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 AMD® Socket-AM2/AM2+ Overclocking thread (V3), Phenom... Here AMD goes

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post Dec 14 2007, 06:44 PM

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Its ok, your temp is fine. Only if it goes beyond 65C then its worrying. Using valueram to OC is fine, it will still hold you back, but only at high OC. For example, you're using 667 valueram-if you set the ram speed manually to 400 while mantaining the timings used at 667, and perform a 50% overclock resulting in a processor speed of 3Ghz, then the ram will also be overclocked 50% from 400, resulting in 600, which mean you still haven't overclocked the ram. Keep in mind though that this is just in theory, while the numbers are correct, you may not be able to reach 3Ghz or will find it difficult, depending o luck and experience. You're using a Brisbane core, revision G1, which typically overclocks to 2.7-3.0Ghz with minimal voltage increases.
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post Dec 14 2007, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(jeromeccm @ Dec 14 2007, 02:53 PM)
true true....

Anybody using the same board as i am using now? TF7050? if this fella really cannot oc then i am going to sell already... buy something that can OC....
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haha..u addict to oc already..welcome to the club...hehe..
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post Dec 14 2007, 06:52 PM

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The 65C is for a single core or for total of the 2 cores? means,my Core1 is 34C and Core2 is 37C,the total is 71C. Like that?

I OCed through BIOS. For my mobo, in the BIOS,there's "RAM speed" setting if im not mistaken. So,is that setting used to set the RAM speed or the RAM timing? Im still confuse with the RAM setting. huhu..

Errmm,if can reach 2.5Ghz also will be nice because this is my 1st time OC. If I wanna OC further, which increment is recommended? Either the FSB or multiplier?

btw,thanks bro lohwenli for ur explanation..

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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 14 2007, 04:03 PM)
heya,

my cpu clock cannot go up from 216, wat should i do to make it go further?
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change ur memory divider to 400..then u try back...

EDIT :- when ask Q please include ur ss for cpu-z and so on...easy for us to help u..

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post Dec 14 2007, 07:07 PM

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can anyone send the the F3 ADO number... the upper top of the cpu code...
i need to send abit e-mail about the problem i have...

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post Dec 14 2007, 07:12 PM

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why i cant set my ram vdimm to 2.35v?
It will stuck at bios setup.

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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 14 2007, 07:12 PM)
why i cant set my ram vdimm to 2.35v?
It will stuck at bios setup.
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that's a bios bug that i mentioned earlier
set vdimm to 2.35v, actual vdimm back to 1.90v
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post Dec 14 2007, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 14 2007, 07:59 PM)
that's a bios bug that i mentioned earlier
set vdimm to 2.35v, actual vdimm back to 1.90v
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Now,im using 2.25v.Stated in the bios 2.25v also.
I dont think its sufficient to pump 1200mhz with Div 800.

Other things,what tRC i should use to run div 800 @ 3.2Ghz?
My current tRC is 11.
I tried MAL 7 and 8 still cant.
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post Dec 14 2007, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 14 2007, 06:52 PM)
The 65C is for a single core or for total of the 2 cores? means,my Core1 is 34C and Core2 is 37C,the total is 71C. Like that?

I OCed through BIOS. For my mobo, in the BIOS,there's "RAM speed" setting if im not mistaken. So,is that setting used to set the RAM speed or the RAM timing? Im still confuse with the RAM setting. huhu..

Errmm,if can reach 2.5Ghz also will be nice because this is my 1st time OC. If I wanna OC further, which increment is recommended? Either the FSB or multiplier?

btw,thanks bro lohwenli for ur explanation..
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Just remembered that you're using a Brisbane, the temp sensor does not work properly, there is no sure way of knowing the exaxt temp of the proc. Best way remaining is to feel the base of the heatsink, if it feels warm but not hot then its still ok. For other processors where the temp sensor works properly, make sure temp of either core does not go above 65 (don't add up the temp). If it does reach that high for a short while (like a few hours), no problem, but running for weeks at that temp is risky. 70C is about the limit before the processor lifespan get shortened noticably, though it will not affect the proc if its just for a while, but it recommended that you stop immediately. Processors in general don't die that easily from overheating anymore because there are safety trip-offs, its usually voltage that kills processors nowadays. Always be careful when playing with voltage, take advantage of others' experience. Voltage tweaking is particularly tempting to use despite the risk because its the one of the most sure ways to allow for higher overclocking.

For a start keep the multiplier high while increasing the HTT, don't touch the voltage yet. Spend time tweaking around other settings, none of them are particularly dangerous. Anything wrong, just reset the BIOS. AM2 is particularly sensitive to memory settings, keep that in mind.
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post Dec 14 2007, 09:09 PM

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i can only manage to use div800 @ 3.2ghz with 2.45V vidimm.

