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TSjosh5671
post May 16 2023, 04:49 PM, updated 2w ago

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Is globatt 'use-able' brand for car battery?
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post May 16 2023, 04:56 PM

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as long as spec same, why not?
someone once told me. buy battery according to weight. heavier = better
TSjosh5671
post May 16 2023, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ May 16 2023, 04:56 PM)
as long as spec same, why not?
someone once told me. buy battery according to weight. heavier = better
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the price be like 2xx. (not recall the exact amount)
for DIN62, 620CCA. sound like dirty cheap hence i ask forumer...
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post Dec 24 2023, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ May 16 2023, 05:25 PM)
the price be like 2xx. (not recall the exact amount)
for DIN62, 620CCA. sound like dirty cheap hence i ask forumer...
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GLOBATT is performance-rated & reliable, I'm using Globatt EFB M42L on 1st generation MYVI 1.3 year 2010. It's performance-rated because my M42L was checked by foreman using LAUNCH battery tester and the CCA readings on my M42L is more than what claimed on the battery chasis (CCA 450 on battery chasis). The mechanic also surprised with extremely low internal resistance.

GLOBATT exporting to 75 countries, whereas AMARON exporting to 25 countries. GLOBATT is Top 5 at Singapore & Australia, with presence at Singapore since 1992. This was what being told by the sales to me, and I did web research again after installed EFB M42L to validate what they explained.

Basically Globatt Malaysia didn't offer DIN55L, they offer higher specs DIN62L (56219) with higher AH (ampere per power). Higher AH allow higher CCA.

At Malaysia, only GLOBATT & VARTA are using virgin lead on positive/negative terminals, as well as pure lead inside internal plates. Pure lead & silver help to lowest internal resistance of battery plates, thus contributed to higher AH and CCA compare to AMARON. Many are merely looking for CCA & AH when choosing battery, but the fact is most of us didn't aware impoortance of internal resistance.
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post Dec 24 2023, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(AllOfMe @ Dec 24 2023, 10:30 AM)
GLOBATT is performance-rated & reliable, I'm using Globatt EFB M42L on 1st generation MYVI 1.3 year 2010. It's performance-rated because my M42L was checked by foreman using LAUNCH battery tester and the CCA readings on my M42L is more than what claimed on the battery chasis (CCA 450 on battery chasis). The mechanic also surprised with extremely low internal resistance.

GLOBATT exporting to 75 countries, whereas AMARON exporting to 25 countries. GLOBATT is Top 5 at Singapore  & Australia, with presence at Singapore since 1992. This was what being told by the sales to me, and I did web research again after installed EFB M42L to validate what they explained.

Basically Globatt Malaysia didn't offer DIN55L, they offer higher specs DIN62L (56219) with higher AH (ampere per power). Higher AH allow higher CCA.

At Malaysia, only GLOBATT & VARTA are using virgin lead on positive/negative terminals, as well as pure lead inside internal plates. Pure lead & silver help to lowest internal resistance of battery plates, thus contributed to higher AH and CCA compare to AMARON. Many are merely looking for CCA & AH when choosing battery, but the fact is most of us didn't aware impoortance of internal resistance.
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Ah, my bad. Your messages coming late for 3 months+.
I changed it on my car service day on sept to amaron din55 as my friend ordered wrong size so it let go to me.

Definitely will try the globat on next battery.
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post Dec 24 2023, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(AllOfMe @ Dec 24 2023, 10:30 AM)
GLOBATT is performance-rated & reliable, I'm using Globatt EFB M42L on 1st generation MYVI 1.3 year 2010. It's performance-rated because my M42L was checked by foreman using LAUNCH battery tester and the CCA readings on my M42L is more than what claimed on the battery chasis (CCA 450 on battery chasis). The mechanic also surprised with extremely low internal resistance.

GLOBATT exporting to 75 countries, whereas AMARON exporting to 25 countries. GLOBATT is Top 5 at Singapore  & Australia, with presence at Singapore since 1992. This was what being told by the sales to me, and I did web research again after installed EFB M42L to validate what they explained.

Basically Globatt Malaysia didn't offer DIN55L, they offer higher specs DIN62L (56219) with higher AH (ampere per power). Higher AH allow higher CCA.

At Malaysia, only GLOBATT & VARTA are using virgin lead on positive/negative terminals, as well as pure lead inside internal plates. Pure lead & silver help to lowest internal resistance of battery plates, thus contributed to higher AH and CCA compare to AMARON. Many are merely looking for CCA & AH when choosing battery, but the fact is most of us didn't aware impoortance of internal resistance.
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So focus on internal resistance issit ?
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post Dec 25 2023, 12:27 PM

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silver plated kot. silver itself fragile n cost
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 24 2023, 02:36 PM)
So focus on internal resistance issit ?
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plate nipis generally low resistance. worry break/ snap
plate tebal otherwise.

so we need to find balance one, believe in big branded factory
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post Dec 25 2023, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 25 2023, 12:30 PM)
plate nipis generally low resistance. worry break/ snap
plate tebal otherwise.

so we need to find balance one, believe in big branded factory
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I have seen many batteries and the relationship between amps and internal resistance are inversely related. New batteries have high amps & low internal resistance. Scrap batteries I have seen are low amps with high internal resistance.

I haven't come across new battery stocks with high amps & high internal resistance or scrap batteries with low amps low internal resistance either. Perhaps AllOfMe knows something I don't, that's why I am eager awaiting for the reply on the importance of internal resistance.

