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post Jun 16 2023, 01:51 PM, updated 3y ago

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https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/300902122/ma...-refugee-status

A Malaysian man’s lavish lifestyle and business expenses landed him in $9.5 million of debt to the wrong people – so he applied for refugee status.

New Zealand Immigration and Protection Tribunal denied his appeal. It found no evidence of threats against his life and said his fear of persecution was “not well-founded”.

The man was in Malaysia when he started a money lending business in 2003, taking money from investors and lending it out at a high interest rate.

But in 2008, when business became rocky, he decided to borrow money from loan sharks and other lenders to keep afloat.

This became a pattern. Between 2008 and 2014, the man continued to borrow from other lenders to fund his business and lifestyle.

He would take out new loans to pay off old ones.

The man and his family were living an “extravagant lifestyle” and he did not keep tabs on the debts he was accruing nor the money flowing in and out of his multiple personal accounts.

By early 2014, he realised he owed at least MYR27,000,000 (about NZ$9.5m) to a string of lenders and investors.

It was too much to repay.

By this time, no less than 14 of the man’s creditors were loan shark.

By the end of March 2014, a number of investors in his lending company gave the man a deadline of the following Monday to pay back all their money – a total of around MYR9,000,000 (NZ$3.15m).

The man did not have their money and could not borrow any more.

He fled to New Zealand with his family in April 2014. Upon arrival, he was greeted with Facebook posts from people back home calling him a “scumbag” and “cruel and unscrupulous”. Posts included photos of him and his business.

In 2015, the man discovered he had a “blacklisted” Malaysian immigration status, which meant when he tried to renew his Malaysian passport four years later, he was unable to.

By 2020, he made a claim for refugee and protected person status in New Zealand.

The man argued that if he returned to Malaysia he would be arrested on arrival, charged with criminal offences relating to the collapse of his money lending business, and would not get a fair trial because of the influence of his investors.

He also fears his life would be threatened by loan sharks.

New Zealand Immigration and Protection Tribunal found the man’s statements credible, but did not find any evidence that his life was under threat.

His appeal was rejected.



Early 2014 hutang 27mil
March 2014 Ah long only Minta 9mil?

Tak paham.. macam money game je.
Anyway, welcome back, see u soon.

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post Jun 16 2023, 01:53 PM

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post Jun 16 2023, 01:55 PM

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Bullets only cost RM0.50 each.

This one owes so much, not sure worth 0.50 or more?
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post Jun 16 2023, 01:56 PM

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NZ salah doh. Should go US instead.
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post Jun 16 2023, 01:56 PM

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sampah masyarakat
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post Jun 16 2023, 01:57 PM

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Literally sampah and scum.
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post Jun 16 2023, 01:58 PM

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along pinjam from along
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post Jun 16 2023, 01:59 PM

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Should have went with Australia instead
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post Jun 16 2023, 01:59 PM

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I'm curious if ktard can find out who this guy is. I'm curious
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post Jun 16 2023, 02:01 PM

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Habis. The end of his life.

Dozen of hitman waiting in the airport.
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post Jun 16 2023, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ Jun 16 2023, 02:51 PM)
The man argued that if he returned to Malaysia he would be arrested on arrival, charged with criminal offences relating to the collapse of his money lending business, and would not get a fair trial because of the influence of his investors.

He also fears his life would be threatened by loan sharks.

New Zealand Immigration and Protection Tribunal found the man’s statements credible, but did not find any evidence that his life was under threat.

His appeal was rejected.
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Terpaling tertindas wanna pull refugee card kek. Also no shit you'd get charged, some of the money you owe is from investors.
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post Jun 16 2023, 02:12 PM

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Should go to mainland like Jho Low, gatal want to go mat salleh country… kek
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post Jun 16 2023, 02:13 PM

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deported already?
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post Jun 16 2023, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(upcars @ Jun 16 2023, 01:53 PM)
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post Jun 16 2023, 02:21 PM

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Early 2014 hutang 27mil
March 2014 Ah long only Minta 9mil?
He borrowed between 2008-2014, and had investors pumping in cash into his business. Early 2014 the sum was ascertained to be around 27m. In March, the 9m was asked by investors, not the loan sharks.

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post Jun 16 2023, 02:23 PM

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Why is his name/race/religion/age omitted?


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post Jun 16 2023, 02:26 PM

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Sendiri jadi along sendiri pinjam dari along?!

Sendiri tau taktik busuk along still go pinjam from other along? Thinking u know their game and u can game them?
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post Jun 16 2023, 02:27 PM

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Wat to do? Bend over and work till 55 loh.

Added: Sorry. Wrong calculation. Should be 85.

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QUOTE(Ripp87 @ Jun 16 2023, 01:55 PM)
Bullets only cost RM0.50 each.

