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TSachong09
post May 30 2023, 10:25 AM, updated 3y ago

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Recently Tm Unifi called uncle ask to upgrade current router ( wifi 5) to the new wifi 6 router foc. So far uncle no issue on the speed so far happy.. so does it neccessary to upgrade?
Uncle need to know/understand what diff between old router with new wigi 6 router? Uncle google tapi tak paham... anyone can advise/explain in simple way?

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post May 30 2023, 10:27 AM

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In simpler terms, Wi-Fi 6 is faster and can handle more devices simultaneously compared to Wi-Fi 5. It is designed to provide a better experience in crowded environments where multiple devices are competing for bandwidth, such as in busy homes or offices.

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post May 30 2023, 10:28 AM

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if it is free, why not. but probably need to recontract.
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post May 30 2023, 10:28 AM

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I own self buy wifi 6 router from wifi 4
Very big different on speed, respond
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post May 30 2023, 10:29 AM

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yes noticeable improvement

but if your plan is only 100mbps and only 1person use it no point unless it is free

UNIFI offer me upgrade 100mbps to 300mbps and upgrade to wifi6 router FOC. 2 years contract. I accept jer la.. since i no plan to change ISP.. so far very satisfied
RM 129 for 300mbps

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post May 30 2023, 10:29 AM

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If so far happy with the wifi coverage in terms of speed within the premise, no need change.

QUOTE(PJng @ May 30 2023, 10:28 AM)
I own self buy wifi 6 router from wifi 4
Very big different on speed, respond
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But TS is asking about wifi5 vs wifi 6
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post May 30 2023, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(achong09 @ May 30 2023, 10:25 AM)
Recently Tm Unifi called uncle ask to upgrade  current router ( wifi 5) to the new wifi 6 router foc. So far uncle no issue on the speed so far happy.. so does it neccessary to upgrade?
Uncle need to know/understand what diff between old router with new wigi 6 router? Uncle google tapi tak paham... anyone can advise/explain in simple way?
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Foc? Lol contract trap
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post May 30 2023, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(PJng @ May 30 2023, 10:28 AM)
I own self buy wifi 6 router from wifi 4
Very big different on speed, respond
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how to install the own wifi 6 router to the old wifi 5? seems need TM to reconfigure if the wifi 6 units is from another different address/account?
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post May 30 2023, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ May 30 2023, 10:31 AM)
how to install the own wifi 6 router to the old wifi 5? seems need TM to reconfigure if the wifi 6 units is from another different address/account?
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post May 30 2023, 10:33 AM

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all of my smart devices not much issue now, but cilaka now baru offer wifi 6 after migrate to maxsheet, where they offer wifi6 first
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post May 30 2023, 10:33 AM

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you already said yourself you are happy with current one, so why bother to change. Summore need to recontract.

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post May 30 2023, 10:33 AM

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If you always experience signal issue with shitty AC router then it’s worth to give AX a shot. Entry AX router like Asus performs quite well. Unifi mia forget it lah whistling.gif


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post May 30 2023, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(overlimit @ May 30 2023, 10:30 AM)
Foc? Lol contract trap
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if landed property then unlikely another 2 year will suddenly have alternative ISP

so..might as well take it
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QUOTE(DM3 @ May 30 2023, 10:31 AM)
how to install the own wifi 6 router to the old wifi 5? seems need TM to reconfigure if the wifi 6 units is from another different address/account?
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Just need pppoe username and password
I chat to tm request info, so anytime i change router just set pppoe
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post May 30 2023, 10:35 AM

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Mine tm gave me dlink router which seems pretty good for entry model but some older devices like mi tv cannot connect. My cousin kena bagi some cheapass never heard of wifi 6 router brand and it kept having packet loss. Called tm and they replaced it with dlink wifi6 router
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post May 30 2023, 11:02 AM

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Are you got wifi6 devices in the first place or not?
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post May 30 2023, 11:03 AM

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i think, it will only make differences if wifi6 router is connected with wifi6 devices only...
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post May 30 2023, 11:04 AM

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Just yesterday my WiFi 5 asus Ac-86u failed after 5 years.
Replaced it with the WiFi 6 asus AX-86u.
This is actually just for an Ai mesh node.

But even then I do notice an increase in speed and coverage. I’ve about 40-50 IOT devices with around 10 pc/console/phone/tv/NAS that needs a constant connection.
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post May 30 2023, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ May 30 2023, 11:04 AM)
Just yesterday my WiFi 5 asus Ac-86u failed after 5 years.
Replaced it with the WiFi 6 asus AX-86u.
This is actually just for an Ai mesh node.

But even then I do notice an increase in speed and coverage. I’ve about 40-50 IOT devices with around 10 pc/console/phone/tv/NAS that needs a constant connection.
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where did you buy the AX-86u, any good deals?

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post May 30 2023, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 30 2023, 10:27 AM)
In simpler terms, Wi-Fi 6 is faster and can handle more devices simultaneously compared to Wi-Fi 5. It is designed to provide a better experience in crowded environments where multiple devices are competing for bandwidth, such as in busy homes or offices.

