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Books to recommend for investment?, Investment book
Books to recommend for investment?, Investment book
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I'm a degree student majoring in banking and finance. currently i'm very interested in stock market and investment. however, wat i'm learning in college is insufficient to teach me how to start investing. i'm very excited to learn more to analyze the stock market and investment technique. so any recommendation of books that i can refer to??? i'm just a beginner level.
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Oct 19 2007, 09:04 AM
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In fact there are too many in the market. can't afford to read all. i will be interested to get a good 1 if there are any recommendation too... :p
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Oct 19 2007, 10:55 AM
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I have one on buying stocks and it's too technical and boring...
You can take a look at Milan Doshi's book on Malaysian Real Estate... might also want to check out The Warren Buffett Way on stocks... Anyway, these are just books for your reading pleasure... better if you can learn from someone with hands on experience... everyone is an investor or that's how most people address themselves... just how successful that person is, is subjective... |
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Oct 19 2007, 10:57 AM
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Rich Dad Poor Dad.....
Its a start...... I'd like the book because its interesting, more over its not a very thick book, so you don't spend too much time on it... Its not very expensive, you can find it in MPH or any local book store... |
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books no use.
u borrow money from bank and invest at least 50k. then u will learn your self what is shares. hohoho |
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Oct 19 2007, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(uncle9 @ Oct 19 2007, 11:04 AM) books no use. no bank is going to loan you a single cent if you want to buy shares... at TS's age... without FAMA, you can't get any loan by yourself...u borrow money from bank and invest at least 50k. then u will learn your self what is shares. hohoho also 50k into the stock market without any prior knowledge is like dumping it into the sea... uncle... give something more constructive ler... |
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QUOTE(uncle9 @ Oct 19 2007, 11:04 AM) books no use. that is like dumping a child into the pool and hopes that he managed to learn to swim before he drowned!u borrow money from bank and invest at least 50k. then u will learn your self what is shares. hohoho We don't appreciate this type of replies here. At least one needs to know the basic on the share dealings before joining in the market. TS, learn the basic first before read ups on "ways to invest". Usually this type of books would tell you strategies and tactics; but not necessary suitable for the current market if you do not know how to apply it. So to know how to apply it, first you need to read up on the basic. I.e. What is stock exchange? What is fund trading? etc.... Than proceed to learn on how to kick start i.e. what is the needed criteria to start investing, is a remiser needed or can self invest? etc... Once the basic is there, than proceed to analyse what is the best tactics by either surveying through the internet or books at bookstores. |
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Try reading those investment strategies from http://www.investopedia.com/university/stockpicking/. No need to buy books, public libraries got plenty if u need any.
Then you can try paper invest those strategies. Make sure you read the Bursa's CBRS reports on company you plan to play, you'll need the forecast numbers & estimates. |
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"Rogue Trader" i like this book alot
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QUOTE(Kimballsos @ Oct 19 2007, 10:57 AM) Rich Dad Poor Dad..... I've read that book and i really like it. Its a start...... I'd like the book because its interesting, more over its not a very thick book, so you don't spend too much time on it... Its not very expensive, you can find it in MPH or any local book store... thanks for all the recommendation. and i'm looking forward for more comment. just that to make it clear, i'm just learning and not wanted to start investing. haha...i won't borrow 50k and dump it in the stock market. |
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no nid borrow 50k.. but u can start from small amount.. experience is the best teacher...
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Oct 20 2007, 08:44 AM
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These books are highly recommended
Phil Town- Rule No. 1 David Bach- Start Late, Finish Rich Peter Spann-From Broke to Multimillionaire in 7 Years Adam Khoo- Secrets of Millionaire Investors Robert G. Allen- Multiple Streams of Income Azizi Ali- (Any of his books) IMO, I think these books are great |
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QUOTE(amirbashah @ Oct 20 2007, 08:44 AM) These books are highly recommended www.bkcollection.co.nrPhil Town- Rule No. 1 David Bach- Start Late, Finish Rich Peter Spann-From Broke to Multimillionaire in 7 Years Adam Khoo- Secrets of Millionaire Investors Robert G. Allen- Multiple Streams of Income Azizi Ali- (Any of his books) IMO, I think these books are great |
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QUOTE(calistachan @ Oct 19 2007, 03:44 AM) I'm a degree student majoring in banking and finance. currently i'm very interested in stock market and investment. however, wat i'm learning in college is insufficient to teach me how to start investing. i'm very excited to learn more to analyze the stock market and investment technique. so any recommendation of books that i can refer to??? i'm just a beginner level. Books? Not necessary.. Books basically don't help u anything much on real-life trading. It juz gives u whatever knowledge u might need like gordon growth model, single pricing model, u/value or o/value stocks, so on & how u derive and estimate the stocks price based on market performance; watsoeverla..hehe... they might help if u wan to do some stock analysis.. But usually, for beginner investor, maybe some simple stock evaluation should be justificable like analysing the finacial statments, the stock past performance, growth of company, industry, and recent developmnt.Anyway, on my suggestion for beginner level(juniors in stocks), try reading some magazine, like personal money(local), or financialdaily ,etc,etc to look up on latest development of some companies, local economic reports and so on. Be hardworking to flip through the business section on the dailies. Track the stock prices also, try to get histroical prices to assist u on the stock performance.. Also, if Any spare time, maybe can enroll in Module 6 & 7 examintion by SC, i guess this will help u at least something at beginner level... Tis was wat i did when i was pursuing my finance degree.. If u still insist on refering to the books, go Library..seach for it..whole Rack is YOURS.. This post has been edited by myintbiz: Oct 21 2007, 02:16 AM |
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books r importnat...u must read it n practice it in past record..this is wat we call as backtest...
