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TSWatta??
post Jun 22 2023, 09:47 AM, updated 2y ago

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Hi guys, im planning to do some simple plaster ceiling design with LED tracklight and LED downlight like the attached photo.
Just a question, if i just turn on the LED tracklight without the LED downlight, would it be bright enough to light up the space like how L Box lighting is bright enough without turning on the LED downlights?
Also, do I use LED strip for the tracklight? I cant seem to find different spec with brighter LED strips though. Or do they use like T8 instead of strips in the tracklight?

Thanks!

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post Jun 22 2023, 10:06 AM

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1. Depends on how bright do you want. Different people, different interpretation of the 'brightness'. No right/wrong answer.

2. LED strip for the tracklight? Can.
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post Jun 22 2023, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(ileys @ Jun 22 2023, 10:06 AM)
1. Depends on how bright do you want. Different people, different interpretation of the 'brightness'. No right/wrong answer.

2. LED strip for the tracklight? Can.
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Im actually comparing to the brightness of L Box plaster ceiling design since i plan to do this design instead of L Box for easy maintenance.
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post Jun 22 2023, 05:42 PM

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LED strip can try look for COB strip with around 400 - 500+ LEDs. The more the better if you want brightness, and choose 4000k instead of 3000k

T5 tubes can work as well, and might be better maintanence wise

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post Jun 23 2023, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 22 2023, 05:42 PM)
LED strip can try look for COB strip with around 400 - 500+ LEDs. The more the better if you want brightness, and choose 4000k instead of 3000k

T5 tubes can work as well, and might be better maintanence wise
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Got it, great! Thank you very much!
Can the T5 tubes to recessed into the plaster ceiling so that from the bottom it looks just flat?
Or there are some casing which can fit T5 tubes for this purpose?

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QUOTE(Watta?? @ Jun 23 2023, 08:12 AM)
Got it, great! Thank you very much!
Can the T5 tubes to recessed into the plaster ceiling so that from the bottom it looks just flat?
Or there are some casing which can fit T5 tubes for this purpose?

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this i am not sure, might need to check with your contractor
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post Jun 23 2023, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 23 2023, 04:23 PM)
this i am not sure, might need to check with your contractor
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alright no prob, thanks man!
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post Jun 28 2023, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Watta?? @ Jun 22 2023, 09:47 AM)
Hi guys, im planning to do some simple plaster ceiling design with LED tracklight and LED downlight like the attached photo.
Just a question, if i just turn on the LED tracklight without the LED downlight, would it be bright enough to light up the space like how L Box lighting is bright enough without turning on the LED downlights?
Also, do I use LED strip for the tracklight? I cant seem to find different spec with brighter LED strips though. Or do they use like T8 instead of strips in the tracklight?

Thanks!
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Hi, how much do they charge you for the led strip include labor? Im planning to install 2 line of strips (plaster ceiling) n they quoted me Rm1k. Is tis normal?
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post Jun 28 2023, 02:39 PM

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Sorry to torpedo but I'm curious how much is the cost of the plaster ceiling work?
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post Jun 30 2023, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(SIEWBAO @ Jun 28 2023, 02:37 PM)
Hi, how much do they charge you for the led strip include labor? Im planning to install 2 line of strips (plaster ceiling) n they quoted me Rm1k. Is tis normal?
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is yours magnetic track light?? price include LED & casing?
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post Jun 30 2023, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 30 2023, 10:23 AM)
is yours magnetic track light?? price include LED & casing?
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If not mistaken, TS is not using magnetic track light but rather recessed aluminium profile.
These normally integrates LED strips which are not bright in nature, but are more for ambient lighting.

In my opinion, T5 cannot be fitted in ordinary aluminium profiles.
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QUOTE(JCDrew90 @ Jun 30 2023, 10:46 AM)
If not mistaken, TS is not using magnetic track light but rather recessed aluminium profile.
These normally integrates LED strips which are not bright in nature, but are more for ambient lighting.

