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What do you think the suscessfull rate and how much it will affect the value of the property in this area?

How much you willing to pay extra for a freehold title when you purchasing your property?


Update 08/05/2023:-

CONGRATULATION !!!

It's CONFIRMED and APPROVED by Land Office already!



Dear owners, you may start your application and you may check your unit eligibility using link below.

https://www.ptgwp.gov.my/etanah-awam/AwamSe...milikForm.xhtml

Detail of the application and charges calculation
 LF_FH_Flow.pdf ( 664.8k ) Number of downloads: 927


This post has been edited by onnying88: May 11 2023, 12:03 AM

0.5% success rate
easily RM20K - RM50K gua
Do you have past records on this thingy in msia b4?

why only sri petaling?

Today just passing by the banner

Terrible place to live and work. Too many cars and zero parking. Jam on the internal roads.

If do this is good. But have have clause. Kenot sell off for 20 years. Pls end land ownership slavery.

Because the land originally is Freehold, gov change it to leasehold when developer apply for development N years ago.

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/8680...atus-conversion

This post has been edited by onnying88: May 5 2023, 12:27 PM

May I know how do I check if my house is one of them?

Got.. shang villa kelana jaya.

https://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-gu...-freehold-38296

sri petaling = seputeh = bumi teresa kwok

Petaling Garden Co

This post has been edited by jojolicia: May 5 2023, 04:43 PM

Macai PN got new issue can viral in tiktok

Ong and prosperous place sure jam one.
Where is more liveable?

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...rs-says-lawyer/

Similar situation

BN gomen unlawfully converted free hold to lease hold in non area. It is about time to right the wrong.

Abuse of power....

Probably because of opposition stronghold area....

Tag here for any further updates

If and only if there's an if this "lh2fh" project succeeds, then can expect more similar project in the future.

MP takes the lead in her constituency. Others may follow.

Lawyers already do the marketing
Charge is like RM4K-RM5K per case. If go via bulk, can nego.
No need to pay until new title confirmed.

Yes

If a leasehold land is surrounded by large freehold lands, the owner can opt to apply for conversion, subject to approval

Never heard of this before??

Applicable for WPKL only or others state @ places also can?

🤔🧐

really ? got precedent case ?

Many owners in Taman Bukit Maluri kepong already managed to get court order to convert their title from lh to fh.
Similar case, long long time ago was freehold, somehow got changed to leasehold by the gomen

Is the Tmn bkt maluri lh2fh case involving the respective mp too?

sure value will increase

0.5% success rate to convert from LH to FH? why is that?

very informative briefing by YB and land office KL officials.

Thanks god i able to convert to freehold with very minimum cost.

i cant brain when one uncle complained that why a mistake by gomen years ago and the owners now need to pay for the fee.

as explain earlier, hard to trace back what happened when DO granted like 40-50 years ago.

if dont want to pay the premium, one can just file to the court and wait for the court judgement, which is time consuming and costly.

cant win all, be grateful.

wahhh syoknya

can build many mix dev with the land

Anyone attended the clarification for strata title ie pinnacle? What are the steps involved?

this round KL land office only come out solution with landed properties.

they will have another section with strata title properties stakeholder i.e MC at later stage. but during the end of section, there are officials stay back to answer the queries from the floor. if u are staying nearby, pls find time to attend another section on 21st.

So which Jalan to which jalan or building can convert to freehold?
Lot number cannot tell where.

sri indah cant.
Many parts can. Like Zone F, Zone M, Zone L, Zone J ...

8th Stellar under construction there consider Sri Petaling plot?

during yesterday meeting, mainly is to guide people how to apply and also answer the queries. they do not go into details on which part or which condo is within the approved list as they already give a link for property owners to check.

this round KL land office is only process those landed property with individual titles. those strata title may have other legal issue which they need to discuss with the MC of the building in future. there are people from land office staying back to answer queries from the floor, which u can ask them for the next briefing on 21st.

This post has been edited by forever1979: May 10 2023, 01:14 PM

Possible to share the link? Wanna help my uncle check.
Elderly not IT savy

Attached thumbnail(s)

Thank you

https://www.ptgwp.gov.my/etanah-awam/AwamSe...milikForm.xhtml

Check your unit here

Estimated cost around RM2800-3300 for landed properties.

price is okay..

was thinking like over 10k

Might over that if you have big land size. But still it’s very reasonable price already.

No easy to get offer to change LH to FH especially in Malaysia

yes.

if I remember correctly...

around PJ or so...

the asking $$$ is over 100k like that... big backlash from the resident there...