FA+TA+rational thinkin= u will b among d best.. goodluck this is 1 of d book that i really love.. download it n read few times... http://www.bizfun.cc/forum/index.php/topic,1199.0.html rememb, choose book wisely,choose from d best..... |
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 21 2007, 01:12 PM) books r importnat...u must read it n practice it in past record..this is wat we call as backtest... Knowing is not enough; we must applyFA+TA+rational thinkin= u will b among d best.. goodluck this is 1 of d book that i really love.. download it n read few times... http://www.bizfun.cc/forum/index.php/topic,1199.0.html rememb, choose book wisely,choose from d best..... Willing is not enough; we must do |
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QUOTE(Kimballsos @ Oct 19 2007, 10:57 AM) Rich Dad Poor Dad..... You should take what Robert Kiyosaki says in his books with a huge grain of salt. His books can be very misleading by re-defining the meanings of basic terms like debt, asset, liability...Its a start...... I'd like the book because its interesting, more over its not a very thick book, so you don't spend too much time on it... Its not very expensive, you can find it in MPH or any local book store... Read these first before you really believe everything R. Kiyosaki wrote: http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/...saki-is-a-liar/ I know it's a very long article, but I just want you guys to be careful before following Rich Dad Poor Dad's advice blindly. This post has been edited by iamyuanwu: Oct 22 2007, 02:51 AM |
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Oct 22 2007, 02:42 AM) You should take what Robert Kiyosaki says in his books with a huge grain of salt. His books can be very misleading by re-defining the meanings of basic terms like debt, asset, liability... when some people are successful, there are bound to have people going against them...Read these first before you really believe everything R. Kiyosaki wrote: http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/...saki-is-a-liar/ I know it's a very long article, but I just want you guys to be careful before following Rich Dad Poor Dad's advice blindly. if you read carefully the comments by the people strongly opposing Kiyosaki, you'll notice that they take his book as a how-to rather than an ideology... different people interprets things in a different way, no right or wrong... i find his books very informative, the thing that you'll figure out eventually is he simplified a lot of stuff and a lot of things a kinda too perfect but again, its a great book to actually change your mindset from following the conventional way of investing... |
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 22 2007, 07:18 AM) different people interprets things in a different way, no right or wrong... Well said, Kenji i find his books very informative, the thing that you'll figure out eventually is he simplified a lot of stuff and a lot of things a kinda too perfect but again, its a great book to actually change your mindset from following the conventional way of investing... at the end of the day, his book actually encourages ppl to actually DO something to change their lives. That IMO, is the most important thing. There arent many books out there that have similar impact nowadays, so kudo's to Kiyosaki on this. |
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Oct 22 2007, 02:57 PM
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Know Your Unit Trust Investment by Jeffrey Gan
i think this book quite suitable for those just new to investment... It tell you what type of investment we have. What industries we have for equity.. blahblahblah... Its a simple, easy understanding book... Try to look for it... Good Luck |
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Oct 22 2007, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Oct 22 2007, 02:42 AM) You should take what Robert Kiyosaki says in his books with a huge grain of salt. His books can be very misleading by re-defining the meanings of basic terms like debt, asset, liability... I've read those before and if you read a lot of user's feedback on john reed's column; you'll find some rather astonishing and amusing stories. I would term them as "stupid". Couple of them post their failures because they just go all out without first anlysing whether or not the strategy suits them or the market.Read these first before you really believe everything R. Kiyosaki wrote: http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/...saki-is-a-liar/ I know it's a very long article, but I just want you guys to be careful before following Rich Dad Poor Dad's advice blindly. EG: QUOTE Dear Mr. Reed: I would like to request that if you post this anywhere, please do not use my name. I was first given a copy of Rich Dad, Poor Dad by my father in law who had received it from his ex-girlfriend. Since this book was coming from a man that is quite comfortable in his finances, I took it seriously. After reading the book, I quit a job where I was making a decent salary as an engineer and then proceeded to waste the next two years of my life. Since Kiyosaki says that it is so easy to run a business and make money, I figured that I would be rich in no time. Unfortunately, after losing more than $30K trying to start up my easy income, I've gotten nowhere. What I can't believe is how there are people out there that call this a good book. There is nothing good about it. It is propaganda for a mass majority that is desperately trying to cling to something. People that are trying to blame everybody else for their problems. People that want to understand why they have nothing, yet fail to see that the Mercedes Benz is not helping them at all. Kiyosaki is full of crap, he oversimplifies things and says absolutely nothing. Too bad I figured this out too late. My only salvation is that I'm still in my twenties and have plenty of time to make up for the money that I lost. Thankfully, I've recently found a job in my old line of work at about the same salary as before. This guy is dangerous; because of his stupid advice, I actually lost two years of income, lost an extra $30K, and almost got divorced. Name withheld by request Again, ppl should judge which strategy suits them the best. Same can be said regarding John Reed which how other ppl supporting him are calling Kiyosaki names. Especially on how some labeled Kiyosaki as funding himself by selling books and dreams to everyone. For eg, when one read a property investment book (a lot are coming from the states) doesn't meant that the property investment skills and strategy can be applied here in M'sia. But if one learns to read between the lines and analyse it; it might be useful. I would say a lot have benefited from RDPD series though I've read only 1 which is on "MLM" (half way through) and I tend not to like it; not because of the strategy itself, but I myself am not a salesperson even though it preaches that everyone can a salesperson. But there are points and philosophies in there which I agreed to. |
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Oct 22 2007, 04:49 PM
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Book still is a book, theory is just a theory.
Books are best to be used as reference to widen your knowledge and view, which is the most importance of it, it is not meant to get some 'tips' of how to become rich. It is not mean that what all insides are 100% true or 100% false. You need to use your knowledge to analyse, to justify or to determine whether it is applicable or not. Sometimes, reading through books also can get some inspiration of businesses or investment idea also. But none of it should be followed blindly. A lot of things are simplied to give as example, real business world or investment world are more complicated than that. Just like people said invest in real estate sure make money one, (I think this is the major misconception in the market as almost everyone said so, but putting in FD, your FD also surely make money every year, right? but none of us or less people said so.) If property return rate is 7% per annum while FD interest also 7%, but still people will choose property be because of mis-conception as mentioned. Just like in discussing in property subforum, a lot of expenses is not taking in as consideration for the like maintenance of houses, expenses spent, but people just look at the initial buying price and final selling price to determine and conclude property surely gain money one. Don't get me wrong, reading through these books is benefitting for anyone, as you will have a broaden view in every aspect of it and can take a look at a bigger picture which may prompt one to make a more wiseful decision. |
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Good point you guys have.