In my opinion, T5 cannot be fitted in ordinary aluminium profiles.
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oh ya.. normally in TS picture, should use T5 instead of LED.. nowadays people like to use magnetic track or like your mentioned recessed aluminium profile either on ceiling/wall.. LED is cheap but the aluminium case & cover serve as diffuser at higher price ah.. =)
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post Jun 30 2023, 01:36 PM

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yup, im just using aluminium profile with high brightness COB LED Strip together with downlight&eyeball..
haven't completed my renovation yet though so cant really tell if the LED strip would be bright enough or not.. but i do have multiple eyeball to add brightness if i don't want to turn on the downlights
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post Jul 1 2023, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 30 2023, 10:23 AM)
is yours magnetic track light?? price include LED & casing?
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Led stripe with casing only.
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post Sep 24 2023, 11:17 PM

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Any update on TS or others who have used LED tracklights?

Any recommended brands for magnetic tracklights?
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post Nov 10 2023, 03:01 PM

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I'll leave an update here for anyone exploring this in the future.
LED strip used is SMD2835 120LED 24v with plaster ceiling aluminium profile.
The brightness is definitely sufficient, just the LED strip alone is brighter than my dowlight+eyeballs combined.
But please do note that if you want to use this set up, aluminium profile needs to be more than 1cm depth so that you don't get dark spots from the LED strip. Or else, you'd have to go with COB LED Strip which is lower in brightness but won't have any dark spots.

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Any 1 can advise what's the average lifespan of these LED strip? Would it be a disaster, say if we are going to replace it in the future?
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post Nov 13 2023, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Watta?? @ Nov 10 2023, 03:01 PM)
I'll leave an update here for anyone exploring this in the future.
LED strip used is SMD2835 120LED 24v with plaster ceiling aluminium profile.
The brightness is definitely sufficient, just the LED strip alone is brighter than my dowlight+eyeballs combined.
But please do note that if you want to use this set up, aluminium profile needs to be more than 1cm depth so that you don't get dark spots from the LED strip. Or else, you'd have to go with COB LED Strip which is lower in brightness but won't have any dark spots.

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Nice job, living room? the reason you feel the strip is brighter because its more evenly distributed and diffused for the entire room.
When you purchase, the strip case should already be design for this use, usually is 1.2cmx.1.2cm and with wing to be installed to the plaster ceiling. COB LED will not have the dark spots, worth the upgrade.
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post Nov 13 2023, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(GetUrAssKicked @ Nov 10 2023, 03:08 PM)
Any 1 can advise what's the average lifespan of these LED strip? Would it be a disaster, say if we are going to replace it in the future?
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LED strip have very long lifespan if the transformer is correct. Its important that you do not overload the strip to full power if you want longevity.
Usually is the transformer that only need replacement. In anycase, this strip can be replace as well if needed too.

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Its only the case that is permenantly installed.
TSWatta??
post Nov 14 2023, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(mrkang @ Nov 13 2023, 03:18 PM)
Nice job, living room? the reason you feel the strip is brighter because its more evenly distributed and diffused for the entire room.
When you purchase, the strip case should already be design for this use, usually is 1.2cmx.1.2cm and with wing to be installed to the plaster ceiling. COB LED will not have the dark spots, worth the upgrade.
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yup, living room and dining area, i chose 2835 120LED 24v with the deeper 1cm plaster ceiling aluminium profile as the LEDs are close enough to not show any dark spots, and since this is brighter than COB LED strip, i chose this instead to act/replace Lbox design plaster ceiling
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post Nov 17 2023, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Watta?? @ Nov 14 2023, 09:17 AM)
yup, living room and dining area, i chose 2835 120LED 24v with the deeper 1cm plaster ceiling aluminium profile as the LEDs are close enough to not show any dark spots, and since this is brighter than COB LED strip, i chose this instead to act/replace Lbox design plaster ceiling
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Hi Watta,

I Halim, also have the same interest as yours for my new house, from L-Box to LED strip. To be honest I do not have any knowledge of this and would like to request your support to advise me on this, especially on the technical aspect of using what type of LED, brand, etc2. Wondering if you have a time to help me?

Thanks in advance!
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post Nov 21 2023, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Huntsman241 @ Nov 17 2023, 03:56 PM)
Hi Watta,

I Halim, also have the same interest as yours for my new house, from L-Box to LED strip. To be honest I do not have any knowledge of this and would like to request your support to advise me on this, especially on the technical aspect of using what type of LED, brand, etc2. Wondering if you have a time to help me?