PJ case should be just extend leasehold period, not change LH to FH is it. Many banglo in PJ lease period left 20-30years now.


Now Sri petaling case is land office open up for owner to apply the conversion directly, no need court order or others special approval letter as long your unit is under their list.

So all owner advise to apply it ASAP ya before any changes happen in future.

Owners, you may check your eligibility using link below

https://www.ptgwp.gov.my/etanah-awam/AwamSe...milikForm.xhtml

It will show this if your unit is eligible
(TIPS : IC number can leave it empty as some people report there is error if you key in IC no.)

Anybody got the map of the diff zones in sri petaling?

You mean this?

Ya...but with more details like where does the zone borders end. From this pic, hard to tell

That one need go land office to check already.

By the way all the detail you needed to check eligibility can be found in your Quit Rent Bill / Bil Cukai Tanah.

Mukim / Jenis HakMilik / No HakMilik / No.Lot / PT

Before change of government again.
Greedy people might over turn it again

This one is more clear with the landmark.
Kesian look like Endah Parade that area is not inside the approved zone.



This post has been edited by ck2chan: May 11 2023, 03:11 AM

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This post has been edited by forever1979: May 11 2023, 07:56 AM

hi, do you or anyone know which are the 7 piece of land ? which zone are excluded from the list ?

Only these zone eligible at the moment. Others all excluded lo



Easiest and fastest way is get your lot detail from your Cukai pintu / Quit Rent, and check from the website link provided.

This post has been edited by onnying88: May 11 2023, 09:26 AM

Manage to get 2 forms ready. The other forms Borang Pertanyaan and Surat Akuan, anyone manage to download it?

https://www.ptgwp.gov.my/portal/documents/2...bd-cf4719aa99d5

https://www.ptgwp.gov.my/portal/documents/2...50-9c59dfc79f06

Update:

Thanks to @Yluxion, this is the correct link not the above
https://www.ptgwp.gov.my/portal/documents/2...a7-b5cd1e58e93d

This post has been edited by 1ullaby: May 11 2023, 09:04 PM

Whoa, this is probably a very old map. It was changed from Jalan Panjang to Jalan Hujan Emas many many years ago

Seems like quite sad, my parents place is at Zone P, bordering OUG. Seems like our area is not in the said Lot/Parcel

https://www.ptgwp.gov.my/portal/web/guest/muat-turun-borang

From the above link, download #3 Permohonan Serah balik Keseluruhan dan Berimilik Semula, Seksyen 197 dan Seksyen 76 KTN - Individu

This should be the correct one and have all the required forms. (borang-borang & surat)

Hi bro thanks!

Updated the links in my post accordingly.

Any idea where to upload it though?

I created a PPTGWKL account, searched high and low, can't seemed to find the place/links to upload the documents.

This post has been edited by 1ullaby: May 11 2023, 09:06 PM

All documents seem straightforward,
Point C- I think pengamal undang-undang refers to notary public? just getting an endorsement there, do correct me if i'm wrong

Point F- I'm guessing that we could just get this Pelan Asal from the land office? Just walk in and purchase it, please correct me too, kam siah

This post has been edited by 1ullaby: May 11 2023, 10:07 PM

Yes.
Go to lower court... Get it sign..
Pay rm10 per chop 😁

Great that i found this thread
Now that I have the form, now how do we go about getting the original title though as there are bound to be owners that are still on a mortgage and the title is with the bank.
Bank wants some court papers but there's none available for this exercise. There is though a "surat keizinan bertulis (bagi urusan gadaian, kaveat, pajakan)" but I have no freakin' idea if it is to be requested from the bank or there is a template from land office for the bank to sign or something.

But for those that does not have the original title charged to an active mortgage, the land officer I talked to said we may submit the application through the e-Tanah portal with the following steps, however I haven't been able to get past step 6 as I cannot click the "Teruskan Permohonan" button, somehow:
1. "Permohonan" ->
2. "Pelupusan" ->
3. Go to page 2 item #8 "PSBS - Permohonan Serahbalik Berimilik Semula" ->
4. Click "Tindakan" ->
5. Then fill in all fields to search for your plot and click "Tambah" ->
6. Check the relevant property and click "Teruskan Permohonan"
7. I was told that there are relevant fields for applicants to upload the relevant forms but I was not able to get past step 6 for unknown reasons

Please kindly update me if you are able to get past step 6

Great! I did not manage to attend the talk, thanks a mil for the information.
Let me compile my docs, and see if I can get past step 6, will update here.

good luck to you!
lol I called them up by the number on the PDF 03-2610 3354 feeling lucky and got someone to talk to me but yeah i couldn't attend 9 May as well.
I plan to go check it out on coming 21 May 2pm although I don't have my original title but just to see if someone could tell me what to do with original title still with bank charged under mortgage situation.

