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PENDEDAHAN EX-FOUNDER kosmetik
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TScroydon
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May 2 2023, 10:05 PM, updated 3y ago
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https://www.facebook.com/theharshaw/posts/p...WW6FUErDsgoNVal» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE POST NI DAH 3X KENA DELETE.
PENDEDAHAN EX-FOUNDER
aku sebagai ex founder nak reveal sikit pengalaman buat bisnes tahun 2016 dahulu.
1. GENG FOUNDER Atas ajakan rakan , aku sertai komuniti founder berpusat di negeri Vlantan. Diorang invite sebab diorang kata aku ada rupa dan boleh success. Kalau korang pernah tengok satu video founder2 berkumpul OOTD dalam sebuah rumah , ha geng tu la. Aku pun ada , tapi sebagai picisan je. Sebab aku bukan bangsa K , so taraf aku jatuh gred B atau C je.
2. SUPPLIER Kilang kosmetik OEM bertaraf GMP ada di Vlantan , Kedah , Selangor , Perak dan Selangor. Aku dulu guna kilang di Jalan Klang Lama. Femes sebab time tu dia banyak jadi supplier Pomade. Masa aku lawat kilang , banyak spot banyak produk artis dan beberapa jutawan yang aku ingat dia ada kilang sendiri. Rupanya OEM juga. 😅. Geng lain ada yang suggest pakai kilang thailand. Jauh lebih murah. Tapi disebabkan aku di Klang Valley , saya ambil disini saja. Lagipun diorang taknak bagi aku deal sendiri dengan kilang. Kena melalui diorang. Mungkin sebab aku bukan bangsa K. Produk Thailand juga dikenali Timbang Kilo , seperti gambar. Tak tau macam mana diseludup masuk tapi packaging kena buat sendiri.
3. PERBINCANGAN Masa discuss dengan kilang , aku buat keputusan nak buat Krim Muka. Kilang listkan nak bau macam mana , bentuk macam mana . Ketika tu takda packaging. Buat diluar dan hantar ke kilang. MOQ minimum 500pcs. Satu jatuh kos RM 10.80. Aku boleh jual retail dalam RM30. Kilang tu sendiri akan uruskan dapat NOT KKM. Kalau buat di kilang thailand , kos modal quote dalam RM 3.40 (seplastik) tapi urusan KKM aku kena uruskan sendiri. Kalau korang ingat ada founder yang produk dia kantoi ada merkuri , haa dia pakai kilang Thailand la tu.
4. MODAL. Kos produk awal dalam 15k. Kos marketing spend minimum dalam 30k termasuk sewa kereta , rumah dan fb/ig ads. Waktu tu tiktok orang tak pakai sangat dalam bisnes. So aku buat loan 40k dan tambah sikit duit simpanan dalam 10k.
5. DATABASE Waktu tu Geng Founder ada share database agen yang bernaung bawah mereka. Tapi kena bayar sikit. Tak ingat berapa tapi dalam 5k jugak. Jadi jangan terkejut kalau korang jadi stokis untuk produk A, tiba-tiba dapat invitation jual produk B pulak. Cuma stokis ni satu je mindset dia , produk baru , jadi yang terawal jual cepat2. Lepas tu cari produk lain.
6. MARKETING Ada beberapa founder yang memang ada kereta super mewah akan bantu bagi kereta kat kami untuk marketing. Pilih je nak kereta apa. NAMA AKAN DITUKAR SEMENTARA KEPADA NAMA KAMI. TERMASUK INTERCHANGE NUMBER PLAT DAN SPRAY WARNA BARU. Dan ada agreement. Biasanya tempoh sewaan dalam 3 bulan ke setahun. Takda bayaran dikenakan. Cuma mereka nak percent daripada jumlah keuntungan untuk sepanjang tempoh 'sewaan' tu . Bagi owner yang success, dia akan beli terus kereta tu sebab taknak dicop scammer bila tiba-tiba naik myvi 3rd gen dengan masalah oil filternya. Malu wey. .Bagi yang melingkup awal , kereta mewah tu akan dipulang balik.
