EV resale value gooding? How much you willing to pay for 5 years used EV?

5 years used?

Hell NO

Not that lvl or realiability yet

Not even a used tsla

maybe if Honda only got RV. malaysian said ada Honda ada RV

mana "give me free also i dunwan" option?

Deduct the battery wear% x2

Say battery is 20% worn, then need discount > 40%

Depends on the battery tech type and condition at the time.
Based on present cars, about 40%

If 5 years old China EV like BYD, I would say minus 70% from purchase price.

Rm500 cod nawww

owai

Wei just go buy your shitty hybrid la, every few weeks open thread. Last thread mommy say don't buy, you still dowan to listen to mommy then just go your own way. Make a decision.

Why do u wanna buy a car and think about resale value so much. Might as well just take public transport. No need worry about anything.

Bangsa RV...

Kasi chan la. I try to look for used EV price but currently all less than 2 years. That's why ask here.

This is why I suspect that in the future most EV will be sold under lease/subscription model.

Will you buy an 2018 Samsung S9+ today ?

Fyi China alot ev when change battery the cost is like half of the car price and with that price u can terus buy honda or Toyota dy . 200k car swap bat 100k , that why China alot owner just abandoned the car saja

Pakai buang concept is real.

how much it cost to replace a EV battery? 10-20k?

after 5 years you left with 3 years warranty so for me at least 50%

fuhhhh battery change sibeh mahal lolz

after 5 years summore > aduiii

Is this really the reality of ev? Only for rich people?

Should be more than that. Hybrid battery also cost at least rm5k, and those only has 2km range.

now only for the rich, if you think about RV then something is wrong.

As planned. EV battery system - proprietary. Say after 7-10 years, good luck finding legit original new battery with reasonable price.

If same price as new battery ok?

Toyota Prius 1.8 pun Mcm tu. After 5 years the car was being sold second hand about 40k. Originally about 158k. Now about 30k.

Resale value is for exit strategy planning, say 5 years to change to new model.

Unless you plan to maintain until scrap value or
have no clue about total cost of car ownership.

kasi cheap cheap lease plan like rm700 per month maybe lah

but in malaysia leasing is not cheap wei

Electronic max tahan 10 years with multiple time breakdowns.
After 5 years, the value should be left 25% at best

Bought mine 140K. Sold 68K after 5+ years. Not a good RV for a toyota.

do you think it worth more or just the perception that cause it to have low price?

Perception. There were cases of battery replacement under warranty and I got scared and traded it in to UMW as no personal experience selling hybrids

If the battery just tukar, 70%
If still old battery, 20%

This post has been edited by cursetheroad01: Jun 16 2023, 12:19 PM

depends..which one?

plug in or hybrid?

prius?

because of battery right?

to replace it very expensive, and only last 9 years?

Depends whether any workshop know how to change EV battery, if need go back 4S centre, gip me also don’t want

U need to ask upfront how much the battery cost . If not mistaken China cheapest ev the battery cost also half of the car price .

no lol. battery probably so bad that it needs to be charged every 100km

Want RV buy Honda lah

HRV
CRV
BRV
WRV

3-4 years old EV best to buy. First owner already tank the depreciation, you untung can enjoy warranty until the 8th year

I will be willing to pay

New car price - replacement battery price (ori) - 50%

I am thinking that since phones and laptops has OEM compatible batteries, there might be such thing offered for EV.

No depreciation cause after 2 years gov will tax kao ev 100%

haven't buy also think of selling. most end up selling after 10+ years. what resale value also gone la.

Not just the battery, the inverter, controller, is proprietary. It's tightly integrated with car ECU and highly guarded secret. Good luck with that.

It's for the environment they said.

Thats really bad news

yea all come from alibaba

NEM only give 10 years buy back. So after 10 years, you give free PV electricity to TNB during day and buy your electricity at night from TNB.

Here is how the old EV comes into play.

If the EV when new, battery capacity is 60kWh.

The EV after 10 years say degrade 30% capacity, owner decides to buy a new EV battery to replace. But 10 years into the future already, better 3rd party battery availability, improved battery tech and larger capacity. (Imagine Nokia 3310 with new big capacity battery which can be standby for 30 days) So the battery has more energy but still can fit into the same space, +30% of original 60kWh = 78kWh, range also increased from 400km to 520km. Maybe the battery is even lighter in weight as added bonus.

The old battery bring back home become powerwall. 30% degrade still gives 42kWh capacity, enough to run 2 units of 2.5hp A/C for 8 hours or 4 units of 1.5hp A/C for 8 hours.

So after 10 years, the old EV have +30% more range when compared to when new, and one free powerwall for PV to charge during day and use during night.

It was demonstrated with old BMW battery convert to mobile powerbank DCFC charging by Gentari, if not mistaken. So why can't use at home as powerbank for PV?

This post has been edited by RicoT: Jun 17 2023, 09:47 AM

Nah... it's all about making more money while hiding behind the 'environment'.


That's how future tech will be. It's already on track like that. john deere, tesla, Apple and many more actively doing it.


Proof of concept is always nice, but it's suitable for all. Try to slab a used battery banks in small terrace house. No space.

Hang it on a vertical rack, or leave it horizontal on the floor and make a step over it.

Look like a good deal.

Buy EV like Maxis Zerolution in near future

And then there's people staying in condo/apartment like me...

You mean for the buyer?

Easier comparison is like this:

If battery replacement cost ≠ petrol tank replacement cost, then RV for EV or hybrid will always be lower than ICE.

Govt can artificially inflate the cost of running ICE cars through taxes etc. but it won’t be sustainable until maintenance/replacement of EV and hybrid = ICE.

Fire risk.

Tong gas explosion fire risk too. Quickly change to induction cooker.

Expected this.

Tong gas is regularly swapped out. This battery who will check?

if the brand keep coming out new tech within the same price range

how can you sell the old one

Yah, it's like selling a mobile phone every 10 years. Same price, but double the tech. Definitely not worth to keep the old one.

Gas regulator swap together? Usually the leak is from the regulator.

Yup

Will Malaysia hot climate shorten the lifespan of EV batteries faster than operation in milder climate countries?

Yeah. Even after actor things you replace like battery and such, it's confirmed reliable.

I see lexus ct200h also like prius.

Full tank 700km-ish

2011-2013 around 40-50k. Battery i saw at group they say RM3k++ with 13months warranty

Worth to buy for city drive?

This post has been edited by epsonstylux: Jun 17 2023, 02:57 PM

There won't be much reasale value for EVs. New technology for EVs are coming faster than smartphones. Its like buying the latest phone now and you have the next iteration on the pipeline already.

Don’t have to swap that out as regularly though. If need be, then it’s much cheaper than swapping out any components related to the battery.

Yes and no.

Battery don’t like high heats.

But at the same time it don’t like sub 0 temperature too. We’re already at the better end without needing to deal with winters.





This post has been edited by msacras: Jun 17 2023, 04:03 PM

Bear in mind...
1 resale value of ICE cars will also plummet once the conversion to EV accelerates. Much like demise of manual cars vs automatic cars.
2. EV upgrades at later stages should be easier eg changing battery packs, chipsets, control boards. Much like upgrading memory and motherboards of computers