I just want make aware of other opinions about his books. If his books inspire and motivate you, then I'm sure they are good stuff for you. It's just my personal opinion that I don't trust what Kiyosaki writes. By all means read his books and take the good, filter the crap. |
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Oct 23 2007, 08:03 PM
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If you're interested in long term investment, The Four Pillars of Invesment by William Bernstein is a good start.
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Jan 4 2008, 12:58 AM
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reli thanks for all the info... i've started on some books. but then again...i find it abit hard for me to learn as i still have alot of theory that i do not understand...
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QUOTE(calistachan @ Jan 4 2008, 12:58 AM) reli thanks for all the info... i've started on some books. but then again...i find it abit hard for me to learn as i still have alot of theory that i do not understand... slow slow lorr ^.^ at least u r far better from some of us coz u got learn d ab accountin.. |
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Try 'The Dummies' series.
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QUOTE(calistachan @ Oct 19 2007, 03:44 AM) I'm a degree student majoring in banking and finance. currently i'm very interested in stock market and investment. however, wat i'm learning in college is insufficient to teach me how to start investing. i'm very excited to learn more to analyze the stock market and investment technique. so any recommendation of books that i can refer to??? i'm just a beginner level. You can try this book, give you basic ideas on share investment. Calculate Financial figures such as ROE, D/E, PER, intrinsic & fair value.Ho Kok Mun, author of How to Make Money from Your Stock Investment even in the Failing Market. |
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for stock market, recommend you the following book which can direct apply to msia market:
1) i love stock - Pauline Yong http://www.mph.com.my/search/nsearch.cfm?d...code=9834212429 2) How to Make Money from Your Stock Investment Even in a Falling Market - Ho Kok Mun http://www.mph.com.my/search/nsearch.cfm?d...code=983378903X 3) Essential Stock Investment Strategies to Make Money Even in a Falling Market (Revised Edition) http://www.mph.com.my/search/nsearch.cfm?d...code=9833789137 in addition you may want to browse bursa malaysia page at http://www.klse.com.my/ for annual report and announcement by listed company. in order to understand annual report, you need to read book no.1 which teach you the most basic thing about malaysia stock. thanks |
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You can try this book I got from the library, a very old book that is based on the Malaysian stock market and a little bit on Singapore stock market as well. Informative and good for beginners.
Stock Market Investment in Malaysia and Singapore - Neoh Soon Kean |
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Some good investment books presented in "story" format:
Beating the Street - Peter Lynch One up on Wall Street - Peter Lynch Some of the Warren Buffet biographies. |
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i have a question. To learn investment, we need to read only the latest book? or it doesnt reli matter, as old books method also can apply in todays world? i am just wondering because as we all know, the world now is changing rapidly...
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QUOTE(calistachan @ Jan 12 2008, 09:06 AM) i have a question. To learn investment, we need to read only the latest book? or it doesnt reli matter, as old books method also can apply in todays world? i am just wondering because as we all know, the world now is changing rapidly... You will notice new books will also apply the methods in the old books. But with a more vibrant way of explaining and how the old methods can be applied to the new markets. While older books tend to talk about past booms and busts, the new books will reflect the newest booms and bust. For example, a book written before 1990 would concentrate it's analysis on why the stock market crash during 1987. But a book written in 2001 will discuss more on the the crash of 1997 with reference of similiarities to crash of 1987.While the newer books will have a more in-depth analysis of the recent events, past events are more for reference and will not be discussed or analysed as detailed as the recent events. Although most books will quote a reference guide of older books for the reader if they wish to know more about past events. In my opinion, read everything you can to learn about anything. There is no such thing as 1 book that will answer all your questions, no one solution to all yoru problems and no one strategy to trade in the market. |
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Jan 13 2008, 02:21 AM
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haha...okok. thanks skiddtrader. just that you see, we reli got alot of warm and friendly members here. they list down a bunch of books and references for me... and i dunno which 1 to read 1st.... but i will try my best to gain as much knowledge as i can....
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I still read some of my old investment books like "Capital Ideas from Peter Bernstain" even he has a 2nd version of it...
I find it totally amazing... |
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Jan 17 2008, 12:09 PM
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I know of this guy who have many collection of e-books on investment, motivation and others..
You can ask him to send to you. http://setapak.connecton9.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15 |
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Jan 18 2008, 05:47 PM
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i start looking really har to my daily finance after reading azizi ali book-
millionnaire in me millionnaires are from different planet then i got motivated to invest in stock market after reading Fool's book Motley fool investment guide you have more than what you think.. 2nd motley book you cant find'em in normal bookstore. i found them in 'pay less book' shops. Really great basics for stock market.. but some chapters are non applicable to Malaysia then another one basic book u should read is pauline yong's book: i love stock then better read some other articles in internet.. you'll gain knowledge as well as learn about other's mistake |
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Jan 19 2008, 11:58 PM
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I agree books no use. u have to buy to experience it. If drop, then... learn more i guess
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Jan 26 2008, 10:41 PM
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which u mean is MUST LOST only can gain expenrience?
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Jan 28 2008, 10:33 AM
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any book about what should we look out for before buying a stock?
like a basic guide to the stock market? i am not looking for any strategy to buy stock but rather a guide to the basic step/research before buying a stock |
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Jan 29 2008, 12:27 PM
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carby, as i mentioned earlier, book by 'motley fools' are quite good.
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Jan 30 2008, 03:44 PM
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Benjamin Graham - The Intelligent Investor
Some parts not applicable for Malaysia. Also not advisable for beginners |
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Mar 28 2009, 02:27 AM
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For local market, I recommend "How to make money from your stock investment even in a failing market'' written by Ho Kok Mun...
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Apr 27 2009, 02:57 AM
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i recommend that u read the rich dad poor dad series
and also One up on Wall Street by Peter Lynch. remember it is better to read n know the market well before playin it |
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Read " I love stock" by Mdm Pauline Yong, Local Johore......easy to understand. BTW i start with $7400 only & still running. 1st rule and the most easy one is buy stock that profits by operational....
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Jul 22 2009, 10:43 AM
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Hi guys, how about any courses on investment? where can i find such course?
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OSK offering a few short course, if only u their account holder then u may join in....
