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This post has been edited by Nightstalker1993: May 10 2023, 08:55 AM

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Come in the morning better, since will be a Reunion + Raya open house event for bikers the queue will long

This post has been edited by ajaibman: May 10 2023, 03:54 PM

fuh Triumph all top cc bikes

Enjoy test riding!

Those big tigers need broken gravel road to shine

See you there

Update guys, there's an accident during one of the test ride today, triumph tiger 900 it seems. Tomorrow's test ride change location.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/7923165391388...H&s=yWDuG2&fs=e



This post has been edited by Nightstalker1993: May 13 2023, 08:40 PM

"Ah shit a Tiger 900 is gone" is that what he said?

This bike kena accident ah?



This post has been edited by alexei: May 13 2023, 09:11 PM

No idea as I wasn't there, but it sure looks and sounds like it.

Yes. That AMD 990. A tiger 900 rally pro

Wet road, corner, downhill.
And maybe with someone unfamiliar on the bike.

All recipe for disaster

Test riding bikes for newbies in the wet is a really bad idea tbh.

You were there today? Looks quite serious the crash. I wonder if the rider have to bear the cost. On normal showroom test rides usually sign a waiver that says something in the likes of if there's an accident, the rider is to bear the cost of repair and to not get insurance involved.

Also saw the uncensored video. I feel like getting new riding boots now....

Official statement Rider blackouts suddenly, therefore overshooting the corner.

if you read the indemnity, it's just waiving them liability.
no way an indemnity of tester needing to bear the cost of repair and not getting insurance involve will fly. if that ever exist, one should just walk away.

and yes. i've seen a ton of gory motorcycling shit and yet i still return to it
and people STILL ask me why i gear up.

Or more likely some form of target fixation

When I went for KTM Test ride, the form basically says what I just said. The bikes have insurance sure, but if you crash it, the company will ask you to pay for it instead of claiming from the insurance. At least that's what you had to sign off before test riding.

once broken, consider sold..

Didn't go. I'm up north in kedah. Waiting for new distro in Juru Auto City to do test ride event.


Better spend a bit for good high cut boots.
Leather boots like forma adventure, Falco mixto, Alpinestars Corozal adventure, TCX drifter can last a long time if taken care.

These tall adventure bikes really need counter leaning to corner them.
If the rider try to lean with the bike they'll find that the bike refuses to go down and try to straighten back up.

It's designed to correct itself, need to be forced to take a corner.

last week during the auto show at MAEPS serdang, they were having a test ride at one of the carparks full of gravels and CFMOTO had like 8 bikes or more lining up just for ppl to test drive. no need sign anything, no need show license...just hope on any bike you like and go

Thanks for the info.

One of the boots came off? I once went test ride with full gear.

I thought from the photos, it looked more like lowside almost masuk longkang.

Just my guess: I think the forms are for on the road test rides. Closed course test rides maybe less stringent.

A brand to slash out for me i guess.

BMW Suzuki never had that in their indemnity forms. Not sure if that's changed now.

Please share the uncensored video
Treat this as a warning to those not wearing proper riding shoes when riding.

Accident looks like it overshot the corner....maybe lowside the front. But the injury is to his left foot on a right-hander....so maybe he just rode it into the side of genting. Injuries look pretty severe though. Video also showed he was bleeding from his mouth....I'm really surprised passerby's took his helmet off before the arrival of EMS. They shouldn't really.

That's right. Big ADVs with 21" fronts don't ride like regular nakeds or sports bikes. They need a bit more counter steering to lean in. After which, they can go either way depending on the geometry or tires. Some will need constant countersteering to maintain the lean, some might fall in abruptly. Some might be very neutral.

If a rider is not used to big bikes, they may go well over speed into the corner as those bikes has so much torque to get well over 100kph B4 one realises it. Doing a test ride at genting is never a good idea....especially in the wet.

He rode it into the sidewall.

Damn.....just as I thought....

lol... with his impact no shoe can help...

damn that looks brutal

You'd be very surprised at how tough top end boots are.

Considering his impact and injuries, proper boots would have made it a minor bruise or even zero injury.

wow seems serious

wanted to go but then ended up back Ipoh, first time hearing test ride in Genting, curvy roads and all huhu

I dunno the rider, I hope he's ok. Maybe he thought it's a bad idea, but went ahead with it anyway.

It's a Tiger 900 Rally Pro? I can't imagine how a front 21 feels like. 24.4 rake and 145.8 trail, means it's easy to turn (small rake), but wants to straighten up (long trail). Fighting to steer is something I yet to experience.

From the photo, left boot was removed, and the foot is covered in red. Not sure it's from other parts such as shin or thigh, hopefully nothing internal.

Things like this will make future test rides more 'controlled' or 'restricted', hopefully in a better way.

Sorry for the rider, but this incident may result in restricted test ride by Triumph in the future.

Used to enjoy Triumph PJ test ride. Used to own a ST765 and they gave me the whole stable of bikes to enjoy for an hour or so whenever im down there for service/ loitering around.

[quote May 14 2023, 05:11 PM]
Please share the uncensored video
Treat this as a warning to those not wearing proper riding shoes when riding.

[/quote]

when skolah memandu tht time, instructor oredi shown tons of xcdent photos.. where got efek wan.. lol...

jz like those fotos on kotak rokok.. where got efek wan lol...

not the first time, bmw motorad oso done b4,
dono who started first ....

Problem is, too many people take a bike they're not used to and start whacking it without knowing the characteristics. It is a recipe for disaster and also, those guides (if they have) tend to lead but at a speed that is way too fast for newbies to follow the lead bike, and not everyone has track experience either. I know they want to show off the capabilities of the bikes but the riders don't really know the bikes yet and can very easily get into trouble. Whatever it is, public roads can only show a measure of the bike's capability. Not full-on experience and riders should understand this limitation of the environment.

