Linked any better ?, been trying Jobstreet without much luck
Linked any better ?, been trying Jobstreet without much luck
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Jun 23 2023, 09:07 AM, updated 3y ago
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I already build in profile in Linked, but hardly tried. I guess I am old fashioned, kept on trying jobstreet. You guys, what is your success rate for Linked? I also have this issue about Linked, it has no salary expectation. so I may apply for a position that has salary expectation way lower than mine. also if the applicaiton is rejected, does linked inform you the status? |
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Jun 23 2023, 09:21 AM
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I drop jobstreet long ago. For entry level would not matter I think. But management and above networking in linked seems better for me.
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Jun 23 2023, 09:35 AM
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Especially if you are applying US job ..LinkedIn most important
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Jun 23 2023, 09:37 AM
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Jun 23 2023, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jun 23 2023, 09:37 AM) no la ..US company they will view your profile thru linkedineven malai kuli job ..your 2nd interview might be with US or Canada folks some interviewer will preview your profile before interbiu This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jun 23 2023, 09:41 AM |
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Jun 23 2023, 09:53 AM
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Jun 23 2023, 10:06 AM
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Jun 23 2023, 10:12 AM
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If you have the skill and experience, companies and head hunters will contact you for offers. No need to hunt for job.
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Jun 23 2023, 10:21 AM
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Jun 23 2023, 11:48 AM
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LinkedIn main purpose is not on the job application page, but more for you to connect with people that are hiring. The job application page have low success rate but I have gotten multiple jobs from the connections I've made on the site.
Recruiters and hiring managers will post the hiring positions there and you reach out to them directly. When your profile is good, the hiring managers and recruiters will reach out to you directly via LinkedIn message. A proper profile picture with good description on your job is important. Highlight impact, not job scope. Bad example: 1. My role in XXX company is to write software for XXX client 2. Manage client relationships 3. Developed XXX tool Good example: 1. Developed software for XXX client which generated XXX revenue in 2022, growing business revenue by x%. 2. Managed and grew client size from 5 to 10 in a year, increasing/defending sales by X%. 3. Developed XXX tool and successfully roll out to XXX teams, enabling cost saving by X%/saving X manual labour hours a year. All these numbers can be ballpark, as long as it's not too far off from reality. Just don't make up fake stuff then you will be getting better responses. Example of words you should use in your cv: https://hwpi.harvard.edu/files/ocs/files/he...etter-guide.pdf Another piece of advice is spam apply whichever job you think it’s worth trying, don’t have to hesitate and pick only those you are comfortable with. Just be sure to manage the conversation properly and reject if it doesn’t fit you. Don’t ghost the person contacting you - everyone deserve to have a closure, be professional. Salary wise you can always filter when they give you the first call. Have a range in your mind, on the first call ask for their budget range to filter. Don’t filter yourself out first from the job post itself. You’re supposed to build a huge upper funnel and filter when they reach out, let the recruiter filter you from their pile first, it’s their job. If you filter yourself out then you’ll be missing out on opportunities. If you’re building your profile correctly, LinkedIn is the place where employer look for you, not you look for employer. Jobstreet on the other hand is where employee look for employer. Most MNC in LinkedIn and SME in Jobstreet too. This post has been edited by LovelyPotato: Jun 23 2023, 02:55 PM |
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Jun 23 2023, 12:20 PM
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when job market is not good, whatever job search engine is also no good.
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Jun 23 2023, 12:24 PM
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Recruiters like to use linkedin. Just have presence and updated profile will do. No need to post cool stories. Kinda cringy
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Jun 23 2023, 12:32 PM
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Linkedin mostly for recruiter company or head hunter
Jobstreet mostly direct with the employer Above are based on my experience. No good or bad but I hate linkedin, waste my time. For me jobstreet is much more better. In fact I got 2 offer at the same time within a week of application in jobstreet. |
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Jun 23 2023, 01:38 PM
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Past three jobs have been recruiter or company director approach me via LinkedIn. Each time, jump 12%-25% salary increase.
Every week, I’m receiving direct messages from recruiters looking for new hire. Around 2-3 year mark is when you can open your profile and entertain offers. As mentioned, keep your profile updated with highlight to achievements. you can definitely get interviews through LinkedIn. |
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Jun 23 2023, 02:08 PM
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Depends on region.
