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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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vapanel
post May 14 2023, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 14 2023, 09:19 AM)
Kek

Suicide person run to a stop car and hit own head on it till died izzit?

Is the car even following rules?
No follow rules mo need say much oredi

You say that
I say the moto is just any motorist on the road

Who say slow must stay left on a single lane road?

But there is law to say must stop before the line at the junction before continuing
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She see the car so she run into middle road to suicide?

As normal human being who don't want to suicide, if I want to live, I will come out from a lane and stay to the very left to avoid being hit by a car

QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2023, 09:20 AM)
why motor can't ride middle of lane?

it is legal for motor to ride at middle of lane

but not stopping at white line is not legal
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Because normally if you don't want to die, when you come out from a lane, you will stay left to avoid being hit by a car
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post May 14 2023, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2023, 09:24 AM)
berapa duit kau dapat dari money game boss?
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You go to TriumphFX thread and you can see me talking bad about them

But do you think the aunty is suicidal or got eyesight problem?


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post May 14 2023, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2023, 09:31 AM)
nope, because i don't have magic crystal ball like you

Since like you are so good with diagnosis of eyesight issue, and mind reading, but anyway, sleep early, in your dream everything you have
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Think about it

If you are the person who ride the bike, will you come out of junction, go to the middle of lane, and ride slow with helmet not fastened properly?

Please be honest with your answer.
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post May 14 2023, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ May 14 2023, 09:34 AM)
Just substitute that motorcycle with your car and tell me if you'll forgive that BMW for knocking your rear just because you had a lapse of mind and came out of the junction without checking for incoming traffic.
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I am sorry but lapse of mind cannot use if already lost life

I am also a person who always blame myself if I have lapse of mind

But can you answer my question :

Think about it

If you are the person who ride the bike, will you come out of junction, go to the middle of lane, and ride slow with helmet not fastened properly?

Please be honest with your answer.

QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2023, 09:36 AM)
ridding at middle of lane is a legal way of riding bike. and whether she have fasten her helmet, you couldn't possibly know

BTW, i don't know where you learn this crime scene CSI sherlock shit, maybe from bollywood. anyway if you don't have evidence to backup your claim, maybe it is time to shutup
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Legal or not, can you answer my question properly instead of diverting it?

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post May 14 2023, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2023, 09:39 AM)
if it is legal, why i can't ride at the middle?  doh.gif
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Do you even bother to answer my question instead?
Legality aside, think about it

If you are the person who ride the bike, will you come out of junction, go to the middle of lane, and ride slow with helmet not fastened properly?

Please be honest with your answer.
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post May 14 2023, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ May 14 2023, 09:41 AM)
I also can put on my Sherlock cap & deduce that you came from a low performing school because apparently the teachers didn't teach you not to answer a question with another question.
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I already answer you that I might blame myself for lapse of mind instead of blaming the BMW driver

And then I follow up with this question. Can you answer it?

Think about it

If you are the person who ride the bike, will you come out of junction, go to the middle of lane, and ride slow with helmet not fastened properly?

Please be honest with your answer.

QUOTE(Jasonist @ May 14 2023, 09:42 AM)
is PENANG mah.. wat u expect?
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lol

QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2023, 09:42 AM)
let me tell you again, if it is legal, then i will definitely do it

your brain can process this?
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Cannot process this la bro. Why you want to do like that? . Sounds like you are suicidal too.

Please ride defensively and fastened your helmet

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post May 14 2023, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2023, 09:48 AM)
so if riding at middle of lane is suicidal, then drinking todi is suicidal too?
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Yes of course

That's why I don't drink alcohol.

Alcohol are for suicidal people.

If you drink alcohol and ride into middle lane as bike slowly, please find Befrienders


QUOTE(mcchin @ May 14 2023, 09:51 AM)
Mai lagi dengan conjectures lagi

All should bes and unseen is crap talk

What is seen is on the CCTV

Impact area is 5- 10 meters from the junction
So it's not just entering the junction crap

15meters movement means at the start when the moto at junction
The car is way back at least 70meters back if at 100kmph

Normal speed car at 70m back no problem for any car to join in traffic  in front of it

The car speed is fast that is also certain

These two are facts as seen on CCTV and street view

Whether the moto stop or not, cannot say

But for the car to be at that speed after the junction means it enter at least the same speed as the point of impact

Even the driver comment on slowing down means before the junction is even higher speed?
But that is just here say only
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I mean as a biker, if you are slow, would you stay in the middle of lane and better ride on the left for safety purpose?