Selain kereta , Founder juga ada buat sewaan rumah mewah untuk tujuan marketing sahaja. Biasanya kami ambik beribu gambar dalam beberapa hari dan dengan baju yang berbeza . Tapi gambar tu akan dipost di media sosial sikit2 setiap hari. Oleh sebab lokasinya jauh di Vlantan , aku sewa 3 hari je.
6. JUALAN. Aku berjaya jual 6000 pcs dalam masa seminggu je. Tapi semua aku jual dengan agen. Agen yang biasa buat fake review dan marketing. Keuntungan aku dapat dalam RM 12 setiap satu. So untung kasar dalam RM 90,000. Untung bersih dalam RM 40,000. Kalau aku pakai kilang Thailand, untung bersih aku akan jadi dalam 100k -200k. Sebab tu geng yang buat di kilang Thailand , mudah nak jadi jutawan dengan 2-3 cycle je.
7. END OF STORY Oleh sebab aku start dengan beberapa penipuan , maka rasa bersalah dan aku tak sanggup teruskan. Dan aku pun stop. Ramai agen bising barang tak dapat dijual sebab aku tak aktif dalam IG dan dah stop upload gambar .
Ni antara penipuan aku buat yang juga diajar oleh Geng Founder :
1. Acah-acah ada kereta mewah. Penipuan dapat disorok sebab kereta tukar nama kepada nama aku dan nombor plat pun tukar.
2. Overclaim. Buat review palsu bersama agen dan founder lain Kami bertukar-tukar review je. Tapi banyak penipuan review agen yang buat dan share sesama diorang. Waktu tu aku ada dalam 40-50 orang agen satu Malaysia.
3. Acah-Acah ada rumah mewah. Padahal semua fake. Aku ambik beratus gambar dan upload ke IG sikit-sikit atas nasihat founder lain. Aku stop upload sebab setiap kali upload memang rasa bersalah teramat.
4. Yang ni aku tak buat. Tapi kesalahan aku adalah diamkan sahaja benda ni. Banyak produk Timbang Kilo dipasaran lulus KKM. Sebab apa yang dihantar untuk test lain. Tapi apa yang dijual lain. Harap KKM boleh perbanyakkan operasi. Ni antara skandal penipuan terbesar oleh Geng Founder ni
*Ada banyak lagi .
Bila mula dengan penipuan , kita akan tutup penipuan dengan penipuan juga.
Akhirnya , untung aku tu aku bagi sama rata dengan semua agen dan bayar full settlement loan. Sebab aku tak rasa keberkatan pun bila belanja duit tu.
Founder yang korang tgk kt ig/tiktok tu memang legit , tapi setelah berbisnes 1-3 cycles. Sebab lepas berjaya , dia akan beli rumah dan kereta mewah. Cuma , kejayaan mereka bermula dengan penipuan. Ada juga founder yang lepas sukses first cycle , stop buat dan gunakan untuk bukak restoren , kedai elektronik dan lain-lain.
SEKADAR PEDOMAN UNTUK SEMUA. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Disebabkan akaun kene mute 72 Jam, tak dapat nak respon mana-mana komen. Tapi dah baca semua komen semua. Terima kasih atas support dan ternyata ramai boleh verify. Geng Founder dah tak mampu nak report post yang direpost beribu kali. Bagi pihak sana yang cuba hubungi aku , aku dah one step ahead. Takda apa yang nak dibincangkan. Satu-satunya jejak yang aku tinggalkan adalah alamat rumah. Depan tu ada tanah. Korang suka menanam kan?