Thanx to dblooi.
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post Dec 14 2007, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 14 2007, 09:09 PM)
i can only manage to use div800 @ 3.2ghz with 2.45V vidimm.

Thanx to dblooi.
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so ur ram suppose to be running at ddr1280 rite? drool.gif
ur timing and sper pi1m result please..
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post Dec 14 2007, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 14 2007, 09:30 PM)
so ur ram suppose to be running at ddr1280 rite? drool.gif
ur timing and sper pi1m result please..
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This turns me down bro as at the speed,i only manage to use 1 stick of ram.
Now,im using back 3.45ghz with 667div running at 1150mhz. sweat.gif
But as for the vdimm,im still using 2.45v.

From what i achieved running 3.2ghz@800div.the super pi is only 25.+++sec.not much different btwn 3.45ghz@667 div.
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 14 2007, 08:26 PM)
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first of all,thanks for the info. very happy to know that.

will get back to my house ASAP and try it. now still in office,many works not finish yet cry.gif

about the temperature,other 3rd party software also cant detect the exact temp? or even update to the latest BIOS also still cant detect the exact temp? huhuhu...

for the HTT, i saw at my BIOS there, the highest is 1000mhz. so, can i set it to 1000mhz? after that value,cant go further?

thanks again for the help...
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post Dec 14 2007, 10:41 PM

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HTT, try to set below or near 1000 all the time. smile.gif

Not all AM2 can run stable > HTT 1000
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post Dec 14 2007, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 14 2007, 09:37 PM)
This turns me down bro as at the speed,i only manage to use 1 stick of ram.
Now,im using back 3.45ghz with 667div running at 1150mhz. sweat.gif
But as for the vdimm,im still using 2.45v.

From what i achieved running 3.2ghz@800div.the super pi is only 25.+++sec.not much different btwn 3.45ghz@667 div.
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can u run ddr1200 with two sticks?
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post Dec 14 2007, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Dec 14 2007, 10:41 PM)
HTT, try to set below or near 1000 all the time. smile.gif

Not all AM2 can run stable > HTT 1000
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Noted that. smile.gif
well,is it really big different with 1mhz for cpu speed?
For example,3.0ghz and 3.01ghz.It is big?

@alive88,yes,i do can run two sticks 1200@3.01ghz superPI 2.5secs.
but with 1200@3.2Ghz,i cant run two sticks.

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post Dec 14 2007, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 14 2007, 10:20 PM)
first of all,thanks for the info. very happy to know that.

will get back to my house ASAP and try it. now still in office,many works not finish yet  cry.gif

about the temperature,other 3rd party software also cant detect the exact temp? or even update to the latest BIOS also still cant detect the exact temp? huhuhu...

for the HTT, i saw at my BIOS there, the highest is 1000mhz. so, can i set it to 1000mhz? after that value,cant go further?

thanks again for the help...
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may i know what's the mobo that you are using now?
HT link is ocable, no worries icon_rolleyes.gif
IMO, HT link oc is as important as proc & ram oc in order to find out the best performance of ur rig


QUOTE(allenultra @ Dec 14 2007, 10:41 PM)
HTT, try to set below or near 1000 all the time. smile.gif

Not all AM2 can run stable > HTT 1000
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what you said is quite true.
but then IMHO , should try to find out what's the max HT link that ur mobo can go also ( like wat we did for proc and ram usually).

An optimize OCed rig shouldn't just focus on proc and ram oc only. HT link oc also playing a role for that (Especially those guys who are using integrated gc for gaming, you will benefit a lot if you oc the HT link laugh.gif ).
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 14 2007, 11:04 PM)
may i know what's the mobo that you are using now?
HT link is ocable, no worries icon_rolleyes.gif
IMO, HT link oc is as important as proc & ram oc in order to find out the best performance of ur rig
what you said is quite true.
but then IMHO , should try to find out what's the max HT link that ur mobo can go also ( like wat we did for proc and ram usually).

An optimize OCed rig shouldn't just focus on proc and ram oc only. HT link oc also playing a role for that (Especially those guys who are using integrated gc for gaming, you will benefit a lot if you oc the HT link laugh.gif ).
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In thats case,the perfect HTL should be around 900 to 1000 rite?
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post Dec 14 2007, 11:11 PM

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bro OCZ,wif ddr1200,what vdimm do u use and ur timing?
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This is one of the SS that i love most wub.gif
at 3.4GHz , ram at its CL4 limit and HT link at its max
and results of that,
super pi 1M result show up to be faster than usual at this speed brows.gif
if someone settle the electric bill for me, i will consider to use this settings for 24/7 as this is definitely a sweet spot for me laugh.gif

edited:

clockspeed = 3400MHz
ram speed = 1133MHz
ram timings= 4-4-3-3-2T
HT link = 1700MHz brows.gif

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