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Lack of Growth, Need Advice From Otai Engineers
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TSOdenoden P
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Jun 19 2023, 10:28 AM, updated 3y ago
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Hi guys. Seeking your advice on my career growth.
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Grad : Local university, Mechanical Engineering Age : 25 Current company : Service provider, Instrumentation; Fire and Gas for Oil and Gas Salary : 3.6k basic
Unsatisfied due to : 1- We do not have any Senior/ Specialist in here, so I am lacking engineering skills. Engineering mostly we sub to smaller company. I always being the Project guy (expedite, scheduling etc).
2- Company growth is based on figures and sales. I want to be an engineer, the one who engineer, something not a salesman.
I am thinking to go into main-con such as Dialog, MMHE. Or better service provider, such as MNC companies.
Hence, seeking advice from seniors here on how to go from this cause I feel stuck due to lack of engineering skills.
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kesvani
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Jun 20 2023, 12:55 AM
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Then you enter the wrong company bro. I am no management , just spm kuli but from what i seems like you job is actually project engineer/manager. Seem like your company is just main con and job is to delegate and manage the on hand project rather than on hand implement the project. That's why your company sub all the engineering/techical part to their subcon.
This post has been edited by kesvani: Jun 20 2023, 12:56 AM
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TSOdenoden P
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Jun 20 2023, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jun 20 2023, 12:55 AM) Then you enter the wrong company bro. I am no management , just spm kuli but from what i seems like you job is actually project engineer/manager. Seem like your company is just main con and job is to delegate and manage the on hand project rather than on hand implement the project. That's why your company sub all the engineering/techical part to their subcon. Ya betul bro, thanks for the opinion.
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iambloodymuch
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Jun 20 2023, 12:48 PM
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you can learn from your sub con
i was in project engineering for 5 years before jump to sales
i would say you could always learn technical knowledge no matter what is your job scope
just get to know your client, manage them well, then hopefully one day you can goyang kaki jadi end user. haha
if not just continue on learning from all sides.
you are still early in your career and still got time to change to technical post.
but the opportunity is limited, that is why many stuck in sales.
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BS8110
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Jun 20 2023, 01:22 PM
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There are two ways.
One - you learn from your subcontractor how things are done even on technical side. Ask question, see for yourself how it is done, get them to brief you on the process, equipment, manpower etc. You can do this in current position.
Two - go to other company that do the work. This is subject to when such opportunity is available.
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TSOdenoden P
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Jun 20 2023, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(iambloodymuch @ Jun 20 2023, 12:48 PM) you can learn from your sub con i was in project engineering for 5 years before jump to sales i would say you could always learn technical knowledge no matter what is your job scope just get to know your client, manage them well, then hopefully one day you can goyang kaki jadi end user. haha if not just continue on learning from all sides. you are still early in your career and still got time to change to technical post. but the opportunity is limited, that is why many stuck in sales. Thank you. Good advice sir. Need to learn by myself la nampaknya.
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TSOdenoden P
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Jun 20 2023, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(BS8110 @ Jun 20 2023, 01:22 PM) There are two ways. One - you learn from your subcontractor how things are done even on technical side. Ask question, see for yourself how it is done, get them to brief you on the process, equipment, manpower etc. You can do this in current position. Two - go to other company that do the work. This is subject to when such opportunity is available. Thanks. Good advice. I once thinking to join the subcon due to lack of technical knowledge here lol. But, the salary cannot compensate my current one. These is the best approach.
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kesvani
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Jun 20 2023, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(Odenoden @ Jun 20 2023, 02:43 PM) Thanks. Good advice. I once thinking to join the subcon due to lack of technical knowledge here lol. But, the salary cannot compensate my current one. These is the best approach. Well this true. Main con side salary especially those involve in project management is always higher than subcon with engineering but its gonna stress the hell out of you. Not sure why but i notice management and sales is always highly valued heck even me as supervisor when with main con last time my salary is almost twice when with subcon but the stress is unbearable. Long working hour and paper is killing all the motivation The only advantage with engineering is easy to jump ship while with management if someone is better than then be prepare to be sideline All above is just my experience opinion. No right or wrong This post has been edited by kesvani: Jun 20 2023, 10:20 PM
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Joe1997
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Jun 21 2023, 03:31 PM
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Want technical go to supplier/ manufacturer side. Then you can design / test with engg skills. When you go up to client side, you can still learn engg skill but mostly is managing your suppliers / clients and reviewing the documents with technical knowledge.
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SUSJudashow Alpha
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Jul 3 2023, 09:58 AM
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I thinkngood idea to try at dialog.
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