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 why shopping mall car park size is kinda small?

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post Jun 21 2023, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Jun 21 2023, 05:11 PM)
now shopping mall car park space is designed for segment C and below, those segment D cars have a hard time park inside the parking space.

cars are getting bigger and yet car park spaces are getting smaller. laugh.gif
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Cause parking space is considered non-revenue generating space, unlike office/commercial floors. Only reason they're there is because Majlis Perbandaran/DBKL set the minimum requirement for it.

If they have to increase basement floors / upper building floors can get extremely expensive beyond certain threshold, so they kaokao cram everything as much as possible just to pass requirement.

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post Jun 21 2023, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 21 2023, 07:36 PM)
Is this how they really think? Surely damn sohai if they think this way. Each car carries 1-4 people who are going to spend money in the mall
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Used to work in a company providing parking solutions for buildings (think double decker car park machine, etc.). Single floor need to have higher height than normal but can sumbat double capacity.

Word is developer could remove 2 whole carpark floors and replace them with shopping mall floors vs design without the parking solution. The spending they made for the parking solutions must make sense somehow right to have that 2 extra commercial floors?

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post Jun 21 2023, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 21 2023, 08:07 PM)
From parking solution standpoint, that sales pitch makes sense.

Realistically speaking though, I don't think it really makes sense. If you have a parking problem (too many customers), then expanding parking size makes sense because that means there's more traffic and money flowing into your mall which helps keep your shops alive.

Expanding shops without expanding parking doesn't make sense because the inflow of customers remains pretty much the same but now spread out into even more shops. Which might kill some of your current tenants.
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Think of it this way. DBKL no. of parking requirement might not be the most optimal from a business perspective. Pretty sure the devs have a more accurate historical data on ideal no. of parking (for example optimally only 70% of DBKL's standard no. is occupied at most in any given time), so might as well make a space where you can collect long term rent.

Just my presumption though. There's also the matter of having extra basement floors / upper floors can lead to expensive costs beyond certain threshold, so it'd make sense if they did it not to cross that.
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post Jun 21 2023, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 21 2023, 10:25 PM)
I think if devs are really data oriented (which from my experience they are not). So many malls wouldn't be built in the same area, and so many malls wouldn't be dead malls now.

Malls like 1Utama has more parking than shops I think.
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Just sharing based on my short stint as a subcon. Devs usually listen to their consultants, but main cons are the least data oriented, old school dinosaur apek kind lol.

Need some developer ktard to chime in.

 

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