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post Jun 15 2023, 02:50 PM, updated 3y ago

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Only sedan got manual for some reason. For Wagon, only CVT.

Sedan-RM286k
Wagon-RM285k

both use 2.4 liter inline 4 @271hp and 375 nm of torque

Confirm cannot fight Type-R, 330HP.

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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Jun 15 2023, 02:50 PM)
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Only sedan got manual for some reason. For Wagon, only CVT.

Sedan-RM286k
Wagon-RM285k

both use 2.4 liter inline 4 @271hp and 375 nm of torque

Confirm cannot fight Type-R, 330HP.
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It's a XV.
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post Jun 15 2023, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Jun 15 2023, 02:53 PM)
It's a XV.
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post Jun 15 2023, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Jun 15 2023, 02:53 PM)
It's a XV.
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Correction: its a lowered XV
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post Jun 15 2023, 02:56 PM

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whats the use of the 4th paddle?
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QUOTE(blackstar88 @ Jun 15 2023, 02:56 PM)
whats the use of the 4th paddle?
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post Jun 15 2023, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(blackstar88 @ Jun 15 2023, 10:56 AM)
whats the use of the 4th paddle?
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real men drive 3 pedals

alien drive 4 pedals?

alien confirmed
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post Jun 15 2023, 03:21 PM

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post Jun 15 2023, 03:23 PM

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Do people still buy Subaru nowadays?
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post Jun 15 2023, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Jun 15 2023, 02:50 PM)
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Only sedan got manual for some reason. For Wagon, only CVT.

Sedan-RM286k
Wagon-RM285k

both use 2.4 liter inline 4 @271hp and 375 nm of torque

Confirm cannot fight Type-R, 330HP.
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It's WRX only. Not STI. Hence, overpriced. Rather get GTi
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post Jun 15 2023, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(blackstar88 @ Jun 15 2023, 02:56 PM)
whats the use of the 4th paddle?
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That is just a foot-rest area la..
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post Jun 15 2023, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(blackstar88 @ Jun 15 2023, 02:56 PM)
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Dual clutch system

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post Jun 15 2023, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jun 15 2023, 03:37 PM)
Dual clutch system
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post Jun 15 2023, 03:58 PM

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post Jun 15 2023, 04:01 PM

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if you mau special and different get subaru ... btw wont tap , rather take recon FK8 .
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post Jun 15 2023, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jun 15 2023, 03:37 PM)
Dual clutch system
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post Jun 15 2023, 04:41 PM

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Macha, for a golf, it’s not just about the power numbers la, it’s about the whole car chassis, the driving dynamics, the FEEL of the car.

Apa u compare some subaru xv or whatever wx or xzx with golf, a car that has been worked on for 30-40 years, a car that’s the pinacle top model for Volkswagen (who owns audi, lambos and a shitton of other lux car make).

Like it or not, a VW Golf has all efforts poured into it, making it the best car in vw lineup, hell the price for vw golf r is 430k before OTR ok, and u won’t even have stock even if u got money buy now, golf has all the trickle down r&d from their other lux subs. Open an audi bonet and you’ll see lots of part is used for vw, open vw bonet and lots of part is audi. Of course only talking about golf r la.

And, corolla GR? I don’t even need to type anything, ownself go see review.

Mau compare this car, go compare with vw tiguan ker, toyota camry ker or someshit like that la… don’t go into a proper driver’s car category ok

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post Jun 15 2023, 04:42 PM

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Btw, new XV no longer called XV, it will follow the global AMDK naming Crosstrek.

Need to debadge by XV liao
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post Jun 15 2023, 04:44 PM

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post Jun 15 2023, 04:47 PM

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Corolla GR?

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post Jun 15 2023, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Jun 15 2023, 04:41 PM)
Macha, for a golf, it’s not just about the power numbers la, it’s about the whole car chassis, the driving dynamics, the FEEL of the car.

Apa u compare some subaru xv or whatever wx or xzx with golf, a car that has been worked on for 30-40 years, a car that’s the pinacle top model for Volkswagen (who owns audi, lambos and a shitton of other lux car make).

Like it or not, a VW Golf has all efforts poured into it, making it the best car in vw lineup, hell the price for vw golf r is 430k before OTR ok, and u won’t even have stock even if u got money buy now, golf has all the trickle down r&d from their other lux subs. Open an audi bonet and you’ll see lots of part is used for vw, open vw bonet and lots of part is audi. Of course only talking about golf r la.

And, corolla GR? I don’t even need to type anything, ownself go see review.

Mau compare this car, go compare with vw tiguan ker, toyota camry ker or someshit like that la… don’t go into a proper driver’s car category ok
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Agree golf r wins this...

But ts mentioned gti

So the corrolla gr takes the cake
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post Jun 15 2023, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Rich Dad @ Jun 15 2023, 04:49 PM)
Agree golf r wins this...

But ts mentioned gti

So the corrolla gr takes the cake
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Oh yes gti.

