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technosakai
post May 8 2023, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(helven @ May 7 2023, 10:06 PM)
Evening everyone.

Given context:
Ford Fiesta, 1150kg, tyre size 195/55R15

By reading the forum, I found people commenting about this tyre good, that tyre not good, this good on wet.
I would like to know, how do you guys judge the tyre performance? in what context and measuring method makes you conclude that this is good and that is bad?

Dry/Wet Grip:
Like do you test it personally in rain? Purposely run into the water in highway? jam break? sweep corner?

Noise:
Do you feel by your ears only or you have device to record the dB?
There are many factors can affect the noise, how do you judge if it is good? solely base on feel?

Comfort:
This is very subjective, absolutely hard to gather data such as vibration generated on this road

Treadwear:
This is easy, can count by mileage

I am currently using Toyo CR1, I can't tell if it is good and can't justify the money spent. I have also use XM2 previously, I feel both are same with RM100 price difference per tyre (absolutely noob that I don't have the capability to differentiate both), I feel XM2 seems to last longer than CR1.
The only reason if ppl ask me why I se CR1, i can only tell it is more budget friendly and it is not unknown brand.
Thus would like to learn how should I judge a tyre.
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if your car got abs, then wanna test out performance in wet braking, just find an empty road, jam brake when safe, see how far it takes to stop. Next time when you change another tyre (different brand) try again and see?
as for wet grip, sometimes you can feel it when driving through corners, on painted lines.. you'll feel the tyres not reacting to your steering input.. especially when you passed by those construction areas with the temporary yellow lines for temporary change in the lanes.. those are slick af.. I kena before, steer right, but car kept straight.. sketchy

as for noise, just use your ears lo.. surely you'll drive the same road everyday in and out when go to work or coming home.. try to observe and see how loud / noisy is it when you're using 2 different set of tyres?
of course the road surface plays a role, rough or newly paved, but then its your everyday road.. surely you'll notice the difference

comfort - tough to judge. suspension also comes into play, unless you really go bump into potholes and go through speedbumps at high speed.. but why wanna wreck your car just to test comfort right? so pass...

technosakai
post May 8 2023, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ May 8 2023, 10:15 AM)
90' junction yes. we use same way
quite subjective becos worn tyre sure lose to new one.
wet grip feel.. not accurate & not safe to test.
noise is very easy. listen to music/ radio@ minimum volume. need to increase= noisy tyre
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yeah well not telling him to go attack corners at maximum speed to test the grip ma.
im just saying can use those paints to judge when he come across those lines..
sometimes no need to speed also can feel the tyres are like floating when drive on those painted lines. no reaction.. at least that was my experience la..
as for the music.. my player is always fixed at the same volume whenever I drive alone.. so i use the same stretch of road to judge.
technosakai
post May 8 2023, 12:02 PM

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damn.. you guys are always triggering your cars' ESC and ABS when driving?
so easy to trigger one meh? all kaki balap?

This post has been edited by technosakai: May 8 2023, 12:02 PM
technosakai
post May 9 2023, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(helven @ May 9 2023, 03:20 PM)
so like do I rev up to 140kmh, then brake and take corner at 45kmh?
does triggering abs do any damage to my car or just consuming brake pad and tyre?
yup yup im not a laju guy, non of my friend does, just a normal daily driver. Thus I have no experience with what is safe to do and what is risky, not able to tell the tyre performance. I do watch some driving video, and there is tire squeal noise when they take sharp corner, is it safe to perform?
Would you mind to recommend a tyre model to try? like an noticeable upgrade from my CR1? I've heard of PS3 but not sure this tyre belongs to which category
never once in my life I see ESC or ABS light up after 10 years of driving car with both features.
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No damage done to the car.. Its just there to prevent your brakes from locking up the wheels, preventing your car from skidding when brake is pressed to the max.
yes, consume your brake pads and tyres.. Hard acceleration and braking consume your tyres..
Squeal noise when taking corners means grip is close to max limit if my understanding is correct. Kinda like at the tyres' peak performance.. any faster than that speed the tyres would lose grip
ya lo.. you drive 10 years also never see ESC and ABS light up before and yet got ppl here can use tyres until those 2 were triggered. Its either they are very hard on the pedals or the tyres were shit? idk..
technosakai
post May 9 2023, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 9 2023, 05:19 PM)
I believe ABS works in background and dont light up even when it's working. If ABS light is on, that means your wallet going to bleed again since speed sensor sudah rosak.

Only ESC light will turn on when it's triggered and working.
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ah yes, correction on my statement.. ABS light won't light up unless system is faulty. But my point is i wonder how some ppl here drive, cuz can activate ESC and ABS. ABS activated in heavy jam some more..


 

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