I thinking of using float 3char, instate of waiting them to bite the lure, i wanna attack them with the skill........
Dont you see them laughing at us yesterday.....we case on the left they ump up on the right, we case right they up on the left........char tou.!!!!

How was the Sunday's game?
Report pls...

muahahaha...bro Nico's concept

OR he always mentioned go market buy fish concept...kakakakka

I'm keen on this weekend's Linggi trip.... Since no one did jigging at that water before(as said by bro Nico) hopefully jigging would produce some good results.

BTW, bro Q...no camera or photo taking in the boat...the boatman dislikes it...

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Added on December 10, 2007, 9:59 ambro Tingky,
The result is on 125. practically not good result.

Bro Nico,
Teach me how to do bottom yah. I'll bring a spare rod for bottom. Gua tatao bottom techniques.. all the rigs and batu bata thingy...

This post has been edited by rorytate: Dec 10 2007, 09:59 AM

seriously .. batu ladung #16 and above ??
think about it oso damm scary liauu .. heavy duty sheet mannn .. hahahaha

i still dun understand about the weight thingy ler...

Max depth 80m = 240feet = min 250gram jig
Size 16~18 weight = 700~800grams....

If ONLY 800gram of weight can reach the bottom, what about 250~300gram of jig?

If the current is strong, i think 300gram of jig pun tarak cukup to reach bottom. Surely flying kite.

Bro Q has mentioned that the 800gram of weight have bait on it thus need heavier weight to bring the bait to the seabed. The bait creates drag in the current. BUT same goes our jig. Each of our jig have their actions, in such that the jig will flutter down, or swaying down...this is also due to the drag mah...

Anyone care to debate about the batu weight vs jig weight issue?

no need to debate laa .. this weekend can find out liauu .. hahahahahaa
the jigs i am bringing max max 230gn only .. coz i only know my hand can take that much .. any more than that cannot tahan to jig jig liauuu ... so no point .. hehehehe
my jigging technique oso no goog .. thats why cannot play with heavy jigs .. but see how lorr .. who knows maybe 230gm or less oso can reach bottom leh ?? hahahaahahaaa

But rory bro.. i heard that patin does get attracted to lures.. but aren't they some sort of dedak, flour and intestine hunters. but i've heard that ppl hooking up patins with lures before?? hmm how come ar?

bro Q,
I was hoping that 180gram of jig can reach the bottom. Just like our earlier Sun Vista trip....

bro Ice,
As what Unker says, patin wants to have a balanced diet mah...having some meat and more vege makes them healthy ma...kekek...

Jokes aside, YES patin is fishable using lures. Dont forget Patin is an insect eater too. As long as the lure looks like an insect, be it diving or floating, the Patin whacks the lure.

When i mean the lure look like an insect, it also means the lure is small(if not super small) and presenting such small lure is not easy.

What i can think about the presentation is:-
1. Little twitches to show that the insect(lure) is struggling at the water, trying to gasp for air or back to land/flying
2. Little movements to make the lure vibrating, just like a bug fell into the water. I have not learn how to make the lure vibrate on the water surface, but i manage to make some irregular vibrating feel by making the line slack. The lure that i use is a hornet which i landed a number of Peacock Bass. Maybe a maggot looking lure can work too.
3. Another method is erratic small floating lure SLIDING just like a water strider. Perhaps a small walke-the-dog lure can do the trick.

This is what i can think of as of now.

The Rebel Hornet lure

Available at Bass Pro at USD3.99

If you can show me a pic of what insects/nymphs patin would eat, I can tie one for you.
but another issue is whether you're able to cast it out, cost it will weigh less than 3 gms...

3 grams is still castable using BC or spinning. Anything less than that...susah looooo

well, given the size of the insect, it could possible to weigh less than 2..
i doubt that a fly looking like a wasp weighs more than 2gms..

bro rory, u already sifu lar, dont dare to teach u nia .. u kencing me is it? bottom rig very senang mia just taruk n wait.

bottom rig:- 3/0~5/0 hooks, 9~12 inch wire line then 2 "lam" of mono leader attach to spreader. All attached using double surgeon loop except the hook that utilize prawn hook method ..

bro Q, yeap min no#16 hehehe ketiak hancor bro!

and bro's gud news, according to tekong, few weeks ago got some jiggers folks caught some good size ang joh using jig in the morning.

finally sea condition gonna be a bit rough, please do arm yourself some nausea pills.

This post has been edited by nicotine: Dec 10 2007, 11:35 AM

Bro Nico,
Not kencing you lar...difference place have their specialty on rig ler..

You assist me in that lor...practically i'll use your baring for bottom fishing can boh? I'll bring my rod setup nia...hehehe

Aikks...got jigger oredi? IN his boat or locale news?

KNN ,... looks like this trip maybe i have to berley liau la like this ... rough seas .. hehehehehee

nvm .. will bring bottom and jig jig setup .. kasi parking and oso jig jig sometimes for fun ... hahahaahhaaaaa
wont use ketiak one la .. will use anti rape pad ...

sifu Q... dun talk so much lah... remanber tapau one ang cho for me hor..... around 3 to 10kg enough lioa... kekekkekekkeke

yeah bro on his boat, regarding my batu gila, i need to go home n check it out. your reel loaded with braid or mono? mono require heavier weight ...

hehehe tarak barley tarak ikan nia

just in case maybe one of you guys could prep yourself 1 set of #12,#14,#16,#18 and #20 because i fear that i dont had enuff to loan both of you.

others stuff for bottom-
1. 50lbs~60lbs wire line paria brand
2. 50lbs~60lbs mono paria brand
3. 7 inch line spreader.
4. Mustad big red 3/0, 4/0, 5/0 hooks
5. batu gila babi - #12,#14,#16,#18,#20,#24... more then #24 just hibernate =)

cheers

This post has been edited by nicotine: Dec 10 2007, 11:52 AM

eehhh ... the rig setup like this kaa ???
if like this then i ikat a few sets come lorr .. heheheehee

Bro Nico,
My reels are all with braided line

It's better to use 'tanduk' wor......

bro Q yeah, the rig is abit similiar with your, just that we replace the "purple" color mono with a metal line spreader.

aiyar .. need to go out jor .. ciouz

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Added on December 10, 2007, 11:58 amyah yah that's whut they call line spreader in malay, tanduk or jenakau. in chinese "ngau kok"



This post has been edited by nicotine: Dec 10 2007, 12:06 PM


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