But, still don’t discount a gti, with just a stage1 tune, 310-320hp & 450-470nm torque, that + a tried and proven chasis, beats the shit outta any car in it’s price range. (Latest 300k 330i bmw with 250hp, heavy, bad sedan handling also have to step aside yo).

Just send to dsg motorsport, project a, quattro zone, and they can easily flash these car under 4-5k, these workshops more specialized and better workmanship then conti’s official SC.
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post Jun 15 2023, 04:59 PM

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overpriced ; but WRX Wagon aka Levorg looks good - Metal grey and Subaru blue

seen a lot when i am in Japan


if recond can source for 1.8T 177hp punya
around 200k

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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Jun 15 2023, 04:57 PM)
Oh yes gti.

But, still don’t discount a gti, with just a stage1 tune, 310-320hp & 450-470nm torque, that + a tried and proven chasis, beats the shit outta any car in it’s price range. (Latest 300k 330i bmw with 250hp, heavy, bad sedan handling also have to step aside yo).

Just send to dsg motorsport, project a, quattro zone, and they can easily flash these car under 4-5k, these workshops more specialized and better workmanship then conti’s official SC.
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Gti doesnt handle very well....

The corolla gr is a crotch rocket...

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post Jun 15 2023, 05:04 PM

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Golf GTI & R is supposed to be the best hatch there is. But somehow it is not passing a lot of stupid reviewer tests. People still go towards Type R or GR Corolla.

Almost no no talks about Megane RS these days. The 1st version RS250 is still good, but the price still hovers around RM70K. I think this one is probably a better deal than most used hot hatch. 2.0L with turbo and 2 doors.

The WRX is no longer the 90's WRX STI when Colin McRae won with it. There are no longer STI version of WRX from what i read. It is a capable car no doubt. But its not going to win stupid reviewers test.

For the moment if you have RM300-400K to spare on a hot hatch, its either Type R or GR Corolla.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jun 15 2023, 03:37 PM)
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ha ha ha ha
left right leg need to press 2 pedal
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QUOTE(bereev @ Jun 15 2023, 05:09 PM)
ha ha ha ha
left right leg need to press 2 pedal
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no, is 1,3,5 step 3rd pedal, 2,4,6 step 4th pedal
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QUOTE(Rich Dad @ Jun 15 2023, 05:03 PM)
Gti doesnt handle very well....

The corolla gr is a crotch rocket...
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Depends on what you compare with, a gti, 250k VS another proper peformance car like GR corolla 350k with it’s grfour sure will never feel as good.


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post Jun 16 2023, 01:48 AM

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WRX cannot

WRX STi can
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post Jun 16 2023, 02:00 AM

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This kind of price can buy 10 units Hyundai getz 2nd hand and still got spare money to go 4d3n to Hong Kong holiday + fire ice package
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post Jun 16 2023, 06:18 AM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 15 2023, 03:23 PM)
Do people still buy Subaru nowadays?
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Subaru is a Japanese conti. Malaysia does not appreciate this brand while in Canada and US, it is a reliable brand.
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post Jun 16 2023, 06:23 AM

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Jesus that black trim everywhere is even uglier than on photo

To be honest I love scoobies. I had a bug eye and kept it for 3 years. I bought it and sold it for 10k higher


The market and potential for scoobie is huge but this design cannot make it. Plan to get a gc8 one day for nostalgia reason ( I grew up when Colin rule the scene)

Question if it’s faster than type r ? Definitely not if stock. Is it more fun to drive ? Compare to type r ? Likely not because thier 4wd system is meant to keep the car planted in and out of corner vs FF cars has more drama with torque steer and shit
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 15 2023, 05:04 PM)
Golf GTI & R is supposed to be the best hatch there is. But somehow it is not passing a lot of stupid reviewer tests. People still go towards Type R or GR Corolla.

Almost no no talks about Megane RS these days. The 1st version RS250 is still good, but the price still hovers around RM70K. I think this one is probably a better deal than most used hot hatch. 2.0L with turbo and 2 doors.

The WRX is no longer the 90's WRX STI when Colin McRae won with it. There are no longer STI version of WRX from what i read. It is a capable car no doubt. But its not going to win stupid reviewers test.