Thanks in advance!
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you can use the plater ceiling type aluminium profile like what shared by mrkang.
I personally used SMD2835 120LED 24v strip, but take note your profile has to be at least 1cm deep, or else you will have dark spots, or you could go with the COB type LED strip but these are slightly dimmer compared to the 2835 120LED 24v.
Just go to those lighting shop to see the LED strip then you would have an idea, tell them 2835 120LED 24v then they will show you.
Also, if you're doing squares like me, it should be a ring connection to the power supply so you would lose brightness towards the end of the strip, you'd get more even brightness
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QUOTE(Watta?? @ Nov 21 2023, 02:57 PM)
you can use the plater ceiling type aluminium profile like what shared by mrkang.
I personally used SMD2835 120LED 24v strip, but take note your profile has to be at least 1cm deep, or else you will have dark spots, or you could go with the COB type LED strip but these are slightly dimmer compared to the 2835 120LED 24v.
Just go to those lighting shop to see the LED strip then you would have an idea, tell them 2835 120LED 24v then they will show you.
Also, if you're doing squares like me, it should be a ring connection to the power supply so you would lose brightness towards the end of the strip, you'd get more even brightness
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May I know the total length of your LED strip for the "square" in the photo?

Planning to do the same, but the total length is about 15 Meter, not sure the ring connection method is sufficient to generate even brightness.

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QUOTE(J@son @ Jan 3 2024, 10:15 PM)
May I know the total length of your LED strip for the "square" in the photo?

Planning to do the same, but the total length is about 15 Meter, not sure the ring connection method is sufficient to generate even brightness.
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mine was about 12 meters, if you're worried about ring connection being insufficient, you can try using 2 power supplies at opposite corners and create L shapes from each corners, thus each power supply is powering 2x 3.75m strips
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QUOTE(Watta?? @ Nov 10 2023, 03:01 PM)
I'll leave an update here for anyone exploring this in the future.
LED strip used is SMD2835 120LED 24v with plaster ceiling aluminium profile.
The brightness is definitely sufficient, just the LED strip alone is brighter than my dowlight+eyeballs combined.
But please do note that if you want to use this set up, aluminium profile needs to be more than 1cm depth so that you don't get dark spots from the LED strip. Or else, you'd have to go with COB LED Strip which is lower in brightness but won't have any dark spots.

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Hi, can share how much charges to install this square LED strip lighting? Labor + Material
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post Jan 7 2024, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Watta?? @ Jan 4 2024, 08:04 AM)
mine was about 12 meters, if you're worried about ring connection being insufficient, you can try using 2 power supplies at opposite corners and create L shapes from each corners, thus each power supply is powering 2x 3.75m strips
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the problem is my place no plaster ceiling. Planning to use those aluminium profile/casing only, thus no place to hide so many power supply. some more thot of using dimmer also.

Now considering using those AC LED strip light + dimmer.
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Regarding plaster ceiling, are you guys concern about the long term health issues it poses?

Concerns I heard are the plaster ceiling has small fine particles dropping over time and we breathe the fine particles in everyday.

Not sure whether to install plaster ceiling or not in my new condo...dilemma confused.gif
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post Jan 16 2024, 01:46 PM

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Hi all,

Want ask for this design, is it necessary to have plaster ceiling?

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post Jun 10 2024, 11:22 AM

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since this thread on led stripe vs L box, I would like to know is there possibility whereby don't wan L box plaster ceiling, due to high cost but flat plaster ceiling but with the led stripe to be shine upwards and bounce back to bottom ?
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Hi. Can share your contractor for plaster ceiling if you’re in Klang Valley? Thank you

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QUOTE(ery22 @ Jan 7 2024, 08:35 PM)
Regarding plaster ceiling, are you guys concern about the long term health issues it poses?

Concerns I heard are the plaster ceiling has small fine particles dropping over time and we breathe the fine particles in everyday.

Not sure whether  to install plaster ceiling or not in my new condo...dilemma  confused.gif
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Really? So in the end, did you install or not?

 

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