This one owes so much, not sure worth 0.50 or more?
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Borrower: “if u kill me u can’t even get 1sen… so dont kill me”
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QUOTE(Ripp87 @ Jun 16 2023, 01:55 PM)
Bullets only cost RM0.50 each.

This one owes so much, not sure worth 0.50 or more?
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This one gatling gun 100 rounds also tak cukup.
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QUOTE(TruboXL @ Jun 16 2023, 02:15 PM)
why cook when you can just eat?
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It's raw egg. High chance got salmon..... nella.
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post Jun 16 2023, 02:43 PM

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Should be lgbtq ditindas
Maybe can seek asylum la
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post Jun 16 2023, 02:43 PM

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i thought my 2m debt is a lot..

this guy is legendary
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post Jun 16 2023, 02:46 PM

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PDRM.. go ask Interpol to locate and catch this guy la


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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jun 16 2023, 02:42 PM)
This one gatling gun 100 rounds also tak cukup.
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Make his family pays for the bills later. The bullets bills.

Imagine getting 1million bullets shots (RM500k)

Gonna be in chunks and micro pieces 😂
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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Jun 16 2023, 02:46 PM)
PDRM.. go ask Interpol to locate and catch this guy la
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And get Jocelyn chia to roast him daily
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this fella sohai
he should borrow money to buy another citizenship for himself and families

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post Jun 16 2023, 02:57 PM

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Am i reading it right?

He run an ahlong company but end up he borrow money from ahlong?


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post Jun 17 2023, 03:38 AM

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msia ah long also big debts
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post Jun 17 2023, 07:35 AM

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He could flee to NZ means he is still holding millions in assets, but don't want to go bankrupt and want to continue to live luxurious life somewhere else. Now become stateless already just go buy a boat and sail away and live in open sea. His family will bring him supplies from time to time. devil.gif

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ah long getting taste of own medicine laugh.gif
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post Jun 17 2023, 07:51 AM

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so nice can take up loans then runaway apply refugee in other country
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post Jun 17 2023, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 16 2023, 02:01 PM)
Habis. The end of his life.

Dozen of hitman waiting in the airport.
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Kill borrower is no use.
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wow go new zeland pula... should have learn from jho.
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post Jun 17 2023, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(vhs @ Jun 17 2023, 07:35 AM)
He could flee to NZ means he is still holding millions in assets, but don't want to go bankrupt and want to continue to live luxurious life somewhere else. Now become stateless already just go buy a boat and sail away and live in open sea. His family will bring him supplies from time to time. devil.gif
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Maybe later sold the family to ah long....
You know la...
If wife or daughter ..ahem...ahem....
But gonna work till holes loose or pecah la ....
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post Jun 17 2023, 09:24 AM

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Wow. Apa race? Kek.
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He thinks he Jho Low level.
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post Jun 17 2023, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 16 2023, 02:01 PM)
Habis. The end of his life.

Dozen of hitman waiting in the airport.
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Ya but if u kill him u don't get a penny back
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post Jun 17 2023, 09:43 AM

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Dia cakap ah long threatens to hurt him

But NZ don't believe him.

Lu belip him?
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post Jun 17 2023, 09:44 AM

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who is the investor to ahlong? can someone introduce me to this big shark?
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QUOTE(absorb-d @ Jun 17 2023, 09:35 AM)
Ya but if u kill him u don't get a penny back
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Write it off as bad debt?
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It is funny that Malaysia is a very religious and conservative society/country.

Yet for decades, we (gov and the people) allow this 'illegal' industry to survive and flourish...

Inb4, we all love fast/quick money, who care about moral and religion when it come to money...
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QUOTE(70U63 @ Jun 17 2023, 10:17 AM)
It is funny that Malaysia is a very religious and conservative society/country.

Yet for decades, we (gov and the people) allow this 'illegal' industry to survive and flourish...

Inb4, we all love fast/quick money, who care about moral and religion when it come to money...
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The cure for that is to have financial discipline and long term planning actually. At the end, only desperate people with desperate needs allow such industry to flourish. Normal people will not borrow money from loan shark just for fun. Without desperate people, loan shark will go extinct naturally.

But in this case, there is obviously money game element as well. People wants easy money with large and quick gain, hence falls prey to JJPTR kind of scam.

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post Jun 17 2023, 10:39 AM

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I’m more interested at how extravagant his family lifestyle is living on such huge debts.
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post Jun 17 2023, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jun 17 2023, 08:46 AM)
Kill borrower is no use.
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QUOTE(absorb-d @ Jun 17 2023, 09:35 AM)
Ya but if u kill him u don't get a penny back
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He can’t pay anymore. Otherwise he won’t run that far and long.

 

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