For the moment if you have RM300-400K to spare on a hot hatch, its either Type R or GR Corolla.
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Savagegeese did a review exactly for these
At least closed to it



Summary
1. Golf is the mature one, but not the best track and handling, but great for the road usage. Interior is murderously bad
2. Type R is the king
3. Hyundai is the close 2nd, bit win in terms of price vs performance
4. GR Corolla is the worse, for Malaysia badge only matters
5. Subaru said to be good too, but did the Subaru thing and blow up before can finished

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Confirm speed bump all gone case if racing.
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if die die must talk power, then it will be muscle cars. A good car is also about handling, stability and a host of others performance related parameters
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QUOTE(Dothan @ Jun 16 2023, 06:18 AM)
Subaru is a Japanese conti. Malaysia does not appreciate this brand while in Canada and US, it is a reliable brand.
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Subaru is popular in US and Canada because they need the AWD system in snow weather
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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Jun 16 2023, 09:43 AM)
Subaru is popular in US and Canada because they need the AWD system in snow weather
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Yes, you are right. In Malaysia, we need AWD for slippery roads rclxm9.gif
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A45 faster?
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sedan ugly as fk
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But it's the only one with the manual option sweat.gif
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 15 2023, 05:04 PM)
Golf GTI & R is supposed to be the best hatch there is. But somehow it is not passing a lot of stupid reviewer tests. People still go towards Type R or GR Corolla.

Almost no no talks about Megane RS these days. The 1st version RS250 is still good, but the price still hovers around RM70K. I think this one is probably a better deal than most used hot hatch. 2.0L with turbo and 2 doors.

The WRX is no longer the 90's WRX STI when Colin McRae won with it. There are no longer STI version of WRX from what i read. It is a capable car no doubt. But its not going to win stupid reviewers test.

For the moment if you have RM300-400K to spare on a hot hatch, its either Type R or GR Corolla.
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Is there any legit workshop other than tan chong that can deal with renault sports cars?

Or tan choong themselve are still the best nevertheless?

Saw some clio rs floating in the used market and the price was quite tempting, just worried about being french likely they are many things to fix and cost a bomb.
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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 15 2023, 03:23 PM)
Do people still buy Subaru nowadays?
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FL type R more more expensive..... have to settle with WRX
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 16 2023, 10:48 AM)
A45 faster?
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 15 2023, 05:04 PM)
Golf GTI & R is supposed to be the best hatch there is. But somehow it is not passing a lot of stupid reviewer tests. People still go towards Type R or GR Corolla.

Almost no no talks about Megane RS these days. The 1st version RS250 is still good, but the price still hovers around RM70K. I think this one is probably a better deal than most used hot hatch. 2.0L with turbo and 2 doors.

The WRX is no longer the 90's WRX STI when Colin McRae won with it. There are no longer STI version of WRX from what i read. It is a capable car no doubt. But its not going to win stupid reviewers test.

For the moment if you have RM300-400K to spare on a hot hatch, its either Type R or GR Corolla.
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Type R is a lot more expensive... got money this is the one to get.... FL5 or FN2 also bagus

GTI and R you get VW reliability....

GR Corolla/Yaris can get first then talk.... but 3 cyclinder engine, bring to track syok la, drive often susah sikit.

GR86/BRZ also bagus, price also coming down, but got RTV sealant issues
Previous gen very cheap now, but no power

Hyundai N... lot or eletronics, takut rosak pula

French car, duwan to be good fren with tow truckie

hence why ppl buy this....

kinda regret didnt buy the previous gen VA WRX, thinking the new model is probably better but this is kinda lemony
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QUOTE(blackstar88 @ Jun 15 2023, 02:56 PM)
whats the use of the 4th paddle?
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Rest yr foot-la usually on highways when you dun need to gear shift so much. Must be nvr use manual b4.


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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 15 2023, 05:04 PM)
Golf GTI & R is supposed to be the best hatch there is. But somehow it is not passing a lot of stupid reviewer tests. People still go towards Type R or GR Corolla.

Almost no no talks about Megane RS these days. The 1st version RS250 is still good, but the price still hovers around RM70K. I think this one is probably a better deal than most used hot hatch. 2.0L with turbo and 2 doors.

The WRX is no longer the 90's WRX STI when Colin McRae won with it. There are no longer STI version of WRX from what i read. It is a capable car no doubt. But its not going to win stupid reviewers test.

For the moment if you have RM300-400K to spare on a hot hatch, its either Type R or GR Corolla.
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because the latest MK8 have terrible interior and user experience. and it's not a major leap compared to MK7.5 when it comes to driving

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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Jun 15 2023, 04:41 PM)
Macha, for a golf, it’s not just about the power numbers la, it’s about the whole car chassis, the driving dynamics, the FEEL of the car.

Apa u compare some subaru xv or whatever wx or xzx with golf, a car that has been worked on for 30-40 years, a car that’s the pinacle top model for Volkswagen (who owns audi, lambos and a shitton of other lux car make).

Like it or not, a VW Golf has all efforts poured into it, making it the best car in vw lineup, hell the price for vw golf r is 430k before OTR ok, and u won’t even have stock even if u got money buy now, golf has all the trickle down r&d from their other lux subs. Open an audi bonet and you’ll see lots of part is used for vw, open vw bonet and lots of part is audi. Of course only talking about golf r la.

And, corolla GR? I don’t even need to type anything, ownself go see review.

Mau compare this car, go compare with vw tiguan ker, toyota camry ker or someshit like that la… don’t go into a proper driver’s car category ok
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he still wants to compare, u blow?

 

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