QUOTE(talexeh @ May 14 2023, 09:52 AM)
Hahaha... so you're going to tell that white BMW that "Welp, my fault that you knocked into my rear. Here's my phone#, call me & let me know how much I need to compensate for your car repair?" Kek, isn't it too early to get drunk?

Anyway, as someone who has both motorcycle & car, there's something called lost of balance when you're on 2-wheeled vehicles. Like what desmond2020 said, it's not illegal & it appeared that you couldn't accept that answer either so don't see we're going anywhere with that question of yours. About that helmet, you have no idea if it's fastened & powered by my Sherlock Shit cap, I've deduced that you're not someone who rides motorcycle & even if you do, you don't ride it often.

Like others say, practise defensive driving. You treat all vehicles the same, whether they're motorcycle or car.
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Even though I blame myself for lapse of mind, as a law abiding person, will still claim from BMW.

You on the other hand, refused to answer my question properly and diverting it to legality.

Defensive driving as motorbike if I riding slow, I will go to the left. I ride bike when I am in university. But after work, I no longer ride bike because I know it's dangerous.

Riding car instead of riding bike is defensive driving too. Meaning I defend my life by riding car instead bike.

You on the hand does not know what is defensive driving because you still ride bike even though you got car.

I think the most problematic one is you can't even answer my question honestly

Think about it

If you are the person who ride the bike, will you come out of junction, go to the middle of lane, and ride slow with helmet not fastened properly?

Please be honest with your answer.

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post May 14 2023, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ May 14 2023, 10:21 AM)
I don't know how many times you need to be told the same thing but yes, why not? But I guess it doesn't make any difference, you're gonna repeat the same question again like how you spammed your conspiracy posts earlier today.
HAHAHAHAHAHA... so now we have it, you'll still blame the BMW for knocking into you. Glad that we're of the same opinion then. Congratulations, I'm proud that you've finally achieved enlightenment. It's always a lot easier to make car owners understand the scenario better when you ask them to substitute the motorcycle / bicycle victim with their car.
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Well nobody answer me yet

So now you think she should be riding more defensively?


QUOTE(kopiride @ May 14 2023, 10:28 AM)
Why u keep asking people about riding middle?
First I believe u are not motorbike rider. They are suppose to keep left but not until the curb. There are risk riding close to curb. Near curb is ok.
Secondly, that road is quite small. It's not like what u imagine a big road. And she's not riding in the middle.
I am from Penang and have already went by to test out.
Thirdly, there is no way the car could have not seen her. She's way out from the junction. Cars can even see it 100m away.
No point to try pinning the blame on her.
Yes she could have not go out until no cars. See this word no cars. Or she can turn when the car is far away.
Of course first option is best. But generally even for car drivers, we turn out when we know car is away some distance. We don't wait until whole road no cars.
My guess is she saw the car far away, but misjudge how fast the car is going.
And driver wasn't even paying attention on the road that's for sure. Because there is no way to missed that. Look at the breaking distance of the car. A bmw breaking is one of the best. U go try drive at 60. An abrupt break u will be able to stop quite immediately. I am thinking driver is going 80-90+.
She could have avoided that but nobody I see on the road is going to wait until whole stretch no car only turn.
That guy sure is going in for reckless driving causing death. No amount of reasoning can save him.
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So I guess we both right that accident can be avoided if both are riding more defensively

She still can ride a little bit more to the left but if you see the video or the picture, it's already almost middle.

QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ May 14 2023, 10:32 AM)
Small road can't ride at the side la. If main road then motor should ride at the side. Small road ride at the side will fall down the long kang
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Can. A little bit more.

I check the video and picture and she almost riding in the middle.
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post May 14 2023, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 14 2023, 10:53 AM)
That's funny. If the deceased wanted to commit suicide, surely the deceased would have rode straight into the BMW. You are like the defendant's counsel in the Teoh Beng Hock case.
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We never know what suicidal person will do
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post May 14 2023, 11:58 AM

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I am motorbike rider also

That's why I know she ride in the middle of lane

She probably want to suicide

QUOTE(kopiride @ May 14 2023, 11:44 AM)
U don't check the video la. U ain't motorbike rider talk big here. U don't even know the road there but talk big like u know all.
And no, she's riding ok like most safe rider. No car or motor will wait until ZERO vehicle to turn. Is akin like saying everyone must eat boneless chicken/fish else can have risk of swallow bone. Or everyone must not talk while eat else will have risk of choking to death.
Or u must wait until stock goes to the most bottom before buying else will lose money. (Like u know it's bottomed)

The driver drove recklessly and high speed not looking at the road for sure. That is the cause of accident death. End of story  If he did not hit her, he have high chance of killing other people along that road. She's just unlucky facing him that day.
Tell your buddy he's going to jail.

