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TSAgent 45
post Jun 1 2023, 09:47 AM, updated 3y ago

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Hi all, anyone know how to get 90% loan on 3rd property?

Currently i have 2 property loan,

1) Loan 1 outstanding RM13k, advance payment 200k
2) Loan 2 outstanding RM312k

I dump most of my saving into my 1st loan to save on interest but i do not intend to pay off as this will deplete my saving. I'm looking to get a 3rd property around RM400k, i read somewhere that we can actually combine 2 loan into 1 loan and so still able to get 90% loan for 3rd property? Anyone done this before?
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post Jun 1 2023, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Agent 45 @ Jun 1 2023, 09:47 AM)
Hi all, anyone know how to get 90% loan on 3rd property?

Currently i have 2 property loan,

1) Loan 1 outstanding RM13k, advance payment 200k
2) Loan 2 outstanding RM312k

I dump most of my saving into my 1st loan to save on interest but i do not intend to pay off as this will deplete my saving. I'm looking to get a 3rd property around RM400k, i read somewhere that we can actually combine 2 loan into 1 loan and so still able to get 90% loan for 3rd property? Anyone done this before?
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Yes, you can do combine home loan which is call refinance with debt conso with home. However, is depend on ur loan 2 market value.

Let's said ur loan 2 market value is around 800k, then u can refinance with cash out to settle ur loan 1. After that , u can apply ur 3rd property with 90% margin.

I got help my client to process this type of refinance.
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post Jun 1 2023, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Pac Lease @ Jun 1 2023, 10:15 AM)
Yes, you can do combine home loan which is call refinance with debt conso with home.  However, is depend on ur loan 2 market value.

Let's said ur loan 2 market value is around 800k, then u can refinance with cash out to settle ur loan 1. After that , u can apply ur 3rd property with 90% margin.

I got help my client to process this type of refinance.
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my loan 2 market value is around 380k, which means this method is not possible?
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post Jun 1 2023, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Agent 45 @ Jun 1 2023, 10:22 AM)
my loan 2 market value is around 380k, which means this method is not possible?
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If debt conso like what Luis mentioned, it is possible.

Debt conso : 312k + 13k = 325k ( / 380k = 85.5% loan, using second property to refinance)
So loan 1 settled and you may buy the next prop as 2nd housing loan for up to 90% loan.

In your case, there are 2 things you can reconsider,
1. Is your interest rate high or low compare to current rate, if worth to change bank.
2. If you refinance again, you need to repay loan legal fee for 325k loan.

But I wonder why you dumped in 200k cash as advance payment for a loan with just outstanding 13k? The quickest way is, settled the loan 1 bcz only 13k outstanding.

You can use the 200k to settled the 13k redemption and put the balance 187k into your Loan 2 as capital repayment, so you only required to pay interest for 125k portion (312k - 187k = 125k) only and you can still withdraw the 187k anytime.
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post Jun 1 2023, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Hermes Aspiration @ Jun 1 2023, 10:55 AM)
If debt conso like what Luis mentioned, it is possible.

Debt conso : 312k + 13k = 325k ( / 380k = 85.5% loan, using second property to refinance)
So loan 1 settled and you may buy the next prop as 2nd housing loan for up to 90% loan.

In your case, there are 2 things you can reconsider,
1. Is your interest rate high or low compare to current rate, if worth to change bank.
2. If you refinance again, you need to repay loan legal fee for 325k loan.

But I wonder why you dumped in 200k cash as advance payment for a loan with just outstanding 13k? The quickest way is, settled the loan 1 bcz only 13k outstanding.

You can use the 200k to settled the 13k redemption and put the balance 187k into your Loan 2 as capital repayment, so you only required to pay interest for 125k portion (312k - 187k = 125k) only and you can still withdraw the 187k anytime.
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this actually is an good idea.

settle loan 1, dump all the advance payment into loan 2, then your next property will consider as your 2nd property and you're entitle for 90% loan ady
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post Jun 1 2023, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Hermes Aspiration @ Jun 1 2023, 10:55 AM)
If debt conso like what Luis mentioned, it is possible.

Debt conso : 312k + 13k = 325k ( / 380k = 85.5% loan, using second property to refinance)
So loan 1 settled and you may buy the next prop as 2nd housing loan for up to 90% loan.

In your case, there are 2 things you can reconsider,
1. Is your interest rate high or low compare to current rate, if worth to change bank.
2. If you refinance again, you need to repay loan legal fee for 325k loan.

But I wonder why you dumped in 200k cash as advance payment for a loan with just outstanding 13k? The quickest way is, settled the loan 1 bcz only 13k outstanding.

