huh seems like ERA didnt do very well if they needed APS

already debunked, the one thats shot down is BETAB-500 bomb. look at comparison of the alleged "kinzhal" vs actual

bullshit, so youre telling me Klitschko is 6m tall to stand next to a 7m long Kinzhal?

its not even lined the same nor the same size

this is how big a Kinzhal is FYI

adoiii another cannot see the difference.. even if its the tip, the shape is already different? thickest point the diameter of kinzhal is 1.2m. so even if its the top part the diameter is still wider than what an average human is

also patriot destroys missile via brute kinetic force, what do you think happens when a patriot travelling at mach 4 hits an incoming kinzhal at mach10? protip, everything will be in pieces

so youre telling me physics taught you when a mach 4 collides with mach 10 and somehow the projectile will retain its shape?

yes thats currently the kinzhal's weakness, intercept it during early-mid launch but the issue is a patriot isnt a long range interceptor

thats why the math doesnt compute. kinzhal boosts "up to" mach 10 only when close to the target. at its top speed of 205km/s (assuming it went into the hypersonic mode) a patriot battery with pac2 missile (160km range) has only seconds to live adjust its trajectory to intercept the kinzhal. also kinzhal is an endo atmospheric type missile which are more unpredictable compared to usual ballistic missile paths

not saying impossible but assuming average 30% interception chance, and UA firing at least 4-6 missiles per kinzhal to increase chances and it can hit. but the main issue is can UA with their limited equip detect kinzhal fast enough for patriot to react? US has multiple early warning systems that does that, UA dont

thats why claims of "up to" but the thing is its still a darn beech to intercept given what UA has even if it goes beyond mach4. US has high success with patriot as they have a multitude of other systems to boost to patriot's accuracy in tracking

not atomise, but be in so many pieces its literally unidentifiable

the kinzhal from 2022 is reported to crash with the MIG-31K, so i dont think its launched even nor is it in hypersonic speeds

just read my damn posts up there

yes these are claims, but US CSIS also knew it can reach up to mach 10, thats not something where taht capability can be dismissed entirely

but prob is the pac 3 is too short range vs the longer range pac2 to quickly intercept the incoming? with longer range pac2 they can fire more in advance, intercepting it further before it went into that mode of impossible to intercept. anywho, the key ingredient always has been whether or not UA has enough early detection radar to help the patriot system. if they do then yes they have a chance, but so far i dont see it given how they couldnt intercept previous kinzhals

correct yes, but at same time the danger part is when it can go hypersonic + new pathfinding. think of it like this, if say in my radar i see you approaching north while driving at 100km/hr, and i send out vehicles to intercept you based on your current pathing + speed. suddenly you floor the pedal and changed direction slightly + reaching 300km/h, so what ive informed to the interceptors are now moot and i have to adjust on the fly on your new pathing. problem is do i still have time to adjust? thats why hypersonics are dangerous, cause it really shorten the hell out of the reaction time

it is possible to intercept at almost point blank if during hypersonic phase the patriot fired in time during its final pathing mode but thats too damn close for comfort + much luck involved

which i argued back that the kinzhal due to sheer kinetic energy wouldve shattered in pieces if it was indeed hit by patriot?