression. Will update again for my test drive impressions |
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Jul 17 2023, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jul 17 2023, 04:13 PM) they can give you 10 years or 1 mil km mileage but when you go and claim cound be a different story Yes, that is also another weakness if their spare parts availability is low. If you buy from outside you can get aftermarket options or maybe get china supplier to ship in faster.they may honour the defect, but if no spare parts and have to wait months for the repair then what is the point of warranty? just like proton x70 and x50 initially launched time. many was stranded with cars in work shop for 6 months or peugeot and some other brands where people have to wait for spare parts for months. hahaha |
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Jul 17 2023, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 17 2023, 11:21 AM) China car stock with DCT gb, small displacement Turbocharge engine configuration with 1.5T or 1.6T. Their Premium combo with 2.0T and 8-9 gear auto torque converter. japanese know they cant fight on price or tech anymore with Cina manWhat a pity Japanese manufacturers cant fight on this and only suffice with CVT gb and single size 1.5T engine throughout all models offered. so they win in their batch and also for reliability as the saying goes, ur toyota can drive 20 years still nothing rosak |
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Jul 17 2023, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jul 17 2023, 06:16 PM) japanese know they cant fight on price or tech anymore with Cina man That why they never bother to give a latest engine to our region back then. Keep on getting a same engine but refinement "tuning" words when doubt it really have it. Recent Honda City in Thai get 1.0T while we as usual retain the engine as per previous model.so they win in their batch and also for reliability as the saying goes, ur toyota can drive 20 years still nothing rosak Back then, we were told our fuel quality so-so by their Japanese head hence cant introduce GDI configuration. Heck, Korean, VW and rest no issues to put that on their engine coming here. |
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Jul 17 2023, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 17 2023, 08:10 PM) That why they never bother to give a latest engine to our region back then. Keep on getting a same engine but refinement "tuning" words when doubt it really have it. Recent Honda City in Thai get 1.0T while we as usual retain the engine as per previous model. You never hear VW carbon build up issue before?Back then, we were told our fuel quality so-so by their Japanese head hence cant introduce GDI configuration. Heck, Korean, VW and rest no issues to put that on their engine coming here. |
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Jul 17 2023, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jul 17 2023, 08:23 PM) Normal for GDI for all model and all will kene for GDI configuration. The latest VW Gen 3 come with both Direct and Port injection hence preventing this deposit. Same as Lexus and new Toyota Camry engine.Send workshop for rm500 for walnut blasting cleaning then This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Jul 17 2023, 08:34 PM |
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Jul 17 2023, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 17 2023, 08:10 PM) That why they never bother to give a latest engine to our region back then. Keep on getting a same engine but refinement "tuning" words when doubt it really have it. Recent Honda City in Thai get 1.0T while we as usual retain the engine as per previous model. I'd rather have old technology that's reliable rather than new technology that has potential to break down. Perhaps that may be the reason most Japanese vehicles especially Toyota rarely have breakdowns or major failure in parts and components. Most car manufacturers have offered turbocharged engines as an option to natural aspirated engines but Toyota have stuck with NA and hybrid without any turbocharged option. Everything from engine to gearbox transmission (with Toyota) may be old or ancient technology but it works, and it's quite a refined drive. At least they have dropped the 4-speed transmission for a CVT that had contributed to a more refined acceleration. The power and quick throttle response at low to moderate speeds in real world driving, it's rather good without much to complain.Chinese vehicles are packed with the latest technology and they are spearheading electric vehicles all over the world. It's all new technology so reliability wise no one can tell but over time it will surely improve, just like NA engines when it all first started back in the day. Someone has to start it and get the ball rolling first, and the Chinese are ahead in this area when compared to conservative Japanese. I believe NA, turbocharged and hybrid engines are currently at the final few stages before they are completely replaced by electric vehicles in the next couple of years so manufacturers may have stopped their R&D on the current(old) tech and start concentrating or advancing the new electric technology which appears to be the global trend now. Back to the Cherry Omoda 5. It's surely looking good and hopefully it will give the Japanese a run for the money. As I've said earlier it's only after-sales and reliability that are the main concerns but looking at the wonderful early reception with 3000 bookings after few days, looks like the confidence of the people are sky high. Or perhaps the vehicle offers unbeatable value when compared to the competition. |