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faster?? hmm.... Msia internet speed can be that fast meh compare to other countries???

anyway uncle home alot of old devices wo... can support?
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post May 30 2023, 11:08 AM

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if your devices all potato wifi apa guna
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post May 30 2023, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(achong09 @ May 30 2023, 11:07 AM)
faster?? hmm.... Msia internet speed can be that fast meh compare to other countries???

anyway uncle home alot of old devices wo... can support?
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your package 100mbps ; later go somewhere far a bit n do speed test

with AC it might drop to 80 70mbps

but with AX ; same distance u still get 100mbps
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post May 30 2023, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 30 2023, 11:10 AM)
your package 100mbps ; later go somewhere far a bit n do speed test

with AC it might drop to 80 70mbps

but with AX ; same distance u still get 100mbps
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My package is 3000mbps...
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post May 30 2023, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ May 30 2023, 10:33 AM)
you already said yourself you are happy with current one, so why bother to change. Summore need to recontract.
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cause i read and ask around many say wifi 6 better than old one.. so tempted la.. so need genuine advise whether is it neccessary or not....
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post May 30 2023, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(dennis008 @ May 30 2023, 10:29 AM)
yes noticeable improvement

but if your plan is only 100mbps and only 1person use it no point unless it is free

UNIFI offer me upgrade 100mbps to 300mbps and upgrade to wifi6 router FOC. 2 years contract. I accept jer la.. since i no plan to change ISP.. so far very satisfied
RM 129 for 300mbps
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got similar offer, thought 300mbps 129 only for 6 months? After that price increase
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post May 30 2023, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(achong09 @ May 30 2023, 11:13 AM)
cause i read and ask around many say wifi 6 better than  old one.. so tempted la.. so need genuine advise whether is it neccessary or not....
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my suggestion is just go buy your own wifi 6 router, no need re-contract with unifi

configure also very easy, just need to know your unifi id & password
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post May 30 2023, 11:26 AM

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Cable > wufi 6
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post May 30 2023, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(achong09 @ May 30 2023, 11:13 AM)
cause i read and ask around many say wifi 6 better than  old one.. so tempted la.. so need genuine advise whether is it neccessary or not....
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Genuine advice - not necessary.

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post May 30 2023, 11:28 AM

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Not necessary

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post May 30 2023, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(achong09 @ May 30 2023, 11:13 AM)
cause i read and ask around many say wifi 6 better than  old one.. so tempted la.. so need genuine advise whether is it neccessary or not....
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Recontract then jz recontract la, unless u high rise or some weird land place got TIME, else unifi still better than other


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QUOTE(eidrag @ May 30 2023, 11:22 AM)
got similar offer, thought 300mbps 129 only for 6 months? After that price increase
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nope for me. upgraded since early 2022 still same price
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post May 30 2023, 11:30 AM

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For me, from unifi dlink WiFi 5 to my self purchase tp link WiFi 6 big difference.

Now the whole house double storey dapat full speed while before upper floor half speed and my parents room takde coverage
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post May 30 2023, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ May 30 2023, 10:31 AM)
how to install the own wifi 6 router to the old wifi 5? seems need TM to reconfigure if the wifi 6 units is from another different address/account?
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Ya, u need different power adapter also. The karan is different
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post May 30 2023, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(achong09 @ May 30 2023, 10:25 AM)
Recently Tm Unifi called uncle ask to upgrade  current router ( wifi 5) to the new wifi 6 router foc. So far uncle no issue on the speed so far happy.. so does it neccessary to upgrade?
Uncle need to know/understand what diff between old router with new wigi 6 router? Uncle google tapi tak paham... anyone can advise/explain in simple way?
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Bro, it's not necessary to upgrade your router if you are currently happy with the speed and performance of your current router. However, upgrading to a newer router with better technology can potentially improve your internet speed and connectivity, especially if you have multiple devices connected to your network at the same time.

The main difference between a WiFi 5 and WiFi 6 router is the technology used to transmit data. WiFi 6 uses more advanced technology to deliver faster speeds and improve connectivity in crowded areas with many devices. It also has better security features and can handle more simultaneous connections than WiFi 5 routers.

However, whether you notice a significant improvement in your internet speed and performance with a WiFi 6 router may depend on various factors, such as the number of devices connected, the type of internet service you have, and the layout and size of your home.

If you're not sure whether to upgrade or not, you can ask the TM Unifi representative to provide more information about the benefits of upgrading to a WiFi 6 router and whether it would be worth it for your specific situation.
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When I upgraded my plan from 100 mbps to 300 mbps, the Wifi 6 router was issued free with the package. So far so good.
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QUOTE(DM3 @ May 30 2023, 10:31 AM)
how to install the own wifi 6 router to the old wifi 5? seems need TM to reconfigure if the wifi 6 units is from another different address/account?
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Not difficult actually unless you have absolute zero idea of the term used in the modem setup
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Upgrade if you don't mind the contract.
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post May 30 2023, 11:41 AM

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previously was using the old unifi DLink cylinder shape router. i was on 500Mbps package. always got 200-300mbps only.

my house got many cctvs also. and other devices as well.

after bought Asus AX82U wifi 6, can easily achieve 480-500mbps. Cost Rm950 at shopee last time.
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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ May 30 2023, 11:06 AM)
where did you buy the AX-86u, any good deals?
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Got it off Carousell.
Some sellers selling brand new China units for cheaper.