Malaysia employers has reduced presence in LinkedIn due to the fee. It is more expensive than Jobstreet. Also less friendly interface if you ask me. Singapore employers essentially spam the Linkedin like nobody business. If your attempt is with applying job so far, we might need to look into your resume and also experience to see the reason of failure. If you say nobody headhunt, then it might really got to do with your experience... |
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Jun 23 2023, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ Jun 23 2023, 11:48 AM) LinkedIn main purpose is not on the job application page, but more for you to connect with people that are hiring. The job application page have low success rate but I have gotten multiple jobs from the connections I've made on the site. thanks this is quite helpfulRecruiters and hiring managers will post the hiring positions there and you reach out to them directly. When your profile is good, the hiring managers and recruiters will reach out to you directly via LinkedIn message. A proper profile picture with good description on your job is important. Highlight impact, not job scope. Bad example: 1. My role in XXX company is to write software for XXX client 2. Manage client relationships 3. Developed XXX tool Good example: 1. Developed software for XXX client which generated XXX revenue in 2022, growing business revenue by x%. 2. Managed and grew client size from 5 to 10 in a year, increasing/defending sales by X%. 3. Developed XXX tool and successfully roll out to XXX teams, enabling cost saving by X%/saving X manual labour hours a year. All these numbers can be ballpark, as long as it's not too far off from reality. Just don't make up fake stuff then you will be getting better responses. Example of words you should use in your cv: https://hwpi.harvard.edu/files/ocs/files/he...etter-guide.pdf Another piece of advice is spam apply whichever job you think it’s worth trying, don’t have to hesitate and pick only those you are comfortable with. Salary wise you can always filter when they give you the first call. Have a range in your mind, on the first call ask for their budget range to filter. Don’t filter yourself out first from the job post itself. You’re supposed to build a huge upper funnel and filter when they reach out, let the recruiter filter you from their pile first, it’s their job. If you filter yourself out then you’ll be missing out on opportunities. If you’re building your profile correctly, LinkedIn is the place where employer look for you, not you look for employer. Jobstreet on the other hand is where employee look for employer. Most MNC in LinkedIn and SME in Jobstreet too. any tips on interview? |
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Jun 23 2023, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jun 23 2023, 02:53 PM) Generally you need these 3 things to score an interview:1. Good introduction, write and practice a 3 minute introduction that talks about your background. Talk about your name, how you arrived where you’re at (your career journey), and what and how you contribute to your company (while highlighting your skill set) For example, I’ve been working in xxx area for the past 5 years, specialising in XXX. My role is primarily to understand stakeholder requirement/pain point, liaise with the right stakeholder/help them solve their problem. Then highlight impact, like help them save time/money and etc. Instead of talking what you do specifically in a job, tell them from a strategic view and give them a story of your journey. Don’t need to go into details, then end the introduction asking if there’s any part that they need more details. (If you don’t have a strong story, then can use the grandmother way - talk about your job 1, job 2, job 3, why you move from one job to another) - don’t have to talk all the way to fresh grad, just last 3 jobs should be fine. 2. Prepare 5 examples that you can use to answer almost any question with STAR format. STAR is Situation, Task, Action, Result. For example, at a time where there’s a crisis (describe the crisis), what is needed to be done to fix the situation, what you did, and then highlight the outcome (customer happy/saved x amount of money/improved company efficiency etc.) Generally the question be like tell me a time where you face a tough situation/tell me your strength/tell me a time when you work with a tough stakeholder/one time you failed/behind schedule. Develop your story to cover as much scenario as possible. 3. Interview is a two way street. Ask questions. Don’t just let the interviewer ask you questions. More interaction = better. From my experience if interviewer talk more than me, I tends to get the job offer. Do some research about the role/interviewer and ask questions that might fit their role. In fact a hard question is even better, like what’s their thought on something that’s industry specific (make them think). Depending on your role and your interviewer, you should design the question along the line. Mid/low tier manager should be more cater around their expertise (tools the team use and what’s the direction on their management), higher executive level/C level should be more strategic questions (ie what they think of the economy of X country/industry trend). This post has been edited by LovelyPotato: Jun 23 2023, 03:36 PM |
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Jun 23 2023, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jun 23 2023, 09:07 AM) I already build in profile in Linked, but hardly tried. if you're old fashion, you could walk in and ask directly. I mean like seriously if it works, it works right?I guess I am old fashioned, kept on trying jobstreet. You guys, what is your success rate for Linked? I also have this issue about Linked, it has no salary expectation. so I may apply for a position that has salary expectation way lower than mine. also if the applicaiton is rejected, does linked inform you the status? when I was young,for the entire month I tried walked in askking for jobs - around 60-70 companies back then and gotten 4-5 offers. The bosses are impressed by efforts because i took the initiative to reach out, instead of those waiting behind emails. I won't bore you with successful stories but I just wanted you to know, IT WORKS and bosses likes people takes initiatives. Don't listen to naysayers eh those are for low level jobs blah blah etc. Because it could be a turning point for you y'know? It's your life, take it into your own hands and do something, don't wait This post has been edited by wktang: Jun 23 2023, 03:58 PM |
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Jun 23 2023, 05:03 PM
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If you're on linkedin, headhunters should look for you.
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Jun 24 2023, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jun 23 2023, 10:21 AM) No need to put whole cv on LinkedIn, just name of company worked for, position and how many years tenure. I don't even put my responsibilities or achievements, waste of space.Headhunters do not have time to read CV. They will just call you up and ask a few questions to get to know you better. |
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Jun 24 2023, 11:51 AM
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somehow i feel a picture in your linkedin profile helps, recruiter can see what you look like.
