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mwkh_hope
post Dec 4 2007, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(raist86 @ Dec 1 2007, 11:58 PM)
haha.. looks like all live sound mixers are all from church background. smile.gif

an idea just hit me.. cos a friend was asking me about it. Possible to use a bass amp to run it as a subwoofer? He was saying that his church too small to afford a proper sub and amp, but their service like no kick because cannot project lower frequencies. His mixer has a channel for sub with frequency cutoff selection.
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You cant bass amp as sub.. Coz bass amp has build in amp & pre-amp, but for sub, is direct. it will project out what ever source they have.

Well, i suggest that your friend go car's sub with double coil ( for better performance.) Add an amp & AC-DC inverter.
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post Dec 4 2007, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(raist86 @ Oct 21 2007, 05:20 PM)
haha to hear their own out-of-tuneness perhaps? tongue.gif


Added on October 26, 2007, 1:04 pmSigh.. headache.. the electricians wired our electrical outlets wrongly.. we specifically asked for one phase solely for sound system and equipments.. mana tau, they go mix it up with the lighting..

Now everytime we turn on the lights, the system will go .. "pop pop"... headache headache.. Any idea on how to fix it short of ripping out all the cables and rewiring it again (cos plaster ceiling already in place). If dun fix, sooner or later, the speaker's drivers gonna go, and apogee drivers don't come cheap..
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Well, there's a few solution that i can think of. You can check no. of your current light point. If less, you can ask the electrician to redo the wiring to other point. It would be better that you spend small amount rather than in future spend big amount of changing speaker.

2nd option: From ur main box, pull electric cable for ur PA. it would be external wiring.... Not so nice N tidy.... use metal box / aluminum to do covering.
Bassix
post Dec 9 2007, 12:00 AM

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dunno if this is the right place but move me if i'm wrong:

Need soundman for concert in sunway PJS area. Church concert. PM me for details if you're interested in helping out.
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post Dec 9 2007, 01:53 AM

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I'm another live soundman.. again from a church background. Although I've pretty much transitioned to studio recording these days..
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post Dec 9 2007, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Dec 9 2007, 12:00 AM)
dunno if this is the right place but move me if i'm wrong:

Need soundman for concert in sunway PJS area. Church concert. PM me for details if you're interested in helping out.
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Need soundman?? I thought that it was included when you rent equipment from them? I wish to join but unfortunely I'm from Sarawak.


I was wondering, is it good that we add some info like where we from? What church we from? What equipment we are using or u can post some pictures as well.
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post Dec 10 2007, 02:28 AM

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we didn't rent anything we have all equipment. Just need a soundman to help out now.

It's a paying job btw, although cannot afford a pro tongue.gif
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post Dec 11 2007, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(raist86 @ Oct 19 2007, 02:40 AM)
One question, would you guys be interested to join short courses (2 - 84 weekends) for basic and intermediate audio/mixing course?
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By any chance would this be still on? Its good to note that I'm just a simple guitarist and I've NEVER done mixing in my life. But I would really like to learn a little bit of everything biggrin.gif
Oh, i got no church to play for if anyones wondering haha

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TSraist86
post Dec 14 2007, 01:15 AM

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aww bassix, would've loved to help but i'm in Suzhou now.. Sob sob, miss a chance to learn and apply what i know.

As for listing location and etc, i'm all for it. But try not to go into bragging ok? smile.gif we're all here to learn.

I'm currently living in USJ, doing my mixing in Hosanna Praise Assembly which is located in USJ. We have the following equipment (pardon me if i don't remember the model number), listed it according to chain:

Yamaha 32MG Analog mixer (my favorite piece of equipment)
Yamaha 31-band house equalizer
Alexis Compressor/Gate
Apogee processor
Apogee amplifier
Apogee AE-5 speakers
(not in chain)
Shure wireless handheld (going to be broken/dying)
Seinheisser wireless lapel (the feedback queen)
MiPro wireless lapel (new gear)
Behringer Feedback Destroyer Pro (BYE BYE FEEDBACKS.. or so we thought)


Added on December 14, 2007, 1:15 ami'll try to snap a picture when i get back from China.