Dikesempatan ni (sebelum kena mute lagi) , aku nak memperjelas sesuatu berkenaan post sebelum ni
1. Vlantan
Ejaan demikian sebab post asalnya di group yang mana perkataan tersebut dianggap racist dan Taboo untuk ditaip. Bukan untuk hentam negeri tapi spesifik untuk Founder Timbang Kilo . Disebabkan Geografi negeri tersebut sangat dekat dengan Kilang Timbang Kilo di Thailand dan menjadi lokasi terbaik untuk OEM Fake , lokasi Jutawan Palsu pun ramai muncul dari sana. Jangan terkejut Kilang OEM Fake kat sana belakang semak pun ada. Dan disebabkan istilah "Sek Kawe" tu , ramai pegawai kerajaan tak boleh buat kerja disana sebab yang terlibat semua sedara sendiri. Yang jujur buat kerja pulak tiba-tiba ada penyakit misteri. Gred 19, 29 dan 41 ramai tua tua kat sana sebab tolak naik pangkat semata mata untuk tak nak berpindah negeri. HQ taknak turun ke?
2.Geng Founder
Ramai diantara mereka dah cuci tangan dan muncul dengan buat buka business lain dengan duit separa haram tu. Cuma ada diantara mereka masih menjadi Funder kepada New Founder masing-masing untuk menipu dengan supply Kereta Mewah dan Rumah Mewah. Yang ada bisnes lain berpuluh cawangan tu , aku taknak tutup periuk nasi pekerja mereka. Yang tu biarlah Founder tu jawab sendiri diakhirat nanti . Tapi aku masih dahagakan surat saman korang. Bila nak bagi? Pengecut ke .
3. Kilang OEM
Ada dua. Satu yang memang berlesen dan berstatus GMP. Satu lagi kilang OEM buatan sendiri yang beli mesin di AliBaba . Kos mesin dalam 15k dah boleh dapat entry level punya. Juga hasil daripada duit separa haram tu. Founder yang guna kilang OEM GMP ni keuntungan memang tak banyak. Sekitar 20% sahaja . Itupun belum tolak kos marketing Manakala Founder yang guna kilang OEM Fake dan Timbang Kilo ni untung sehingga 1000% . Modal RM1 sebotol , jual RM60.
4. Taktik Fake Product
Daripada post asal , aku rasa kena tambah satu lagi . Lepas produk 1st Batch dah terjual habis biasanya ramai komplen tak berkesan dan rosak muka. Inilah datangnya Taktik Fake Product ni. Founder akan buat 2nd Batch dan mulakan propaganda botol lamanya adalah Fake. Yang bijaknya , mereka dah start guna kilang OEM GMP pulak ! Takda orang pun nak fake kan produk diorang kecuali founder sendiri. Dan buyer pun terpedaya dengan beli 2nd Batch pulak. Dua kali kena tipu. Itu ke dikatakan bijak berniaga?
Pegawai kerajaan belum balik daripada Cuti Raya ke? Banyak kerja nak buat selepas ni. Dah la banyak Rumah Terbuka dalam Jabatan, kan? PM McDani dah kata untuk berjimat , korang paksa pegawaj korang menyumbang pulak untuk jamuan raya. This post has been edited by croydon: May 7 2023, 11:09 PM
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grumpydrive
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May 2 2023, 10:08 PM
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That's why i never dare buy those QuPuteh products or that mamat Dato' lembut sapa ntah nama dia. All timbang kilo type. That actress Wawa Zainal humblebrag buy hubby new cars.. business must be good.