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Jun 24 2023, 12:26 PM
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97% of my job offers, interviews comes from Indeed, Jobstreet, MyFuturejobs and other job portals. I applied tons of jobs thru Linkedin and not a single company called me to invite for interview. In certain situation, there's 1 company that advertise vacancy in Linkedin and Jobstreet. The recruiter called me and mentioned they received my resume from Jobstreet. So I have no idea how Linkedin works so that's why I deleted the account. I didn't get the benefit of using the platform This post has been edited by xpole: Jun 24 2023, 12:34 PM nightzstar liked this post
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Jun 24 2023, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jun 23 2023, 09:07 AM) I already build in profile in Linked, but hardly tried. I have my profile in LinkedIn. I guess I am old fashioned, kept on trying jobstreet. You guys, what is your success rate for Linked? I also have this issue about Linked, it has no salary expectation. so I may apply for a position that has salary expectation way lower than mine. also if the applicaiton is rejected, does linked inform you the status? I didn't apply for any jobs. Job agents come look for me. If I like the job scope, then only apply. I let the agent help me negotiate the salary package. The agent can negotiate better than me 😁 |
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Jun 24 2023, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jun 23 2023, 09:07 AM) I already build in profile in Linked, but hardly tried. Most of my interviews in the last 5 or 6 years were from LinkedIn. Some I applied (when I was unemployed) and some headhunted by recruiters.I guess I am old fashioned, kept on trying jobstreet. You guys, what is your success rate for Linked? I also have this issue about Linked, it has no salary expectation. so I may apply for a position that has salary expectation way lower than mine. also if the applicaiton is rejected, does linked inform you the status? That said, I am hardly active on LinkedIn. It's becoming more like FB (which I have deactivated years ago), some posts are just ridiculous. It used to be a great place to discuss ideas, keep up with current tech and all that stuff. |
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Jun 24 2023, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jun 23 2023, 10:21 AM) Headhunter dun need cv kinda shits to select good person, as cv is for those who are looking for job.Its totally different between a person who is 'looking for job' and a person who is 'headhunted by headhunter'. The latter is headhunted without the use of cv, but instead, through the use of results, performance, reputation and recommendations by ppl. |
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Jun 24 2023, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(xpole @ Jun 24 2023, 12:26 PM) 97% of my job offers, interviews comes from Indeed, Jobstreet, MyFuturejobs and other job portals. linkedin is used to headhunt for high level managerial or technical positions. don't bother "applying" for jobs listed there, but wait for headhunters to contact you.I applied tons of jobs thru Linkedin and not a single company called me to invite for interview. In certain situation, there's 1 company that advertise vacancy in Linkedin and Jobstreet. The recruiter called me and mentioned they received my resume from Jobstreet. So I have no idea how Linkedin works so that's why I deleted the account. I didn't get the benefit of using the platform |
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Jun 24 2023, 05:07 PM
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Jobstreet - U find job
LinkedIn - Job find u |
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Jun 25 2023, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(xpole @ Jun 24 2023, 12:26 PM) 97% of my job offers, interviews comes from Indeed, Jobstreet, MyFuturejobs and other job portals. Indeed and MyFuturejobs? I never heard of them b4I applied tons of jobs thru Linkedin and not a single company called me to invite for interview. In certain situation, there's 1 company that advertise vacancy in Linkedin and Jobstreet. The recruiter called me and mentioned they received my resume from Jobstreet. So I have no idea how Linkedin works so that's why I deleted the account. I didn't get the benefit of using the platform are they any good? |
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Jun 26 2023, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jun 25 2023, 04:06 PM) careful most job websites will farm for profiles then sell datathis is essentially how must headhunters survive and collect cv. profile and cv must be of quality, easy to scan, relevant industry terms and jargon. best customize to each job that you apply. |
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Dec 30 2024, 03:49 AM
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jun 23 2023, 09:07 AM) I already build in profile in Linked, but hardly tried. May I know which sector?I guess I am old fashioned, kept on trying jobstreet. You guys, what is your success rate for Linked? I also have this issue about Linked, it has no salary expectation. so I may apply for a position that has salary expectation way lower than mine. also if the applicaiton is rejected, does linked inform you the status? |
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Dec 30 2024, 02:25 PM
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Dec 30 2024, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(gyver @ Jun 23 2023, 10:12 AM) If you have the skill and experience, companies and head hunters will contact you for offers. No need to hunt for job. Yah, so I hear. Even being one of the best in my field also need to advertise in LinkedIn. However not all can afford you if being the best too, esp in MY. |
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Dec 30 2024, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jun 25 2023, 04:06 PM) MyFutureJobs is National Employment Portal under PERKESO and MOHR. They have Employment Services Officer that will support jobseekers to look for suitable vacancies and help to build up their resume without any charges.This post has been edited by nightzstar: Dec 30 2024, 04:11 PM |
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Dec 30 2024, 05:05 PM
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Linkedin is just a place for a bunch of hypocrites to flex their muscles. You can try Indeed, much more effective
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Dec 30 2024, 05:41 PM
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100% of my jobs got it thru jobstreet
linkedin wasted so much of my time |
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