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 8 2008, 10:32 AM) You can try this book I got from the library, a very old book that is based on the Malaysian stock market and a little bit on Singapore stock market as well. Informative and good for beginners. Hi,Stock Market Investment in Malaysia and Singapore - Neoh Soon Kean I've a copy of his book too. But i find that his intrinsic value formula cannot be applied to current malaysian stock market. Or any adjustment need to be made to the formula? |
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currently books covering M'sian Stock Market is really basic which is not practical for newbies...sure get burn if follow blindly...
better go thro' free seminar eg. CHARTNEXUS which is done over the weekend at various places.... then u'll get some ideas, do talk with others - exchanging idea... bettter that way so u don't get lost/burn badly... note:- pdf files of ebook regarding trading & stock market can be found easily thro 'googling' This post has been edited by tessei: Jul 30 2009, 03:00 AM |
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Aug 14 2009, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(tessei @ Jul 30 2009, 02:53 AM) currently books covering M'sian Stock Market is really basic which is not practical for newbies...sure get burn if follow blindly... I beg to differ. There are several investment books written by locals which can really be applied in Bursa Malaysia. And they are a good read for beginners too. I've been making 20-50% using their formulas.better go thro' free seminar eg. CHARTNEXUS which is done over the weekend at various places.... then u'll get some ideas, do talk with others - exchanging idea... bettter that way so u don't get lost/burn badly... note:- pdf files of ebook regarding trading & stock market can be found easily thro 'googling' If you want books with practical methods to apply in Bursa Malaysia, I would suggest that you get a copy these books: 1) Andrew Chia's 'The Final Winner' and 'Bursa Winner' Final Winner: http://www.ourmoneyworld.com/FinalWinner/?topage=28 Bursa Winner: http://ourmoneyworld.com/bursawinners 2) Ho Kok Mun's 'How to Make Money From Your Stock Investment Even In A Falling Market' and 'Essential Stock Investment Strategies To Make Money Even In A Falling Market' (can be found in MPH Midvalley) 3) Stock Performance Guide by Dynaquest (can be found in MPH also) This post has been edited by DanielW: Aug 14 2009, 12:33 PM |
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Dont ever read malaysian books on investment!!!! The simple and only reason is Why they want to sell a book if they already claim making a huge amount of money in stock market?
Maybe i will get a reply from someone saying that bcoz the author want to share the knowledge or secret of success with us, bla bla bla.. am i rite? Ok, maybe u can trust them but be sceptical first and do some research bout them.. I give you hint... 1) check their track record (if their track record just give seminar, pitch, pitch, pitch) then its no use, say bye2 to him or her 2) check their educational background (dont trust people from marketing background even if they have finance knowledge) Why i say this, bcoz they know how to talk, its dangerous. 3) check whether they received a good comment from prof, top CEO and NOT the top research/investment analyst (why?, bcoz in any event they all do marketing together) 4) check the content inside (if u are finance people, u may know the lingo and its relevant to your investment strategies) (if u are chartist, u may know what chart or graph that relevant to you) Ok, that all... i dunno what to recommend you bcoz i am now focusing on finance books that relevant to my work, and this is the way i search and choose my books. Try amazon.com, u can see the comment and author background This post has been edited by gecodine: Aug 15 2009, 10:46 AM |
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Try these 2:
1. Buffettology: The Previously Unexplained Techniques That Made Warren Buffett The World's Most Famous Investor (author was Buffett's daughter in law) 2. The Essays of Warren Buffett: Lessons for Investors and Managers (a compilation of Buffett 's letters to Berkshire shareholders) This post has been edited by gilabola: Sep 4 2009, 10:50 PM |
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Sep 5 2009, 10:50 AM
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if u can read chinese then i recommend u to buy "cold eye" (author's nickname in chinese translation). quite useful before or after u involve in stock exchange
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Sep 7 2009, 01:37 AM
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i have recommended a few books in my blog
the one i prefer is 金æƒå¤©ä¸‹ .. a must read http://todayfinancialworld.blogspot.com |
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Sep 7 2009, 10:52 AM
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books only a Theory and a recommendation for you. It using if you apply it correctly.
But book is book when talk apply is our hand on and experience . You need a book but see what market you go…if you invest in Malaysia market but you buy a US market or Heng Sing market book then you application is wrong? Yar..sound is invest and share market but the behavior in between the markets are difference. One is slow market one is fast market.. you read a fast market book and apply to a slow market.. you think it’s work??? I think you only feel boring on it… What I want command is buy a local market book and read it and know the concept or investment then practice. it will your help.. Start a small amount before go to big amount… Try the hot account (many ppl goreng) for the learn level …fast in fast out…gets some experience before big amount… Commend me if I’m wrong . I’m also a beginning investor in Malaysia market… |
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Sep 8 2009, 02:22 PM
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guys, im just 19 years old and want to learn the theories on stock investing first. I have no idea reading those terms on stock markets website.. yeah 0% knowledge,, Which book should i get?
"Investment for dummies:" ?? |
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Sep 10 2009, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Sep 8 2009, 02:22 PM) guys, im just 19 years old and want to learn the theories on stock investing first. I have no idea reading those terms on stock markets website.. yeah 0% knowledge,, Which book should i get? No need to buy book to read at your state.. google it and get at least basic knowledge"Investment for dummies:" ?? Then get a copy of Finance degree year 1 or 2 book which introduce the financial market that consist of introduction to equity market and derivatives market Then go and learn about FA (fundamental analaysis) and TA (technical analysis) Then read those information on our BURSA website Then get yourself some money to start the REAL LEARNING the market itself will teach u the most as FEAR AND GREED will make u fall <-- the real learning part on trading and investing will only happen here Then u will start blaming the books and the theory that u have learned |
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Sep 10 2009, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Sep 8 2009, 02:22 PM) guys, im just 19 years old and want to learn the theories on stock investing first. I have no idea reading those terms on stock markets website.. yeah 0% knowledge,, Which book should i get? I suggest that u get ALL the books listed in my blog. They have been a great help to me :-)"Investment for dummies:" ?? |
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Jan 27 2010, 09:38 PM
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Hey All,
I guess it is time to stay at sideline now. At the main time, we should improve our trading skill now before we can make bigger money. Any suggestion on good investment/trading book? I'll recommend the Trading for a living by Alexander Elder. Please share your bible here... |
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Feb 23 2010, 04:57 PM
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the Intelligent Investor - Benjamin Graham...