You can use the 200k to settled the 13k redemption and put the balance 187k into your Loan 2 as capital repayment, so you only required to pay interest for 125k portion (312k - 187k = 125k) only and you can still withdraw the 187k anytime.
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I believe what he means is total outstanding loan 1 is 213k ?? That's why he dump 200k as advance payment to save interest maybe.
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post Jun 1 2023, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(bengyson @ Jun 1 2023, 11:16 AM)
I believe what he means is total outstanding loan 1 is 213k ?? That's why he dump 200k as advance payment to save interest maybe.
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yea, this is correct sweat.gif
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post Jun 1 2023, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Agent 45 @ Jun 1 2023, 10:22 AM)
my loan 2 market value is around 380k, which means this method is not possible?
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Then will unable to do so if market value is around 380k. Cant cash out to settle ur 213k loan.
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post Jun 1 2023, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Agent 45 @ Jun 1 2023, 11:40 AM)
yea, this is correct sweat.gif
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Let me teach u this way, see if this works.

1) settle the 13k out standing on house 1, u will be left with only 1 housing loan on house 2.
2) then go take a 90% loan for your new house 3 under your 2nd 90% housing loan quota.
3) after completed the above, go refinance your house 1 with a 70% loan and get back your rm200k cash.


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post Jun 1 2023, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(bengyson @ Jun 1 2023, 11:16 AM)
I believe what he means is total outstanding loan 1 is 213k ?? That's why he dump 200k as advance payment to save interest maybe.
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Alamak, then totally confusing dy. I also wonder why put in 200k cash.

As advance payment is totally not the same as capital reduction and did not saved any interest at all, I not sure what he means then.
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post Jun 1 2023, 03:59 PM

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Don't get yourself confused. The ruling is not 2nd or 3rd on loan, its 3rd property ownership.

Meaning to say, even you are on 1 loan but already owned 2 properties under your name, 3rd property under your name, 90% is not permissible for this 3rd ownership purchase.

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jun 1 2023, 04:01 PM
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post Jun 1 2023, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jun 1 2023, 03:59 PM)
Don't get yourself confused. The ruling is not 2nd or 3rd on loan, its 3rd property ownership.

Meaning to say, even you are on 1 loan but already owned 2 properties under your name, 3rd property under your name, 90% is not permissible for this 3rd ownership purchase.
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Bank guideline is referring on borrower ccris record got how many housing loan account. If is more than 2 home loan, the new home loan margin max will be 70%.

Bank is not referring to how many property that u have which is already pay off.
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post Jun 1 2023, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Hermes Aspiration @ Jun 1 2023, 03:29 PM)
Alamak, then totally confusing dy. I also wonder why put in 200k cash.

As advance payment is totally not the same as capital reduction and did not saved any interest at all, I not sure what he means then.
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If is under semi flexi loan, advance payment will be recognize by principle deduction and save interest.
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post Jun 1 2023, 04:13 PM

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i believe TS wan the flexibility of loan 1 RM200k and also getting loan 3 with 90% amount.
so if he settle loan 1, he will be in trouble when he in urgently need to use the 200k

This post has been edited by shaoching: Jun 1 2023, 04:14 PM
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post Jun 1 2023, 04:17 PM

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post Jun 1 2023, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Pac Lease @ Jun 1 2023, 04:10 PM)
Bank guideline is referring on borrower ccris record got how many housing loan account. If is more than 2 home loan, the new home loan margin max will be 70%.

Bank is not referring to how many property that u have which is already pay off.
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Really, ya kah? thanks for correcting me.
Then i misunderstood the ruling wrongly, its not as in property ownership, but its on 'x-th' ongoing loan facility. Hmmm. Mm

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jun 1 2023, 04:30 PM
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post Jun 1 2023, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(shaoching @ Jun 1 2023, 04:13 PM)
i believe TS wan the flexibility of loan 1 RM200k and also getting loan 3 with 90% amount.
so if he settle loan 1, he will be in trouble when he in urgently need to use the 200k
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yea, u are right, thats why i prefer not to touch the 200k.
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post Jun 1 2023, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jun 1 2023, 02:56 PM)
Let me teach u this way, see if this works.

1) settle the 13k out standing on house 1, u will be left with only 1 housing loan on house 2.
2) then go take a 90% loan for your new house 3 under your 2nd 90% housing loan quota.
3) after completed the above, go refinance your house 1 with a 70% loan and get back your rm200k cash.
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good suggestion, i will look into it thumbsup.gif
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post Jun 1 2023, 04:43 PM

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Some of the "guru" will teach these:
1. Convert loan 1 and 2 to your IHC
2. Get loan 3 via AIA, but interest higher
3. 3rd party loan
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post Jun 1 2023, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jun 1 2023, 04:20 PM)
Really, ya kah? thanks for correcting me.
Then i misunderstood the ruling wrongly, its not as in property ownership, but its on 'x-th' ongoing loan facility. Hmmm. Mm
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