Btw, u should stop looking at PC or phone because coming from your reasoning, if u didn't see screen, u have zero chance of damaging your eyes. Or chance of screen explode at your face. You could act more defensively by asking others to see screen on your behalf reading for u.
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post May 14 2023, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ May 14 2023, 11:43 AM)
biasa la bila B_NA langgar B_NA where got motobo keretabodo mesti plotek till 50 page
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Agreed

QUOTE(billy3336 @ May 14 2023, 11:49 AM)
don't waste time on him

after he claims poco f5 won't have android 14, we all know he's a troll

that guy only live in this forum to agitate people
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Please don't talk about the rubbish poco f5
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QUOTE(billy3336 @ May 14 2023, 12:07 PM)
got rule say moto must stick to the left of the  one way road? can show us the rule book by jpj?

u only know how to elak real argument,when kena counter u not able to answer back, act like a trolls
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No wor

But as part of defensive driving, can you think about below and answer me.

If you are the person who ride the bike, will you come out of junction, go to the middle of lane, and ride slow with helmet not fastened properly?

Please be honest with your answer.
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QUOTE(kopiride @ May 14 2023, 01:13 PM)
Ok. Now I agree why ppl say u are troll.
When u get bang one day, please come tell us that u should have ride more defensively.
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If ride defensively, the chance is lower lor

QUOTE(billy3336 @ May 14 2023, 01:15 PM)
there u go, no (sendiri pukul mulut sendiri)

then the moto is not wrong

she abide the law, the bmw if stop at white line,he wont be so fast and hit her

if everyone follow the law, accident wont happen, defensive is not needed

if u travel on road, suddenly some mf hit u from opposite lane, do u blame urself not being defensive? or the stupid driver that hit u?
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No mar.

Abide law also can accident one.

That's why I ask you to think about it

If you are the person who ride the bike, will you come out of junction, go to the middle of lane, and ride slow with helmet not fastened properly?

Please be honest with your answer.

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QUOTE(billy3336 @ May 14 2023, 01:45 PM)
yes,i can go in the middle,i didn't do anything wrong, what difference it makes? u think i go left bit the bmw cant hit me?

for helmet part, if i fastened it probably,will the bmw not hit me?

so bmw is not wrong at all la?

tell me a case where everyone abide the law still crash, bmw wrong in every single way
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If you look at the video , if she just ride a little bit to the left, the accident could have been avoided
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QUOTE(billy3336 @ May 14 2023, 01:51 PM)
i dont think so , the road is not wide, she gone left also will clip her nevertheless

why swift the blame? hit from behind is wrong, speeding in taman area is wrong
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Clip her better than direct hit bro

No blaming here

I just want to spread defensive driving reminder to avoid lost of life
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QUOTE(billy3336 @ May 14 2023, 01:56 PM)
spread defensive driving? didn't u just say she was suicidal?
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Yes she could be suicidal if she drive middle and slowly just to be hit by car

Eyesight could be another issue.

Else she could have use defensive driving
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2023, 02:07 PM)
Dey, is it illegal to ride at middle of the lane? It is legal

So it is legal to speed and not stopping at while lane? No, it is Reckless sohai driving

So, bmw driver go to jail

Hope he don't need to wear dryper when come out
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Sure but the BMW driver still alive while the aunty is not

Doesn't sound fair innit?

So my defensive driving is better

She might still alive after being clipped and the BMW driver still go to jail or at least received some punishment
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QUOTE(rauma @ May 14 2023, 02:33 PM)
AhBeng TriumpFX money game soyboy followers banyak protek.
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come join me to attack TriumphFX in
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 14 2023, 02:36 PM)
Their money is on the line lol.
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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ May 14 2023, 04:21 PM)
As someone who drives in Penang for more than 5 years, motorcyclists are coming out from junctions without stopping or without even looking 95% of the time. I am always angry about them and curse them to be rolled under big lorries.
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You got your wish now

She is dead
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QUOTE(talexeh @ May 14 2023, 06:11 PM)
Kek, so you're one of those gangs who blamed the rape victim for having a pussy instead of the perpetrator.
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Rape is not accident

Also, my reply obviously to that person who wish death to motorbikes who come out from junction without caring for their own safety. I believe you have the same wish too like that forumer. you guys are very bad

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