Warren Buffett's sifu in value investing |
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Feb 25 2010, 11:41 AM
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Yes Books from Benjamin Graham, Peter Lynch and Phillip Fisher
The Intelligent Investor: The Definitive Book on Value Investing. A Book of Practical Counsel (Revised Edition) By Benjamin Graham Security Analysis: The Classic 1934 Edition By Benjamin Graham One Up On Wall Street : How To Use What You Already Know To Make Money In The Market By Peter Lynch Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits By Philip A. Fisher http://www.amazon.com/Uncommon-Profits-Wri...6883118-0044702 http://www.amazon.com/Intelligent-Investor...pd_bxgy_b_img_b http://www.amazon.com/Intelligent-Investor...pd_bxgy_b_img_b |
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Mar 4 2010, 12:36 AM
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+1 to moody5....
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i went to popular book store on monday to find some books on investment.. i do consider a few best seller such as Warren buffet books , T. Kiyosaki books and etc...
but in the end , i found taht all the theories in there seems not so suitable / applicable in KLSE (maybe darn good in Dow jones).. finally i found a book that really good for newbies by Ho Kok Mun.. try to find around there... i forgot the name of the book d..it is called earn from share market even during bearish / falling market" |
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Mar 19 2010, 08:26 PM
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Thank you This post has been edited by goofy2009: Mar 19 2010, 10:47 PM |
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Mar 23 2010, 09:24 AM
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Is there a recommended book for teaching noobs like me how to analyze financial data? I'm still sketchy on terms like NTA, PER, sector PER weighting, EBITDA etc...
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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Mar 23 2010, 09:24 AM) Is there a recommended book for teaching noobs like me how to analyze financial data? I'm still sketchy on terms like NTA, PER, sector PER weighting, EBITDA etc... I rekomen 'Investments' published by Financial Times, quite a comprehensive 'general' reference for newbies. You can't go wrong with anything published by FT. Thanks ya |
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anybody here has a copy of Neoh Kean Soon : stock market in singapore and malaysia?
do you know how to get the copy now ? Added on November 23, 2010, 7:31 pmLooking for Stock Market Investment In Malaysia and Singapore for sale. Can nego the price if available. This post has been edited by noiseemunkee: Nov 23 2010, 07:31 PM |
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Nov 23 2010, 10:53 PM
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pm me i am thinking to give a courrse
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Nov 24 2010, 12:14 AM
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I start from a investment dingbat to I guess pretty good today.
For a start you can try: The Warren Buffett Way - Robert Hagstrom Since you have financial background you probably don't need Mary Buffett's. SO can skip that. Then the classics: Common Stock Uncommon Profits - Phil Fisher The Intelligent Investor - Benjamin Graham Security Analysis - Benjamin Graham -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Fool Investor |
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Nov 24 2010, 10:26 AM
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Books on Buffett are a good start, his average annual return was 21% for 40 years 1965-2005), also known as the greatest investor in the history
Elementary Level: 1) "Buffettology" by Marry Buffett-Emphasize on Expanding Value, written by former Warren Buffett's daughter-in-law 2) Rule 1 by Phil Town- Emphasize on Margin of Safety and Buffett's Quotation "The first rule of Investing is don't lose money; the second rule is don't forget rule #1 , contain both Fundamental and Technical Analysis. 3) The Warren Buffett Way by Robert Hagstrom- The easiest biography of Warren Buffett Intermediate level 1) Snow Ball- This is not an ordinary biography, it is the only authorized biography by Buffett 2) The Essay of Warren Buffett- A collection of warren Buffett's letter to the shareholders in a readable format, which of course is written by warren Buffett himself,if you have time, reading the original version is a plus 3)Even Buffett isn't perfect- Point out a few misconception on Buffett, but this is quite advance reading for those who don't know Buffett. Advance Level 1) The Intelligent Investor- "The best investing book ever written" said by Buffett, written by Benjamin Graham. This is where you get the concept "Margin of safety" 2) Security Analysis- Written by Benjamin Graham, Focus more on how to apply the concept "margin of safety" on both bonds and stocks by analyzing balance sheet and income statement. 3) Common Stock and Uncommon Profit by Philip Fisher, Focus on Expanding Value, and a few key question to throw at management team. IMO, Rule 1 and Buffettology are enough to give you a good start in value/growth investing. Other books on value/growth investing include Peter Lynch's (Average Annual Return of 29.2% return for 13yr), Joel Greenblatt "Magic Formula"(Average Annual Return of 50% for 10yr), and Jim Crammer "Mad Money"(Average Annual return of 24% for 14yr). |
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Nov 24 2010, 12:23 PM
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Read the books by Jesse Livermore or related to him if you are interested to be a Trader.
Tittle: Reminiscences of a Stock Operator How To Trade In Stocks |
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Nov 24 2010, 08:07 PM
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can someone recommend book on how to read and company's financial statement and how to use the data to our own advantage and detecting if there is possible fraud in the statement
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Nov 24 2010, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Nov 24 2010, 08:07 PM) can someone recommend book on how to read and company's financial statement and how to use the data to our own advantage and detecting if there is possible fraud in the statement Try the art of short selling : http://www.amazon.com/Art-Short-Selling-Ma...k/dp/0471146323Teaches you how to do fundamentally driven short selling, which basically talk about how to detect fraudulent or overvalued companies. If a stock is something that can be shorted, it also means that the stock is something that you should avoid.Not sure whether the book is still available though as it is quite old, but, it is certainly one of the best fundamental analysis book I have ever read. Perhaps, a certain level of accounting knowledge is required to read this book. To get a sample of whether the book is too hard for you, listen to this short selling lecture by the author here : http://www.simoleonsense.com/video-on-the-...-short-selling/ . Don't forget to download the notes that goes with the lecture. This post has been edited by the snowball: Nov 24 2010, 09:27 PM |
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Dec 1 2010, 02:38 AM
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Phil Town Rule No. 1.
