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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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desmond2020
post May 15 2023, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 15 2023, 12:29 PM)
I really can't brain the logic for the stop line at main road in a T junction. Whoever drew that line don't understand road marking rules.
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Is a road within housing area

Bodo tu simpan sikit
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post May 15 2023, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 15 2023, 12:40 PM)
Same rules la. Why must have line there.

Straight always have priority, doesn't matter if housing or normal road. You don't want to create too many exceptions to reduce error.

edit: unless it is a crossroad, then it's understandable. This is a T junction.
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it is very common in housing area

but malaysia driver don't care one, hantam ja then ask why got line there? not logic.. gov should change to fit my driving pattern
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post May 15 2023, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 15 2023, 01:01 PM)
Very common? Where else got this t-junction three sides also white line without traffic light?
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along KLCC area already got few place with this kind of marking

for example jln. dang wangi before the intersection with exit of cap square.

IRL no driver respect that, but if accident sure GG

few time got accident there dy, straight road guy all kena. habis NCD

another sample

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post May 15 2023, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 15 2023, 01:08 PM)
Can show google map ar?
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this one at different place
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post May 15 2023, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 15 2023, 01:16 PM)
Got traffic light oh bro.
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dunno, never been there

but this one traffic light no more there




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post May 15 2023, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 15 2023, 01:24 PM)
Aiyo why show if the photo got traffic light. Find other place la since it's so common.

Btw we're talking about t-junction.
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just to tell you that traffic light is not longer there
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post May 15 2023, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 15 2023, 02:01 PM)
Good question. Why?

No road sign, no stripes, no bump, no prior warning, suddenly want the cars come to full stop.

Why?
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housing area speed limit is 30 kmh

that is why no sign to warn you

if got speed bump, there will be no white line

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ May 15 2023, 01:56 PM)
so straight road must completely come to a stop?
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you kopi hitam kau license?

got white line don't stop one?
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post May 15 2023, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 15 2023, 02:24 PM)
I opinion is that this (just a white line on a straight road) is not the best/safest design for road users (compared to traffic light, bumps, strips, road signs etc). Even the place where this BMW accident took place also got a huge banner made by residents there to warn it's residents to be careful on this junction, this shows that this junction had some accidents or near misses before due to this design.

I hope the enforcers will redesign and add some speed bumps or better yet, a traffic light at that junction.
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lol some place got triple speed bump, but malaysia shit driver still hantam through
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post May 15 2023, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 15 2023, 02:28 PM)
Do you think the lady will survive if the BMW road got triple speed bump ?
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most likely can

then there will be people meroyan satu FB about the speed bump
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post May 15 2023, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 15 2023, 03:34 PM)
who first to stop then go first right?
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first arrive, first go

same time arrive, C - A - B
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post May 15 2023, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(McDullDull @ May 15 2023, 03:47 PM)
D... Beemer always goes first.
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beemer need to watchout for inkambing vellfire
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post May 15 2023, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan0 @ May 15 2023, 05:30 PM)
this is funny that, the main direction got white stop line...
anyway, based on the line and direction, the motor suppose to let the car clear then only come out..

but this is most motor behavior, they will just cut out and expect the car/motor/lorry will be able to stop or over take them
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you forget the part that BMW need to fully stop before white line first, then only proceed further?

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post May 16 2023, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ May 16 2023, 07:14 AM)
you don't need proof here to explain the speed and distance of the speeding BMW. Sound, the speed it approaching, how further out to the road the aunty is when she masuk the bmw's road, all can be used as estimation of the impact.

This is really a both side wrong judgement in driving. i wonder why no more update liao about the news.
Not plotek. There's nothing to plotek the bmw guy. He fakaped.

But somehow, it irritates when you see people die die says that regardless of sane or insane sense, moto mati, driver 250% salah semua.

Its almost felt like a seafood intolerant person come eat, dah la intolerant, die die order seafood, die die eat, no inform, die die keep secret, now die liao, and its restaurant fault, from head to toe to everywhere else, and nothing of concern about why, for what, and how it escalated to death.
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i thought you said earlier who arrive at junction early can go first?

can't be like this lah, kejap this kejap that
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post May 16 2023, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 16 2023, 08:27 AM)
Did you even see your own maps? 1, 3, 4 are technically crossroads. The one in cheras in arguably a T junction, but there is a single way one-lane on one side of the road, that road is in front of shop lot. Got to ask your majlis which side is the main road.

Again I ask you, why in the whole stretch of that main road, only that particular junction got stop line? There are more than 5 T junctions on that road.
Where is the proof car is travelling at 100kmph? If you know the speed of the car and is verifiable, let me know.
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because it is main exit of a G&G taman

can faham?
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post May 16 2023, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 16 2023, 08:38 AM)
There are other junctions on this stretch where cars exit from taman, including one from a condo kek.
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you must have missed the multiple yellow strip warning driver to slow down
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post May 16 2023, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 16 2023, 08:46 AM)
Priority to moto also no use because moto die

This is what we called motobodo

If moto just drive a little bit to the left instead of middle , she could have survived.
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clear case of keretabodo also can say motobodo

lol, something wrong with brain wiring. but case of drug mule kena hang in singapore can die die ask for leniency
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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 16 2023, 08:55 AM)
Did my question mention yellow strip?
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yellow strip and solid white line is both road marking telling driver what he should do
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post May 16 2023, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 16 2023, 08:59 AM)
That's not what I asked isn't it.

Are there stop lines on main road at other at T junctions on Jalan Loh Poh Heng? Why only that T junction got stop line?
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you can ask penang municipal council. why ask here?

that is not justification for not obeying road marking
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post May 16 2023, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 16 2023, 09:08 AM)
The original question wasn't for you though.
But since you replied, thought you'd be smarter.

Go checkback my other post that leads to that question.

That T junction should have had a speed bump rather than a stop line.
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again, please point that to municipal council

and still, it isn't the justification for not stopping at white line

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