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Jul 18 2023, 07:29 AM
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enjoy ur new ride
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Jul 18 2023, 07:51 AM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jul 17 2023, 10:11 PM) I'd rather have old technology that's reliable rather than new technology that has potential to break down. Perhaps that may be the reason most Japanese vehicles especially Toyota rarely have breakdowns or major failure in parts and components. Most car manufacturers have offered turbocharged engines as an option to natural aspirated engines but Toyota have stuck with NA and hybrid without any turbocharged option. Everything from engine to gearbox transmission (with Toyota) may be old or ancient technology but it works, and it's quite a refined drive. At least they have dropped the 4-speed transmission for a CVT that had contributed to a more refined acceleration. The power and quick throttle response at low to moderate speeds in real world driving, it's rather good without much to complain. Back then yes there are many like u, its ok old tech, old engine, old gb but it is reliable. That why UMW be like TQ to all, they can keep old stock parts to our region. Back then I mean circa 2008-2015 era, even Airbag also cut to 2 while rival already went to 6. Chinese vehicles are packed with the latest technology and they are spearheading electric vehicles all over the world. It's all new technology so reliability wise no one can tell but over time it will surely improve, just like NA engines when it all first started back in the day. Someone has to start it and get the ball rolling first, and the Chinese are ahead in this area when compared to conservative Japanese. I believe NA, turbocharged and hybrid engines are currently at the final few stages before they are completely replaced by electric vehicles in the next couple of years so manufacturers may have stopped their R&D on the current(old) tech and start concentrating or advancing the new electric technology which appears to be the global trend now. Back to the Cherry Omoda 5. It's surely looking good and hopefully it will give the Japanese a run for the money. As I've said earlier it's only after-sales and reliability that are the main concerns but looking at the wonderful early reception with 3000 bookings after few days, looks like the confidence of the people are sky high. Or perhaps the vehicle offers unbeatable value when compared to the competition. Now with power of online, youtube, some manufacturers keep giving good features, thats teach masses about new tech on car and safety in general. People no longer like UMW spec car (check their most car sales vs rival here). At abroad is different story cz Toyota give good features cz no UMW. This case see Altis vs Mazda 3 and Civic sales here. Those China car company will make new attraction to the masses in the future due to overwhelmed features, new tech and can give DCT gb for relatively affordable car price range. Hopefully those Japanese can step up their games and put good features here. |
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Jul 18 2023, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 18 2023, 07:51 AM) Back then yes there are many like u, its ok old tech, old engine, old gb but it is reliable. That why UMW be like TQ to all, they can keep old stock parts to our region. Back then I mean circa 2008-2015 era, even Airbag also cut to 2 while rival already went to 6. I somewhat agree. However, the message I'm trying to convey particularly on "old technology" with NA engines is they may have reached a plateau since electric driven vehicles will be taking over soon. The technology of NA engine is already matured and in my view, not much to improve upon. With regards to other new tech or fancy features that are available in other cars that are not available in Toyota, that I'm not sure but I don't look at those things too much. As far as I things are concerned, it's already complete in terms of driving aids and safety features. I didn't check on the sales figures but the higher sales of Honda and Mazda vs low sales of Toyota may be due to other factors such as interior or exterior design of the vehicle, more powerful engines and different handling characteristics etc. rather than features or new technology. I'm not sure what features and technology are you referring to though.Now with power of online, youtube, some manufacturers keep giving good features, thats teach masses about new tech on car and safety in general. People no longer like UMW spec car (check their most car sales vs rival here). At abroad is different story cz Toyota give good features cz no UMW. This case see Altis vs Mazda 3 and Civic sales here. Those China car company will make new attraction to the masses in the future due to overwhelmed features, new tech and can give DCT gb for relatively affordable car price range. Hopefully those Japanese can step up their games and put good features here. |
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