It's the easiest to read, and it teaches the most. Too bad its on the us market though. PS: The snowball on warren buffett is a rubbish book. Warren Buffett himself doesnt like the book. It's more like an interpretation of Warren Buffett, rather than an autobiography. The views in there are all subject to the author's discretion. This post has been edited by flight: Dec 1 2010, 02:41 AM |
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QUOTE(flight @ Dec 1 2010, 02:38 AM) PS: The snowball on warren buffett is a rubbish book. Warren Buffett himself doesnt like the book. It's more like an interpretation of Warren Buffett, rather than an autobiography. The views in there are all subject to the author's discretion. But, still, opinions are quite divided on the book. I am on the like side.... |
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Dec 1 2010, 10:09 AM
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What investments professionals read or have in their library:
Text & Reference books (technical nature, some very technical and advanced level): 1. Investments - Bodie, Kane & Marcus 2. Options, Futures and Other Derivatives - John Hull 3. The Handbook of Fixed Income Securities - Frank Fabozzi 4. Credit Derivatives - Satyajit Das For reading: 1. Traders, Guns & Money - Satyajit Das 2. Liar's Poker - Michael Lewis (a classic) 3. The Big Short - Michael Lewis (the global financial crisis 2007-2008) 4. The Vandal's Crown - Gregory Millman (George Soros and how he made US$2 billion profit in one day and defeated the Bank of England, how Bank Negara lost billions in currency speculation, etc - this book was quoted by Dr M during the height of the Asian Financial Crisis) 5. Barbarians at the Gate: The Fall of RJR Nabisco - Bryan Burrough & John Helyar (the takeover battle for RJR Nabisco, a classic) 6. Too Big To Fail - Andrew Ross Sorkin (the global financial crisis 2007-2008) 7. Den of Thieves - James Stewart (insider trading on Wall Street) 8. The Predator's Ball: The Inside Story of Drexel Burnham and the Rise of the Junk Bond Raiders - Connie Bruck (how Michael Milken started out and became infamous in the junk bond market, and his downfall) 9. Hard Drive: Bill Gates and the Making of the Microsoft Empire - James Wallace & Jim Erickson (a bit old, but insightful story of the early years of Microsoft and how they built their dominance) 10. House of Cards - William Cohan (the collapse of Bear Stearns over 10 days in 2008) For those interested in technology and how the PC started: 1. Fire in the Valley: The Making of The Personal Computer - Paul Freiberger & Michael Swaine (was made into a TV movie which focused on Steve Jobs and Bill Gates) |
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Dec 3 2010, 09:44 PM
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I not a fan of buffet & kinda bias
The Timeless Wisdom Of Jesse Livermore Whyis stock investing hard? Take a step back to think, and you realize that stock trading is the intersection of many realms of knowledge. Business. The economy. Finance. Innovation and technology. Government policy. The market. And don’t forget psychology. The more an investor knows about each of these fields, the more likely he or she will excel in the task of buying and selling stocks properly. In the field of psychology alone, you have multiple topics to ponder. The psychology of the herd is important. So is the psychology of the self. Jesse Livermore, whose life spanned the 19th and 20th centuries, didn’t get a master’s degree in macro economics or a Ph.D. in cognitive behavior. But his experience, hard work, failures and successes across many bull and bear cycles make him one of the most respected stock and futures traders of all time. Livermore grew up poor in Massachusetts. He found his calling after discovering he had a knack for numbers and for seeing price trends. Trading firms called “bucket shops†across the country kicked him out after he amassed profits despite stringent house rules in margin. He eventually became a powerful buyer and short-seller on Wall Street. Tragically, a self-inflicted bullet ended Livermore’s life on Nov. 28, 1940. But his book “How to Trade in Stocksâ€remains a gem. As the following quotes from the first chapter “The Challenge of Speculation,†show, he defined genius in trading psychology. Why not let Livermore’s wisdom help you?.“Profits take care of themselves, but losses never do. The speculator has to insure himself against considerable losses by taking the first small loss.†Your insurance policy: Sell a stock if it falls 8% from your purchase price. No questions, no exceptions. Nobody will care if you sold at a loss. The market surely won’t. “Successful speculation is anything but a mere guess. To be consistently successful, an investor or speculator must have rules to guide him.†.“Speculators in stock markets have lost money. But I believe it is a safe statement that the money lost by speculation alone is small compared with the gigantic sums lost by so-called investors who have let their investments ride. From my viewpoint, the investors are the big gamblers. They make a bet, stay with it, and if it goes wrong, they lose it all.†Livermore offers a few examples. On April 28, 1902, New Haven & Hartford Railroad sold at $255 a share. On Jan. 2, 1940, it traded at $0.50. Chicago Northwestern went from $240 in January 1906 to “5/16, which is about $0.31 per share†on Jan. 2, 1940. Nearly 70 years later, some of America’s biggest banks took similar paths. “A few thoughts should be kept uppermost in mind. One is: Never sell a stock, because it seems high priced. You may watch the stock go from 10 to 50 and decide it is selling at too high a level. That is the time to determine what is to prevent it from starting at 50 and going to 150 under favorable earning conditions and good corporate management.†In a three-year rally from 2004 to 2007, Google GOOG didn’t stop at 200, 300, 400, 500, 600 or 700. “One other point: It is foolhardy to make a second trade, if your first trade shows you a loss. Never average losses. Let that thought be written indelibly upon your mind.†“It may surprise many to know that in my method of trading, when I see by my records that an upward trend is in progress, I become a buyer as soon as a stock makes a new high on its movement, after having had a normal reaction. The same applies whenever I take the short side. Why? Because I am following the trend at the time. My records signal me to go ahead!†Jesse Livermore, “How to Trade in Stocks†QUOTE(moody5 @ Nov 24 2010, 12:23 PM) |
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If you want to invest in local market, I would suggest "I Love Stocks" by Pauline Yong. Simple but give you an overall understanding of the stock market.
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Dec 4 2010, 09:15 PM
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To begin with, You have to start with basics. I mean You have to know the difference between bonds and funds,shares, deriatives, commodities and others. You can obtain the information from www.investopedia.com or www.nasdaq.com also www.klse.com. BTW Bursa sometimes makes free seminars, where different investment companies make presentations about stock market. You have to check it on their website if not mistaken is call KLSE TAlks. If You know everything I have mentioned before than You can start reading books about Warren Buffet, Soros and other famous investors.