This post has been edited by lowpro: May 15 2023, 11:36 AM

lmaooooo that track was full of gravel , i was damn scared riding even just the electric bicycle

This case looks like the shoe came off first during the crash.
Not worn properly?

Yes how true.
And the "it will never happen to me" mindset is another issue with some bikers.

Just yesterday a rider was making fun of me when he saw me wearing safety gears. But it's ok. I don't care.

Where's the video?

no idea. or lesser quality gear even if worn properly, it'll just come of
eg: just Velcro straps, and if said Velcro straps are already worn, they will just come off upon any abrasion or impact.

not the first, won't be the last.

Actually wife & I signed the forms to test ride, the CFmoto, Modenas/Kawasaki & KTM bikes.

True.
Safety gears, if can afford .... Get the branded ones.
If not get the best you can afford.

Wonder if there is any updates on this rider. Hope he's ok.
Speedy recovery to him.

Closed circuit don't need license ma. If ride in the road they will photocopy your license lol.

My only experience is with ktm and triumph, pretty sure both had that in theirs. Triumph can't really remember 100% but KTM confirm ada because I asked the guy samore what if its not my fault takkan want me bayar also lol.



Holy shit that's horrible

Now change distributor already ma, triumph no longer fast Bikes. Now triumph under Goh brothers umbrella together with RE, Aprilia etc, that's why this test ride event are all brands under Goh brothers/didi resources.

Luckily I didn't go. Thought of going to test ride bikes but if the test ride track like that then I don't want to bother

Yeah definitely thinking of upgrading my boots now. Falco boots anybody got try before?

stiff/semi stiff motocross boots have really good protection.
some good semi stiff adventure boots have toe support, heel support, ankle support at both side.
some even have really stiff midsole that you can't even bend, to aid riding while standing up.

and most are designed to go over a shin guard so you could wear shin guard underneath the boot.
looks like robocop special ops. cool as hell


haiya.
gravel la best.
can slide slide and geli geli in the corner.

i tried falco mixto before. can't remember mixto 3 or mixto 4.

IIRC alpinestars corozal adventure is more comfortable and looks nicer. similar price so i skipped mixto.
falco mixto, forma adventure, sidi adventure 2, alpinestars corozal/belize is prolly some of the most popular adventure boots on the market.

and in terms of pricing & features, the sidi adventure 2 have a really good ratio. but i didn't like the microfibre construction and the suede leather. so i skipped.

Let them stare lah...
1 man meat, another's poison...

Looks not local..

all racing boots also, for good reasons.

the accident actually happened during dry weather and on the uphill section. only during emergency services came that it started to rain.

my friend who was there even mentioned that it was the first time he got so sweaty while working at Genting.

and the crash actually was caught on camera tho although not clearly.

a rider in front of the one that crashed was recording for a vlog during the test ride and the crash can be seen on the side mirrors.



It was around the 9:00 minute mark

This post has been edited by muazyusof: May 16 2023, 02:50 PM

not really clear, but ouch god dang...

From right


Suddenly swing to left:






This post has been edited by alexei: May 16 2023, 03:12 PM

my uncle version take is that after over taking car (we normally pulas the trottle a bit) and then mahu masuk balik lane but the Tiger just couldn't slow down in time to execute the corner.

Maybe too high gear, maybe over estimated engine braking resistance, trottle too sensitve .. who knows lah.

I pun kena before (nearly crash, somemore cornering at taman) after sit kapchai then switch to efjek... wrong feeling message.

Damn that's a painful crash. My guess would be didn't lean in enough to make the turn, target fixated at the wall, then panicked and went to the wall? He looks pretty upright for the turn, vs the lead bike kona baring.

What if the bike malfunctioned?

yea i would agree with your hypothesis

that area, at the speed they going, no need kona baring pun.

however, if your lines aren't ideal (like smack in middle so only minor turns needed to keep your trajectory straight as if no corners) then you'd need some turning effort to navigate the downhill and cambered left right series of switch backs, and for bikes, means your ass is shifting around the seat (or you need to rely more lean on the bike)

not exactly something a huge majority of riders are into, mind you.

these adventure bikes can't be turned as you would on a sportbike.
they won't turn if the driver tries to lean together with the bike. well not as fast.

i find that touring bikes with 19" front still can be cornered with driver lean.
those with 21" would just refuse and try to stand up straight.


thanks for the video.
looks like dry weather then. prolly too fast on an unfamiliar bike

that was my thought as well. Usually riding genting or any twisties, i try to focus on 2 or 3 corners ahead. But that needs familiarity with both the road and bike. Easy to get distracted by the new bike.

Actually looking at the speed the harley was running, they werent actually going all that fast. I think he just got target fixated and forgotten to turn. Tiger looked pretty stable (maybe too stable) until it hit.

depends on the bike and geometry.

I was pleasantly surprised when I rode the 790 adventure. Also with a 21" front. turn in is very good. Maybe the low CoG helped a lot.

But yes, by counter leaning you can get the bike to lean much easier and quicker.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: May 17 2023, 11:46 AM

It's the trail:
790 ADV: 107mm
Tiger 900 Rally Pro: 146mm

my tiger 800 xcx have an even shorter trail at 93.5mm

but still exhibit the same trait, corner much easier with counter lean

The short trail is easier to turn.

Any updates on that rider?
How is he doing now?

where can i shop for a pair of good riding boots?

Can refer to Bike Gear Talk thread.

Yup. The higher the gyroscopic effect, the more effort it takes to lean it and bring it back upright.