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mushigen
post May 30 2023, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(oec88 @ May 30 2023, 03:19 AM)
Let's say I am selling my own private vehicle and one buyer paid deposit to me with the agreed price. Due to personal reason, I want to keep this car again from selling and willingly to refund full deposit amount to buyer.

Will this brings any issue to me afterward? Legally, I am the owner of the vehicle on paper still.
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The way you wrote "willingly" suggests you think you're doing buyer a favour by refunding him (i stand corrected). Yes, there are people who cheat others by not refunding but surely you don't want to use them as yardstick? As in, as long as I refund, you should be grateful?

How much deposit did you collect?
How long has it been since you collected the money?
How did you communicate? Will he have any proof?

In a commercial setting, the buyer can and will sue. In private dealings, totally depends on the buyer. They either do nothing, sue you or "teach you a lesson".
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post May 30 2023, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(oec88 @ May 30 2023, 09:38 AM)
I would encourage everyone to be neutral in this kind of scenario, or share your past experience if you had any. No hater toward seller or buyer on this kind of situation please.

With the conversation in place between seller and buyer, buyer also did not state any TnC toward seller if deal fails but agreed with seller that deposit is refundable (seller offered refundable deposit process upon deal failure).

So far from those comments, a courtesy call of explanation with full refund of deposit, apology, minor compensation such as a meal/drink would be sufficient.
Like some said, what if the seller facing joy buyer? If given me the scenario, I'd deduct those fee that I spent on those process (e.g. inspection), refund deposit and move on. While I am aware some seller take it as earnest deposit, which they absorb the deposit money without refund to buyer.
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Kudos to you for not forfeiting the deposit of those who fail to buy. Unfortunately, "expect others to do to me what I do to others" doesn't apply to everyone.
Other sellers can forfeit the deposit of those who back out a deal.
And other buyers will demand compensation for failed deal.
Is a meal or drink enough to compensate? Probably not to a buyer who missed out on another deal after paying you the deposit.

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post May 30 2023, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(oec88 @ May 30 2023, 09:52 AM)
As a seller myself, I understand money is hard earned income. Deposit is definitely refundable on my stand.

On how much deposit did I collected? 2% of agreed total price.
Only collected and received about 1 week ago, then went ahead with loan settlement and scheduling inspection on own money.
Social Media platform, voice + text.

So what if facing joy buyer, can seller sue joy buyer after receiving deposit refund due to joy buying?
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What deposit refund? You choose to refund him and then decide to sue him?
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post May 30 2023, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(oec88 @ May 30 2023, 09:58 AM)
From what I read from internet and shared experience, the word used within the deal is also important.
Deposit and down payment are different meaning. While "deposit" was used within the deal.

Deposit - I am interested, I pay deposit to reserve then we further discuss until full deal stage.
Down payment - I am firm buying this hence I am paying partial amount of the selling price and to clear off remaining balance upon receiving goods.

Feel free to correct and share input on these two statements.
This thread can be a good lesson learning for peoples.
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Deposit can be part of down payment. Technical difference side, idk.

QUOTE(oec88 @ May 30 2023, 09:59 AM)
Kind of puzzle me because:

Seller call off deal and refund deposit to buyer, many said buyer can sue seller even deposit is refunded.
Buyer call off deal and receive deposit from seller, can seller sue buyer for being joy buyer?
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I think you got the concept wrong.

Buyer cancels, buyer loses deposit, as a form of penalty.
Seller cancels, takkan seller just refunds the deposit? No need to be penalised?

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post May 30 2023, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Chrix @ May 30 2023, 02:15 PM)
private sale, so only between buyer & seller

if u seller want to cancel & return, then buyer take back money. simple.

if buyer bising, dont want money, then u keep money.

I just purchased my 10th car, all my cars are private buy & sell.

There is no written agreement between buyer & seller then no need ask too much. Its all verbal only.
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TS mentioned he communicated via social media and messaging, so that's written proof.
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post May 30 2023, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(Chrix @ May 30 2023, 05:12 PM)

That sentence is after mentioning my experience, not TS.

also, ts giving example, not actual.. and also no explicit mention of breach condition
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I'm saying that using TS' example of communicating via social media, it's not considered verbal agreement. It's written agreement. I wasn't referring to your experience.

 

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