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 Loke: Good idea to bring back Bas Mini

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fongsk26
post Jun 16 2023, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 16 2023, 10:24 AM)
Great to hear that bro.

pyramid parking these days is kinda a nightmare tbh. selangor free bus is not that bad actually, I also dunno why local dont want to utilize it


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Pyramid parking has poor maintenance. The green/red signal on top of the parking lots are not functional, quite a lot of it. Used to like this function as it is easy to spot vacant spots but now…..
I think an efficient public transportation is the way to go, especially the last mile. In Spore, they have company buses/trucks waiting at MRT stations to fetch workers to their factories and also feeder buses to fetch workers as well for those SME.
This is what is missing in Malaysia. Look at Puchong for instance. The pusat Bandar Puchong LRT. There is no feeder buses to fetch workers to the pasta perindustrian Puchong or the frequency is not there. Worst is the Shah Alam KTM. You are practically at the mercy of the taxi drivers if you take the KTM.
That’s why A. Loke is doing the right move to improve the last mile. He did mentioned use of vans, gojek and now bas mini. I think he also have to consider the bus stations and also safety. Ideally a covered bus stations with sufficient ventilation unlike now which is open air with a roof. Make it comfortable for people to wait for buses. And if night time, brightly lit plus safe (ie a police presence or constant police car around). Slowly build the trust of public back to the public transportation. Not going to be easy but can change.

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JimbeamofNRT
post Jun 16 2023, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Jun 16 2023, 10:33 AM)
Pyramid parking has poor maintenance.  The green/red signal on top of the arming lots are not functional, quite a lot of it.  Used to like this function as it is easy to spot vacant spots but now…..
I think an efficient public transportation is the way to go, especially the last mile.  In Spore, they have company buses/trucks waiting at MRT stations to fetch workers to their factories and also feeder buses to fetch workers as well for those SME. 
This is what is missing in Malaysia.  Look at Puchong for instance.  The pusat Bandar Puchong LRT.  There is no feeder buses to fetch workers to the pasta perindustrian Puchong or the frequency is not there.  Worst is the Shah Alam KTM.  You are practically at the mercy of the taxi drivers if you take the KTM.
That’s why A. Loke is doing the right move to improve the last mile.  He did mentioned use of vans, gojek and now bas mini.  I think he also have to consider the bus stations and also safety.  Ideally a covered bus stations with sufficient ventilation unlike now which is open air with a roof.  Make it comfortable for people to wait for buses. And if night time, brightly lit plus safe (ie a police presence or constant police car around).  Slowly build the trust of public back to the public transportation.  Not going to be easy but can change.
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Well said.

there are many missing links actually, even in KV itself

nowadays I use moovit apps for public transport

there is this one free bas selangorku from lrt puchong towards sunway pyramid and ss15 as well. SJ02. did u take that one to pyramid?
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post Jun 16 2023, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 16 2023, 10:44 AM)
Well said.

there are many missing links actually, even in KV itself

nowadays I use moovit apps for public transport

there is this one free bas selangorku from lrt puchong towards sunway pyramid and ss15 as well. SJ02. did u take that one to pyramid?
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Used to since it is so convenient, comfortable and free.😂😂😂
Since covid, I took it like 3 or 4 times cos I try to reduce public exposure until I feel really comfortable about covid. As I know, we are still in the endemic stage and have not gone fully open yet for covid control.
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post Jun 16 2023, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 16 2023, 10:30 AM)
It is to encourage more people to take public transport and reduce the jams.

Don't do anything about public transport, complain.

Now trying something, also complain!
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most of pj is becoming an "old town"
traffic is transitionary between two suburbs that are growing OKR area and Damansara

sportivo
post Jun 16 2023, 04:29 PM

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mini bus 16 seaters with seat-belt
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post Jun 16 2023, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 16 2023, 08:50 AM)
err.... why u need to take mini bus from petaling st. to kotaraya? it is just a 5 minutes walk bro

if from central market/kotaraya to klcc, sungai wang ok lah
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tat was the goodness back then... bus everywhere.
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post Jun 16 2023, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(sportivo @ Jun 16 2023, 04:29 PM)
mini bus 16 seaters with seat-belt
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once upon a time, this scenario was a norm during peak hours

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now become liddis

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post Jun 17 2023, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Jun 16 2023, 09:16 AM)
I Need to start taking one soon
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Singapore bus are on another level, it is better maintained than RapidKL and has double decker model. They got the budget lah since lots of people are using bus.