Likewise you too!
I may see you on 21st, I need some clarification on point F also

I am thinking to suggest thru YB's office, maybe we can engage a lawyer to do the conversion for us. I think case like me which still under financing, dont think the bank will release the original title to us.

i willing to paying some lawyer fee just to get it done. what do you (owners that are involved) think ?

now some lawyer is doing with a admin fee of RM4K, which i think is excessive.

This post has been edited by forever1979: May 12 2023, 12:02 PM

I would actually suggest you to hold on for now. I am engaged on email with the officers with the Timbalan Pengarah in CC for more details how we can do this by ourselves. There may even be a possibility that the original title is not needed, maybe just the certified original copy of the title, but I can't be sure yet. Plus the officers told me this is a long term thing that has no time limit, but of course anything can change e.g. change govt XD

But of course, if you don't mind paying for lawyers to work this hassle out then I won't stop you either

i just engage a lawyer firm.
actually in the market, many lawyer is charging between 4k-6k (all in fee) to apply individual court order to get the new title, not thru the conversation premium that YB mentioned.
as a owner, i think getting the court order is slightly cheaper, so I give it a try, will get it done within 3-6 months time.

This post has been edited by forever1979: May 18 2023, 07:36 PM

I don't know about you but in this telegram group there are people sharing this quotation by a legal firm in Solaris Dutamas called Donny Wong & Co. that is just quoting legal fees with disbursement and service tax of RM 600 for owners without a loan on property and RM 1000 for owners with a loan on property. Sounds like a good deal though I have a better option to settle my loan and take the bank out of the picture. Attached the quotations for with and without loan for your reference.

 For_Owner_with_NO_Loan__original_title_with_Owner_.pdf ( 773.25k ) Number of downloads: 240

 For_Owner_with_Loan__original_title_with_Bank_.pdf ( 773.36k ) Number of downloads: 171


Here's the link to join the telegram group if you're interested. https://t.me/MyTelegramCommunity/2403

This post has been edited by chrisep: May 19 2023, 08:08 AM

from my understanding, there are two different way to do it, either

1. by way of court order. in this case, no need pay premium. as land office will act as per court order. this has been confirmed by the land officer during the last YB's briefing.

2. by paying conversion premium to land office. can done by yourself or with the assistance of land office.

for my case, option 1 is cheaper.

if one opt for option 2, and he is without loan, then he can actually do it online without engage lawyer.

Great! So much good sharing in the telegram group

Hi, May I know the link to the e-Tanah portal that you are referring to?
Btw, any luck in submitting it all via online?

Ehhhhhhhhh..................I thought a lot of property agents and investors said leasehold better the freehold one......why so gung-ho wanna change to freehold

Lol I think you either got the wrong info or someone's playing tricks on you. Maybe you can also share what you were told that leasehold is better than freehold?

Link is here https://www.ptgwp.gov.my/portal/awam-landing-page
However I've found that there's no way to get your original title from the bank if you're on a mortgage except going through a lawyer. So no I haven't proceed with the submission yet.

Assuming you have the title though, you can choose to convert through land office, or by going through a law firm using the court order approach. Only the land office approach can be done by yourself. Not impossible, but it's also not as easy as it seems. In short, you have to get your submission done online on e-Tanah, printout the forms, get borang 12A filled up and endorsed (by pentadbir tanah or any lawyers), go to their counter to submit the physical forms, then wait for approval then notification to pay the premium, and then wait for issuance of new freehold title.

If the court order approach, just pay lol and the lawyers will kaw tim for you. But well if your unit is big, it may be cheaper to go the court order approach. You have to do some homework here. I'm no consultant here. Just a property owner myself.

Maybe it because lease mean the land is leasated(terikat) with owner , where by free is the land is free anyone also can come and grab 😅

Hear like sour grape reply. But both leasehold & freehold have their own pros & cons. I can say this case the leasehold buyer win, freehold buyer lose lolz.

Buy lower price compare to surrounding freehold > changed to freehold title with less than 10K, but market value increased more than 10K+.

For buyer bought freehold before (surrounding), value maintain.

is your property still serving loan?

Hey folks, my law firm just did one conversion case with court order all settled and done. Anyone looking for lawyer can pm me.

yes

spent how much to convert the title?

rm4k

can pm me the lawyer’s number? Thanks 🙏

i dont have a pleasant dealing with the lawyer

i wont recommend

Haha..cool