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QUOTE(Larrylow @ Dec 4 2010, 05:03 PM) If you want to invest in local market, I would suggest "I Love Stocks" by Pauline Yong. Simple but give you an overall understanding of the stock market. Followed by "How to Make Money From Your Stock Investment Even in a Falling Market" by Ho Kok Mun, great insight |
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Dec 9 2010, 10:39 AM
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if u want to get a copy of Intelligent Investor can go visit my thread
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All bookstores seem to have roughly the same prices, only difference is the sale/promotions offered at certain period...
If you're a Popular member, there's 20% off for all books till end of the year |
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QUOTE(CSS @ Dec 23 2010, 07:24 PM) All bookstores seem to have roughly the same prices, only difference is the sale/promotions offered at certain period... There is? Last week when i visited Harris, I din't notice any sales going on.If you're a Popular member, there's 20% off for all books till end of the year |
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Dec 23 2010, 09:48 PM
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The New Buffetology by Mary Buffet and David Clark
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For extra reading, can consider Money in Warrants by Alan Voon. He explains the concept of warrant in stock market, and how to make profit from it.
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QUOTE(calistachan @ Oct 19 2007, 04:44 AM) I'm a degree student majoring in banking and finance. currently i'm very interested in stock market and investment. however, wat i'm learning in college is insufficient to teach me how to start investing. i'm very excited to learn more to analyze the stock market and investment technique. so any recommendation of books that i can refer to??? i'm just a beginner level. Tumpang thread..personally I read rich dad prophecy. |
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Some good books which I found good to learn from :
1. Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki 2. Learn to Earn by Peter Lynch 3. One Up Wall Street by Peter Lynch 4. Beating the Street by Peter Lynch These books can be bought at very competitive prices at bookdepsitory.co.uk (my favourite place to buy books). Also, there are good websites with wealth of information such as investopedia.com, fool.com and smartmoney.com (these are also my favourites). Have fun learning ! |
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QUOTE(calistachan @ Oct 19 2007, 03:44 AM) I'm a degree student majoring in banking and finance. currently i'm very interested in stock market and investment. however, wat i'm learning in college is insufficient to teach me how to start investing. i'm very excited to learn more to analyze the stock market and investment technique. so any recommendation of books that i can refer to??? i'm just a beginner level. Too many but the truth is less than 5 of the really good books is enough to get you a long way.Added on December 29, 2010, 2:40 pm QUOTE(lvlaTr1X @ Dec 28 2010, 04:27 PM) Some good books which I found good to learn from : Kiyosaki may be for the high schooler.. but Peter Lynch, I only know he's a major trader back in the day, why do you recommend all his books?1. Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki 2. Learn to Earn by Peter Lynch 3. One Up Wall Street by Peter Lynch 4. Beating the Street by Peter Lynch These books can be bought at very competitive prices at bookdepsitory.co.uk (my favourite place to buy books). Also, there are good websites with wealth of information such as investopedia.com, fool.com and smartmoney.com (these are also my favourites). Have fun learning ! This post has been edited by Polaris: Dec 29 2010, 02:40 PM |
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there are many books out there to suit all kinds of gamblers, investors, traders & etc
the trick is, r u able to apply theory into practice do u follow it 100% or u mix & match to see its results, its an art per se I know some r not interested & they rather let unit trust handle for them, no issues some also got truly burnt & they let unit trust handle for them it all depends on own preference anyway, I do hold short term & long term position there is nothing to update on long term position, coz it just sit there for dividend, bonus & etc if want to make thread discussable, then u'll only see discussion on short term position I have read & glance thru most of the books mentioned, but does it suit u? dun take forever to decide who u wanna follow all u need to do is put down ur real hard cash on the line Voila! ur emotions come to play!! can u follow ur own rules or those 100% theory books when that time comes |
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It's good to have a reading list while actively trading for reflection and revision purposes. |
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well then, here's to more reading. whether in bolehland can apply the concept or not? no idea
Nicolas Darvas was a renaissance man. Literate and athletic, he was good at a wide range of activities. He trained to be an economist at the University of Budapest. He earned a living at occupations as disparate as creating crossword puzzlesand sportswriting. He played championship pingpong. He toured Europe and the U.S. as one of the world’s highest paid ballroom dancers, book publisher Lyle Stuart noted in the preface of one of Darvas’ works. Darvas’ most enduring feat was conquering Wall Street — in his spare time. Still dancing full-time, he parlayed a $3,000 bet on a speculative Canadian mining stock into a series of investments that culminated in a $2.25 million portfolio. That success earned him a profile in Time magazine. His 1960 book, “How I Made $2,000,000 in the Stock Market,†was a best-seller. It still pops up on reading lists for investors. Darvas’ book is notable for its skepticism about Wall Street’s conventional wisdom. He wrote in a later book titled “Wall Street: The Other Las Vegasâ€: “Wall Street is nothing more than a huge gambling casino, bristling with dealers, croupiers and touts on one side and winners and suckers on the other. . . . I had been a winner and was determined to stay one.†He stayed one through his discovery of a strategy based on patterns formed by share prices. It was a strategythat involved no recommendations from analysts or brokers, no hot tips, no financial stories. The crux of his strategy was price and volume data. Darvas (1920-77) developed what he called his box theory. As some stocks climb, their share prices stay within a range. Some break through the bottom of that range — or box — and are less likely to rally much soon. Others rise and set up a new, higher box. As soon as a stock climbed to start a higher box, Darvas liked to buy. Gradually he realized that institutional support from big money on Wall Street helped keep top-performing stocks from falling out of their boxes. What his strategy boiled down to was capitalizing on winning stocks’ price gains. That approach would be familiar to investors who use and know the importance of charting stock patterns. Darvas arrived at his technique through a mix of circumstance and trial and error. Born in Hungary, he studied to be an economist at the University of Budapest. With the outbreak of World War II in 1939, he feared the Nazis and communists vying for control of his country. At age 23, with a forged visa and a little money, he fled to Turkey. Teaming with his half-sister Julia, they became one of the most popular professional dance duos in Europe and, later, America. In 1951 he came to the U.S. He trained diligently for eight hours a day to hone his hoofer skills. Darvas applied his dogged determination to learn about stocks. Soon he had read 200 books on investing. His first stock was offered to him in 1952 by two Toronto nightclub owners. The impresarios said they would pay him for a dancing engagement with 6,000 shares of Brilund, a Canadian mining firm. The stock then was worth 50 cents a share. Darvas didn’t take the Toronto gig. But to show goodwill, he bought their Brilund stock for $3,000. He forgot about it until months later. He glanced at the stock’s price in the paper. “I shot upright in my chair,†he wrote in “How I Made.†“My50-cent Brilund stock was quoted at $1.90. I sold it at once and made a profit of close to $8,000.†He inspected charts. He noticed that as stocks moved up, they traded within a range. Leading stocks moved up again, trading in a higher range. He called each range the stock’s box. When a stock pulled back within a box, that was often a sign it would vault into a higher box. “Before a dancer leaps into the air he goes into a crouch to set himself for the spring,†Darvas wrote. |
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Jul 27 2011, 11:44 AM
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I have just finished reading "I Love Stocks" by Pauline Yong, so which is the next local books for beginners to read? I just went to popular bookstore and there are so many!!!