Your mileage may vary. But as this is just a node, I’ve another AX86u as the main router, I don’t mind taking the risk.
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QUOTE(eclectice @ May 30 2023, 11:34 AM)
Bro, it's not necessary to upgrade your router if you are currently happy with the speed and performance of your current router. However, upgrading to a newer router with better technology can potentially improve your internet speed and connectivity, especially if you have multiple devices connected to your network at the same time.

The main difference between a WiFi 5 and WiFi 6 router is the technology used to transmit data. WiFi 6 uses more advanced technology to deliver faster speeds and improve connectivity in crowded areas with many devices. It also has better security features and can handle more simultaneous connections than WiFi 5 routers.

However, whether you notice a significant improvement in your internet speed and performance with a WiFi 6 router may depend on various factors, such as the number of devices connected, the type of internet service you have, and the layout and size of your home.

If you're not sure whether to upgrade or not, you can ask the TM Unifi representative to provide more information about the benefits of upgrading to a WiFi 6 router and whether it would be worth it for your specific situation.
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From the feature advertised with the WiFi 5, basically it was basically covered most of the feature that WiFi 6 has. Most modems were released with future features yet to be made official by the IEEE. Usually before any new features are made official, the draft is well known to manufacturers.

New technologies introduced with 802.11ac include the following:
Extended channel binding
--Optional 160 MHz and mandatory 80 MHz channel bandwidth for stations; cf. 40 MHz maximum in 802.11n.

More MIMO spatial streams
--Support for up to eight spatial streams (vs. four in 802.11n)

Downlink multi-user MIMO (MU-MIMO, allows up to four simultaneous downlink MU-MIMO clients)
--Multiple STAs, each with one or more antennas, transmit or receive independent data streams simultaneously.
--Space-division multiple access (SDMA): streams not separated by frequency, but instead resolved spatially, analogous to 11n-style MIMO.
--Downlink MU-MIMO (one transmitting device, multiple receiving devices) included as an optional mode.

Modulation
--256-QAM, rate 3/4 and 5/6, added as optional modes (vs. 64-QAM, rate 5/6 maximum in 802.11n).
--Some vendors offer a non-standard 1024-QAM mode, providing 25% higher data rate compared to 256-QAM

Other elements/features
--Beamforming with standardized sounding and feedback for compatibility between vendors (non-standard in 802.11n made it hard for beamforming to work effectively between different vendor products)
--MAC modifications (mostly to support above changes)
--Coexistence mechanisms for 20, 40, 80, and 160 MHz channels, 11ac and 11a/n devices
--Adds four new fields to the PPDU header identifying the frame as a very high throughput (VHT) frame as opposed to 802.11n's high throughput (HT) or earlier. The first three fields in the header are readable by legacy devices to allow coexistence
sos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac-2013

The most significant feature is Uplink MU-MIMO. However, in home environment or most home users only made quest on the uplink. So, there will be nothing significant in uplink MU-MIMO.
If you need to pay to replace the WiFi router, I'd say just skip it. smile.gif
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QUOTE(LegendLee @ May 30 2023, 11:46 AM)
Got it off Carousell.
Some sellers selling brand new China units for cheaper.

Your mileage may vary. But as this is just a node, I’ve another AX86u as the main router, I don’t mind taking the risk.
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Do note that China modem for China market and for international market most likely different. China regulation in transmit power is lower than allowed in Malaysia. So, the range will be affected due to lower power. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ May 30 2023, 11:41 AM)
previously was using the old unifi DLink cylinder shape router. i was on 500Mbps package. always got 200-300mbps only.

my house got many cctvs also. and other devices as well.

after bought Asus AX82U wifi 6, can easily achieve 480-500mbps. Cost Rm950 at shopee last time.
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wow, pricy.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ May 30 2023, 11:41 AM)
previously was using the old unifi DLink cylinder shape router. i was on 500Mbps package. always got 200-300mbps only.

my house got many cctvs also. and other devices as well.

after bought Asus AX82U wifi 6, can easily achieve 480-500mbps. Cost Rm950 at shopee last time.
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funfacts, ax82u is actually internally same as ax58u/tuf-3000

There’s firmware to softmod tuf-3000 to get 82u performance.
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post May 30 2023, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(kang6421 @ May 30 2023, 11:26 AM)
my suggestion is just go buy your own wifi 6 router, no need re-contract with unifi

configure also very easy, just need to know your unifi id & password
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 30 2023, 12:02 PM)
Do note that China modem for China market and for international market most likely different. China regulation in transmit power is lower than allowed in Malaysia. So, the range will be affected due to lower power.  smile.gif
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Oh. That’s an interesting bit of information.

But it should be alright.
Even on my local AX86u, I don’t set the Tx power adjustment to max (performance). It’s somewhere in the middle and it’s more than sufficient for my use case.

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