Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Grab biggest layoff since pandemic

views
     
Optizorb
post Jun 20 2023, 04:12 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,261 posts

Joined: Sep 2021
QUOTE(yeezai @ Jun 20 2023, 03:25 PM)
How much is the fare now ? Like cheap or exp ?I thought consumer pays the full amount and the company take a cut , the rest went to driver
*
the fare is very cheap these days during off-peak. and during peak period now the fare similar with previously off-peak fares..
many drivers unhappy cause really not worth driving these days, getting less than rm1/km..

but dont think as customer can enjoy benefit of cheap fares. cause these days due to rubbish fare, many drivers with funny attitude come out also.

drivers will sidai riders due to rubbish fare AND extremely far-pick up distance. Basically grab fuck TWO things up instead of one, 1) their revised fare structure and 2) their broken job algorithm. and these 2 issue becomes compounded worse with driver's unwillingness to drive, so in the end customer also suffer because have to wait super long to get driver willing to pick up, cause many previous matched drivers will cancel themselves or ask rider to cancel..

Common thing happening for those rider in ulu locations or going to ulu locations is this, many of them become desperate they willing to tell driver i will top up give you extra later so pls come and fetch me..

the other day i read one post on facebook, this person trying to get a driver for his wife to come home and it was around 1am.. the wife tried ordering grab for 1 hour also couldnt get any driver.. so he also desperate he join driver facebook group and asked for help who can fetch his wife home he willing to pay extra rm50..


yeah so thats the situation we are in now.. thanks to grab's incompetence.. previously before grab revised their fare structure from 70cents/km to now 25cents/km, the shitty job algorithm drivers still find it bearable because at least the fare could still cover the far pick up and whatever else.. now with 25cents/km and you combo with that shitty job algorithm.. many driver feel that grab taking 20% commission cut while providing a shitty app with shitty support/cs is too much.. so many quit/moved to other platform.
Optizorb
post Jun 20 2023, 04:21 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,261 posts

Joined: Sep 2021
QUOTE(alexandersuk @ Jun 20 2023, 04:12 PM)
It used to be in Google Play, until Grab reported the app for not having JPJ approval.
*
talk cock number 1 la you..

how grab can report, if grab really so power grab long time also report airasia/maxim/gojo for not fully complying with regulations la..

so how come the other apps still there and doing just fine..

also it is APAD who gives the approval/licenses, nothing to do with JPJ.
so this begs the question: why indriver cannot get APAD approval? because indriver dont vet their drivers/vehicles.. you drive waja also can register indriver. you got criminal history also can signup be driver..

also indriver's drivers dont need to comply with e-hailing regulations like 1) having a valid E-hailing Vehicle Permit (EVP), 2) having a valid PSV license, 3) having ehailing insurance 4) passing yearly puspakom inspection

tl;dr = indriver dont comply with APAD regulations hence got banned and removed from playstore for operating illegally. aka taxi sapu.


Optizorb
post Jun 20 2023, 04:38 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,261 posts

Joined: Sep 2021
QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 20 2023, 04:18 PM)
grab is sacrificing their own reputation build up so many years with this new fare, my friend who often grab user also kena many keluar pattern driver.

later charge extra, customer complain then grab suspend. Driver might as well cancel and ignore those non-profitable job to ulu place with 100% kosong out from that area.

Boss u still ada kayuh now kah?
*
i havent kayuh since jan this year when they announced the new fare structure.. cause that time also i could tell what a shitshow this would be already..

so now i read driver/passenger stories on fesbuk je.. and feel kesian to both driver and rider being put into this situation..

QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 20 2023, 04:21 PM)

They mau flush out AA ride and indriver but fail to do so, why need to compete low price with competitor, raise the fare reasonable rate and let driver untung, no need to compete low fare to kill off competitor like what they did to Uber. They have to live with competitor and compete with service, not price.
*
exactly this!

they could have maintained the prices, and keep the excellent services grab drivers have been providing to riders all these years.

Customers also can be assured when taking grab knowing their driver is a 100% regulations complying driver and is drug-free cause have to do yearly health check up for PSV license AND crime-free cause once you got pdrm kes you cant drive with grab..

Also number 1 thing grab have advantage over their competitors was in terms of CS. if got problem with driver, CS will reimburse. Action will be taken towards driver, so less hank panky going around. Driver will also be vary to do hanky panky because afraid of getting banned.

You left behind your iphone pro max also got very high chance you able to recover it! The grab driver willing to stop his car and find every inch of his car for your iphone.. You got luggage or carrying many stuff? grab drivers will turun kereta to help you load into car.. You put wrong stop or ask driver drop you off inside your condo also no problem small matter.. All these drivers willing to do it last time with no complaints..

these days? with sampah fare, grab drivers also dont give a fuck anymore if rider complain left something in the car. if lost then lost, driver say not my fking problem.
Oh you stay in condo put pick up point guardhouse but ask driver go pick you up from your block's lobby? Driver say fuck off i will wait at guardhouse you no come in 5 mins i will cancel the job.
Optizorb
post Jun 20 2023, 04:56 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,261 posts

Joined: Sep 2021
QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 20 2023, 04:48 PM)
nowadays i read the facebook group story like entertainment news, most of the time u can see rider vs driver where both party don't want to cancel and compete who is the first to cancel, some can drag until 12 hrs then only cancel, all this happen just because the driver want to save their CR in order to safeguard their incentive. laugh.gif

I watch some traveller video at Bangkok, there is 2 major ehailing player which is grab and bolt, bolt is cheaper 30-40% but service, cleaniness and car availability is way below par, quite often has to wait 30mins to get a ride for peak hour. If Grab thailand able to compete like this, why can't they do this here, once Grab revise their fare structure on January this year, AA also follow suit by reducing on same level with grab, it create a vicious cycle for ehailing industry.