Which of the following should I choose: 1. Stock Market Secrets - Andrew Chia 2. Infinite Wealth - Lai Seng Choy 3. Conrad Alvin Lim/ Adam Khoo's books 4. How to make money from your stock investment even in a falling market - Ho Kok Mun 5. Roadmap to Financial Freedom - Yap Ming Hui Pls advise, thx! |
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Jul 27 2011, 10:28 PM
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Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham for Sale. Anyone interested can PM me.
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Jul 31 2011, 12:16 AM
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Rule #1 by Phil Town.
This is hands down one of the best books to read on value investing. It's also very easy to understand. It even explains to u step by step how to start and what to look out for. Highly recommended, it doesnt look like much. But the simplicity is its best trait. But its mostly related to the US market. |
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Oct 4 2011, 10:26 AM
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Here's a list of my favorite stock investment books. No Robert Kiyosaki here as he's nothing but a conman.
1.) Adam Smith - The Money Game 2.) Peter Lynch - One up on Wall Street 3.) Mackay - Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (EXCELLENT book for all investors. Lessons still apply even now) 4.) Burton Malkiel - A random walk down Wall Street. |
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Oct 4 2011, 09:34 PM
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Read this classic,
Investment Psychology Explained: Classic Strategies to Beat the Markets by Martin J Pring It will sooth the mind of those investor with fear and greed. |
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Oct 4 2011, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Nov 23 2010, 04:21 PM) anybody here has a copy of Neoh Kean Soon : stock market in singapore and malaysia? I have read this book before. It was the standard textbook for the subject of investment in USM. It is easily understood with simple English. It is mainly on fundamental analysis. I think it is already out of print. Maybe, u can contact Dynaquest if they still have a copy. Dr Neoh is the boss of Dynaquestdo you know how to get the copy now ? Added on November 23, 2010, 7:31 pmLooking for Stock Market Investment In Malaysia and Singapore for sale. Can nego the price if available. This post has been edited by Oracles99: Oct 4 2011, 10:15 PM |
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Oct 4 2011, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(flight @ Jul 31 2011, 12:16 AM) Rule #1 by Phil Town. I can't get calculated ROIC mentioned in the book. Do you have any idea any KLSE related website that provide the figure?This is hands down one of the best books to read on value investing. It's also very easy to understand. It even explains to u step by step how to start and what to look out for. Highly recommended, it doesnt look like much. But the simplicity is its best trait. But its mostly related to the US market. |
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Jul 22 2012, 12:17 PM
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Check out the latest version of this book.
According to the publisher: "How to Make Money from Your Stock Investment Even in a Falling Market (Updated Edition) by Ho Kok Mun - RRP: RM49.90 Combining the facts from another bestselling title of Kok Mun "Essential Stock Investment Strategies to Make Money Even in the Falling Market", this book provides the knowledge and skills of stock investing in layman context where everyone can apply right away!" First and second book are combined and revised. Check out the author's Facebook. Very informative! https://www.facebook.com/HoKokMun.StockInvestment This post has been edited by whyme: Mar 17 2018, 07:48 PM |
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Nov 18 2012, 03:17 PM
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any books that teaches more on value investing ? or fundamental analysis like W.Buffett
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Nov 18 2012, 06:35 PM
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Nov 19 2012, 12:32 AM
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My personal advice is, learn from the best, Warren Buffett, and read what is recommended by him.
The Intelligent Investor Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits The Essays of Warren Buffett I own the first 2. I read them, and keep reading them repeatedly. Every-time I read them again and again, I learn something new. I still not yet own the third one, but I am going to do so. |
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Nov 23 2012, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(yccheok @ Nov 19 2012, 12:32 AM) My personal advice is, learn from the best, Warren Buffett, and read what is recommended by him. +1 to intelligent investor..The Intelligent Investor Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits The Essays of Warren Buffett I own the first 2. I read them, and keep reading them repeatedly. Every-time I read them again and again, I learn something new. I still not yet own the third one, but I am going to do so. it is a damn good book... would recommend security analysis written by graham and dod if you are interested in stock market.. |
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Dec 28 2012, 01:13 AM
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A easy book to read on Malaysia stock market is" dividend don't lie" by Bill Wermine and Martin Wong , a local fund mgr and "supercharge your investing approach" by Martin Wong.
These books are practical and the writers seem to have local know how to the financial stock market. Available in popular bookstore but cannot find them in mph though. |
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Dec 29 2014, 09:31 PM
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Dec 29 2014, 09:39 PM
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can the techniques highlighted by the US investor be applied to Bursa Malaysia ? what if we found a good company but low volume. Most probably will not go up. Now people trade high volume counter
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Dec 30 2014, 10:09 AM
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You should read books on technical analysis. With internet charts are now easily available. This explains why prices move faster than before. The question u asked can be answered by technical analysis. Back in the 1980s, when I was a freshie, I was caught by the market buying an illiquid stock. Fundamentally sound stock but it hardly moves.
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