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mwkh_hope
post Dec 24 2007, 10:16 AM

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For me, I'm doing mixing for Hope Place at Kuching.

The equipment that I'm using now:

Mackie 20 channel mixer
QSC 2 channel power amp
CA 900 power amp for front stage feedback
Road Rocking 300watt speaker (for stage feedback)

Audio technical cordless mic
Senheiser G2 e100 cordless mic ( 2 set)
Senheiser e865 wired mic (2 pc)

Very simple equipment...
iamzacky
post Dec 31 2007, 03:13 PM

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is there any big place...as in spacious...like a hangar or an empty swimming pool in kuala lumpur...so i can create a natural reverb sound in my recording? saw sigur ros did it...blow me away.
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post Mar 12 2008, 03:29 PM

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Any tips or guide can share at here about recording or mixing.


Everyone can learn & exchange ideas together.. hehe

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post Mar 12 2008, 06:41 PM

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i come from a tiny church with minimal equipment but i wld like to learn how to mix. does anyone know any live event companies that invite interns? or any churches that would accept me jst to learn?
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post Mar 22 2008, 01:54 AM

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Hi guys, here's something that I picked up from some of my experiences coordinating large halls. For large venues, I would suggest that you stress on the importance of stereo panning of the different instruments on the stage through the mixer. Trust me, having the guitars, keyboards, and drums blasting out from both left and right channels even at low volumes will cause bass boom and feedback. Panning the individual instruments left and right will cancel out most of the resonance (improves on clarity also:)).

Hope my 2 cents helps wink.gif
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post Mar 23 2008, 07:45 PM

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y dont u find some part time in sound and lighting team. there a lot to learn at there..... but very suffering 1
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post Apr 3 2008, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(nkphnx @ Mar 22 2008, 01:54 AM)
Hi guys, here's something that I picked up from some of my experiences coordinating large halls. For large venues, I would suggest that you stress on the importance of stereo panning of the different instruments on the stage through the mixer. Trust me, having the guitars, keyboards, and drums blasting out from both left and right channels even at low volumes will cause bass boom and feedback. Panning the individual instruments left and right will cancel out most of the resonance (improves on clarity also:)).

Hope my 2 cents helps wink.gif
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Hi nkphx,

can u explain more abt the locating of the stereo with instrument through the mixer? u can provide diagram to help ur explanation...


I'm interested to learn...



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post Apr 10 2008, 01:10 AM

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Hi hope,

Don't have any diagrams to show you though but I'll try my best ..tongue.gif For example, you have 2 electric guitars that will be playing at the same time. You'll pan Guitar 1 to the left and Guitar 2 to the right so as to separate the sounds coming out from the main PA speakers..

So in essence, both guitars can play at normalized volume with each of them able to be heard clearly by the audience via left and right PA speakers. Same goes to other instruments that are loud and needs clarity like keyboards and also drum toms. So when the keyboards and the guitars are hitting a low E at the same time, you will less likely to get the bass boom and audience can also differentiate the instruments better..

But you need to make sure your PA is wired for stereo, else the sound still comes out unpanned on a mono setup. Hope this helps...cheers smile.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 10:50 AM

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Yeap. that's what i'll normally do too. Usually i'll pan the instruments according to their positions. For example, my backups usually stand on the left side of the stage, so i'll pan them slightly to the left. Keys and synth are located on the right side. Instead of putting them both on the same channel, i'll put one on each side.
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post Apr 16 2008, 08:44 PM

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Cool. this is something new to me.. My previous setting was like this, Now i understand why my setting of music is "noisy" during high praise.

thx for the tips man...
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post May 22 2008, 04:29 PM

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Who know what type of headphone to get for mixing? hmm.gif

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