I haven't had the opportunity to do a factory visit but I will keep this in mind about thin plates snapping. Surely there is an answer cause there are established brands using thin plates but I have never heard of those brands mention anything about plates snapping. Perhaps you are right about balance.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 25 2023, 07:47 PM)
I have seen many batteries and the relationship between amps and internal resistance are inversely related. New batteries have high amps & low internal resistance. Scrap batteries I have seen are low amps with high internal resistance.

I haven't come across new battery stocks with high amps & high internal resistance or scrap batteries with low amps low internal resistance either. Perhaps AllOfMe knows something I don't, that's why I am eager awaiting for the reply on the importance of internal resistance.
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low resiatance make charging fast (stable) and no waste on energy that heating up during chemical reaction.

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Sulfation occurs in lead–acid batteries when they are subjected to insufficient charging during normal operation. It impedes recharging; sulfate deposits ultimately expand, cracking the plates and destroying the battery. Eventually, so much of the battery plate area is unable to supply current that the battery capacity is greatly reduced. In addition, the sulfate portion (of the lead sulfate) is not returned to the electrolyte as sulfuric acid. It is believed that large crystals physically block the electrolyte from entering the pores of the plates. A white coating on the plates may be visible in batteries with clear cases or after dismantling the battery. Batteries that are sulfated show a high internal resistance and can deliver only a small fraction of normal discharge current. Sulfation also affects the charging cycle, resulting in longer charging times, less efficient and incomplete charging, and higher battery temperatures.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93acid_battery
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so above paragraph answered all about amp, resistance, scrap, plate,

refers wiki not bad write up
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post Dec 26 2023, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 25 2023, 08:30 PM)
so above paragraph answered all about amp, resistance, scrap, plate,

refers wiki not bad write up
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Good thing you posted what Wiki has and that got me thinking, I am getting stocks directly from my Principal's HQ, so internal resistance is never a concern. So now if internal resistance an issue, question now is AllOfMe dealing in 2nd hand batteries ? That is what I can think of at the moment.

What is posted in Wiki is related to a battery that has been in use over time and if it's 2nd hand battery, internal resistance would definately be an issue. Not to mention warranty 1 minggu ke, 1 bulan ke or whatever period the reseller is offering, not forgetting attempts made to convince the owner of changing a weak battery by using unscrupulous tactics.

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post Dec 26 2023, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 25 2023, 12:27 PM)
silver plated kot. silver itself fragile n cost
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Not silver-plated. It's SILVER-LEAD-CALCIUM alloy.

BRISK spark plug using silver too... whereas DENSO using iridium, silver outperform iridium on electrical conductance.
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post Dec 26 2023, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 26 2023, 10:19 AM)
Good thing you posted what Wiki has and that got me thinking, I am getting stocks directly from my Principal's HQ, so internal resistance is never a concern. So now if internal resistance an issue, question now is AllOfMe dealing in 2nd hand batteries ? That is what I can think of at the moment.

What is posted in Wiki is related to a battery that has been in use over time and if it's 2nd hand battery, internal resistance would definately be an issue. Not to mention warranty 1 minggu ke, 1 bulan ke or whatever period the reseller is offering, not forgetting attempts made to convince the owner of changing a weak battery by using unscrupulous tactics.
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Nope, i don't have experience using 2nd hand battery.





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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 26 2023, 10:19 AM)
Good thing you posted what Wiki has and that got me thinking, I am getting stocks directly from my Principal's HQ, so internal resistance is never a concern. So now if internal resistance an issue, question now is AllOfMe dealing in 2nd hand batteries ? That is what I can think of at the moment.

What is posted in Wiki is related to a battery that has been in use over time and if it's 2nd hand battery, internal resistance would definately be an issue. Not to mention warranty 1 minggu ke, 1 bulan ke or whatever period the reseller is offering, not forgetting attempts made to convince the owner of changing a weak battery by using unscrupulous tactics.
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Wah... your HQ is distributor of automotive battery?

Good man, then you can get 'fresh' battery only few months after manufacturing date.
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post Dec 26 2023, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(AllOfMe @ Dec 26 2023, 01:40 PM)
Wah... your HQ is distributor of automotive battery?

Good man, then you can get 'fresh' battery only few months after manufacturing date.
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Yes, fortunately for me, I am.
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post Dec 26 2023, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 25 2023, 12:30 PM)
plate nipis generally low resistance. worry break/ snap
plate tebal otherwise.

so we need to find balance one, believe in big branded factory
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I asked the Globatt sales guy and he explained thicker plates with metal grids (macam mesh pagar) is more practical. The hollow (metal grids) increase area in contact with electrolyzes, thus trigger intense chemical reactions, subsequently higher AH/CCA.

Imagine DIN55 having dimension L 242mm x W 175mm x H 90mm.
When the length of DIN55 is limited to 242mm, which ways will increase performance of battery?
[1] increase number of thinner plates within narrow length 242mm?
[2] using reasonable number of plates, but thicken plates within narrow length 242mm?

Not to mention outer surface of embedded plates (in contact with electrolyzes) will be stratified in the long run. Thin plate or thick plate is more susceptible? You have the answer.


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QUOTE(AllOfMe @ Dec 26 2023, 01:20 PM)
Not silver-plated. It's SILVER-LEAD-CALCIUM alloy.

BRISK spark plug using silver too... whereas DENSO using iridium, silver outperform iridium on electrical conductance.
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