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post Jun 17 2023, 07:52 AM

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It's basically adding more busses. Mini buss is efficient not because of the size mainly but because of the driver drive like crazy. Of course the size help for it to be driven that way. Nowadays is it possible for bus driver to drive like that?
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post Jun 17 2023, 08:00 AM

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Some ppl here think getting that no aircond pink kaler bus? Please lar. Don't be idiot.
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post Jun 17 2023, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 16 2023, 08:00 PM)
once upon a time, this scenario was a norm during peak hours

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now become liddis

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I will agree bring back if the charges is rm0.60 from Shah ALAM to Kl😁
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post Jun 17 2023, 08:33 AM

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Bas mini should only be for last mile connectivity. No more Chow yang to kota raya shit.
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post Jun 17 2023, 08:33 AM

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Don’t want mini bus

Call it something like rapid pro max

Then everyone happy
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post Jun 17 2023, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Jun 15 2023, 12:50 PM)
This really going backward… can’t even work on improving transport system
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How is this going backward? LOL...

Prasarana should not monopoly all public transport. In fact, back then when it was between Selangor bus and mini bus, things were fine. It was not until these bumi consortium like cityliner and intrakota started taking over and failing like the biggest snowfall in the history. Prasarana in the end bailout DRB Hicom by taking over Intrakota and I dont know what happened with Cityliner.
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post Jun 17 2023, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(vhs @ Jun 17 2023, 07:46 AM)
Singapore bus are on another level, it is better maintained than RapidKL and has double decker model. They got the budget lah since lots of people are using bus.
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Yup,they really planned it well

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post Jun 17 2023, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Jun 17 2023, 08:12 AM)
I will agree bring back if the charges is rm0.60 from Shah ALAM to Kl😁
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shah alam - klang got lah

shah alam to kl - never

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post Jun 17 2023, 09:24 AM

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What they need are lots of buses, minibus or otherwise, to service lots of key connecting spots and branch out to various interconnecting routes, with minimal wait between buses. 30 minutes is too slow, even 20 minutes is too slow. 10 minutes should be the benchmark during peak hours. That means lots of buses and lots of drivers. Bus fare collection needs to be integrated so that people can just tap quickly to get in and out. In fact, just tap in will do and charge flat rate or by monthly pass. The total journey time in conjunction to rail should be more or less 1 hour for most people and comparable to driving and needs to be cheaper than driving. Then you will see many people switching to public transport.

But the cost side is a problem. That company is not going to make profit with cheap fare and lots of buses. Government will have to subsidize. Just like how Singapore subsidize their mass transit. If you want to compare to previous minibus fare of RM0.60, that was at a time when chicken rice normally costed RM2.00. So if compare to chicken rice price now, then a single trip bus fare will be RM3.00 without subsidies. Most people will consider that too expensive since most of the route won't be direct and require changing bus or to use the rails.

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post Jun 17 2023, 09:29 AM

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those who say mini bus super efficient.. let see how efficient it is going through this..

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2023 is not the 80s anymore.. underlying traffic issue never solved, but want add more to the traffic to make it more "efficient".. kek..
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 17 2023, 08:34 AM)
How is this going backward? LOL...

Prasarana should not monopoly all public transport. In fact, back then when it was between Selangor bus and mini bus, things were fine. It was not until these bumi consortium like cityliner and intrakota started taking over and failing like the biggest snowfall in the history. Prasarana in the end bailout DRB Hicom by taking over Intrakota and I dont know what happened with Cityliner.
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it's all started when drb lobbied gomen ( read : mamakthir ) for the right to operate in KL back in early 90s. they think they can make $ from it and wanna eliminate the competitors

park may cityliner was bought by Konsortium Transnasional Bhd and they merged Cityliner Sdn Bhd, The Kuala Lumpur, Klang and Port Swettenham Omnibus Company Berhad, The Kuala Selangor Omnibus Company Berhad and Tanjung Karang Transportation Sdn Bhd operations.

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post Jun 17 2023, 09:31 AM

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Too late already....the current generation don't have the skill to drive Minibus. It will cause more jam, delays and worst, accident.

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