TBH grab recruit too many drivers and did not train them well, they should have flush out those keluar pattern drivers to safeguard their service level, in this recent 6-12 months, i hardly hear any driver kena suspend except for sexual harassment case.
*
anthony loke also made things worse AGAIN.. now psv no need exam.. ehailing car extend from 10 years to 15 years. all this means more influx of new drivers for grab, thats why grab dont give a fuck about drivers. now their supply is easy to get.

he was the pundek who bring all this regulations in but then never see through that the companies out there FULLY comply with it..

only grab the one kecut bola and fully comply with gov regulations, the 2nd biggest ehailing AirAsia, many drivers dont even have EVP topkek... doh.gif


Optizorb
post Jun 20 2023, 04:58 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,261 posts

Joined: Sep 2021
QUOTE(yeezai @ Jun 20 2023, 04:34 PM)
Bro 25cents/km ? Wtf are they even thinking lol ,see the company goyang kaki while drivers doing all the hardwork + they needed to maintain their cars .And i believe transportation shouldn’t be cheap in the first place , look at it from other perspective.when they hike the petrol price every other things will cost more eventually.If grab is doing a price war to remain competitive then it’s killing both their drivers and company
*
really bro..

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5347474&hl=

nah give you real examples, you ownself see the distance and how much the driver get..
1.
user posted image

2.
user posted image

3.
user posted image

4.
user posted image

5.
user posted image

6.
user posted image

7.
user posted image
Optizorb
post Jun 20 2023, 05:10 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,261 posts

Joined: Sep 2021
QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jun 20 2023, 05:02 PM)
The fares are so cheap?
*
the ones i show above are when low fare + combo with grab's dog shit job algorithm.. thats what drivers will kena.. some utterly ridiculous stuff.. thats why these days a lot of case of driver ask/beg rider to cancel the job..

anyway for "normal" situation when the job algorithm is not behaving like sohai, nowadays the fare is like this..

not even rm1/km... so, you tell me bro..

QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jan 16 2023, 05:27 PM)
fuuuuuh naik genting damn cheap.

distance 36km. fare RM43 = driver earn RM34.40 to go up GENTING  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

user posted image

GPO to hill top fare RM11 = driver earn RM8.80  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
user posted image
*
QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jan 16 2023, 05:22 PM)
Update:

Collection of driver feedbacks from first day of new fare structure..

Jokes #1
Customer say she order everyday , first time dapat RM 19. Normal price RM 26-RM28.
23km +2km pickup total 25km =RM 15.20.
user posted image

Jokes #2
27km = RM19.70
user posted image

Jokes #3
29km = RM19.20
user posted image

Jokes #4
22km = RM12

user posted image

Jokes #5
34km = RM27.30
user posted image
*
This post has been edited by Optizorb: Jun 20 2023, 05:14 PM
Optizorb
post Jun 20 2023, 05:35 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,261 posts

Joined: Sep 2021
QUOTE(vassilius @ Jun 20 2023, 05:10 PM)
Why i don't see this app in Google play store?
*
QUOTE(vassilius @ Jun 20 2023, 05:29 PM)
It says not available in play store la... illegal ka aper?
*
QUOTE(vassilius @ Jun 20 2023, 05:30 PM)
Why can't download from Google play store?? Illegal? Is it even safe?? Sorry, too many scam shit going on, not gonna risk my money on this...
*
he already give you keyword.
QUOTE(alexandersuk @ Jun 20 2023, 05:29 PM)
You can nego price with driver and they wont ask you to cancel ride, unlike grab.
*
you know what is the act of nego price with driver essentially means right? it means kereta sapu which is illegal for both the driver and rider seeking such services, both can be held liable under the law.

so that should give you a clue why indriver is not on official stores..

you can see reason below why..
so have to download their apk if you want to use.

but use at your own risk la.. anything happen to you during the ride whether its accident or theft or left behind items, you practically have 0 recourse unlike grab.

QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 20 2023, 04:21 PM)
talk cock number 1 la you..

how grab can report, if grab really so power grab long time also report airasia/maxim/gojo for not fully complying with regulations la..

so how come the other apps still there and doing just fine..

also it is APAD who gives the approval/licenses, nothing to do with JPJ.
so this begs the question: why indriver cannot get APAD approval? because indriver dont vet their drivers/vehicles.. you drive waja also can register indriver. you got criminal history also can signup be driver..

also indriver's drivers dont need to comply with e-hailing regulations like 1) having a valid E-hailing Vehicle Permit (EVP), 2) having a valid PSV license, 3) having ehailing insurance 4) passing yearly puspakom inspection

tl;dr = indriver dont comply with APAD regulations hence got banned and removed from playstore for operating illegally. aka taxi sapu.
*
QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 20 2023, 04:25 PM)
he tak tau lah, it was MCMC submit to google and apple to block indriver after JPJ raid indriver office, and recently they just got their license back granted by APAD laugh.gif

If u ask me, the one fulfill the compliance is Grab, even AA also did not apply EVP on their platform for most part time driver.
*
This post has been edited by Optizorb: Jun 20 2023, 05:40 PM
Optizorb
post Jun 21 2023, 12:13 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,261 posts

Joined: Sep 2021
btw those 1k grab employees got laid off, can go become grab drivers now.

then they get to experience their own sohainess first-hand and get to experience what drivers always faced when dealing with them laugh.gif whistling.gif

also i hope the rakan grab fb admin is one of them.

This post has been edited by Optizorb: Jun 21 2023, 12:14 AM

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0157sec    1.17    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 18th December 2025 - 04:53 PM