This post has been edited by grumpydrive: May 2 2023, 10:12 PM
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Ashadiya
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May 2 2023, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(grumpydrive @ May 2 2023, 10:08 PM) That's why i never dare buy those QuPuteh products or that mamat Dato' lembut sapa ntah nama dia. All timbang kilo type. That actress Wawa Zainal humblebrag buy hubby new cars.. business must be good.Was that d car "bought" den sold back one month later coz she doesn't want it or something
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imin
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May 2 2023, 10:19 PM
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Founder penipu tu satu, satu lagi halnya orang yang dok beli produk-produk sampah tu, dengan alasan nak tolong orang M. Padan muka korang
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kraziekd
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May 2 2023, 10:21 PM
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dumb malaysians and buying questionable beauty products pisah tiada
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s@ni
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May 2 2023, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(imin @ May 2 2023, 10:19 PM) Founder penipu tu satu, satu lagi halnya orang yang dok beli produk-produk sampah tu, dengan alasan nak tolong orang M. Padan muka korang Kan... Adan ukeeeee BTW kesian kementerian kesihatan.. 😭😭 Banyak masalah kesihatan nanti.
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shuin1986
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May 2 2023, 10:22 PM
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Luckily i only buy skincare from reputation brand with own research lab like Kiehls, Neutrogena, Aveeno, etc
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seiferalmercy
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May 2 2023, 10:22 PM
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tak tipu bukan…
OHWAIIIIIIII
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grumpydrive
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May 2 2023, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(Ashadiya @ May 2 2023, 10:17 PM) Was that d car "bought" den sold back one month later coz she doesn't want it or something dunno sometimes google feed kasi local celeb gossips. I think I saw it 2 times timeline near each other. Diff cars konon gift for hubby lah apa benda.
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pisces88
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May 2 2023, 10:24 PM
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MARKETING Ada beberapa founder yang memang ada kereta super mewah akan bantu bagi kereta kat kami untuk marketing. Pilih je nak kereta apa. NAMA AKAN DITUKAR SEMENTARA KEPADA NAMA KAMI. TERMASUK INTERCHANGE NUMBER PLAT DAN SPRAY WARNA BARU. Dan ada agreement. Biasanya tempoh sewaan dalam 3 bulan ke setahun. Takda bayaran dikenakan. Cuma mereka nak percent daripada jumlah keuntungan untuk sepanjang tempoh 'sewaan' tu . Bagi owner yang success, dia akan beli terus kereta tu sebab taknak dicop scammer bila tiba-tiba naik myvi 3rd gen dengan masalah oil filternya. Malu wey. .Bagi yang melingkup awal , kereta mewah tu akan dipulang balik.
this is something new, never knew kereta also tukar nama and spray new color. ingatkan sewa je
This post has been edited by pisces88: May 2 2023, 10:24 PM
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TOMEI-R
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May 2 2023, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ May 2 2023, 10:24 PM) MARKETING Ada beberapa founder yang memang ada kereta super mewah akan bantu bagi kereta kat kami untuk marketing. Pilih je nak kereta apa. NAMA AKAN DITUKAR SEMENTARA KEPADA NAMA KAMI. TERMASUK INTERCHANGE NUMBER PLAT DAN SPRAY WARNA BARU. Dan ada agreement. Biasanya tempoh sewaan dalam 3 bulan ke setahun. Takda bayaran dikenakan. Cuma mereka nak percent daripada jumlah keuntungan untuk sepanjang tempoh 'sewaan' tu . Bagi owner yang success, dia akan beli terus kereta tu sebab taknak dicop scammer bila tiba-tiba naik myvi 3rd gen dengan masalah oil filternya. Malu wey. .Bagi yang melingkup awal , kereta mewah tu akan dipulang balik. this is something new, never knew kereta also tukar nama and spray new color. ingatkan sewa je A lot of thecars are sambung bayar cars which are widely available on FB marketplace.
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Ashadiya
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May 2 2023, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ May 2 2023, 10:24 PM) MARKETING Ada beberapa founder yang memang ada kereta super mewah akan bantu bagi kereta kat kami untuk marketing. Pilih je nak kereta apa. NAMA AKAN DITUKAR SEMENTARA KEPADA NAMA KAMI. TERMASUK INTERCHANGE NUMBER PLAT DAN SPRAY WARNA BARU. Dan ada agreement. Biasanya tempoh sewaan dalam 3 bulan ke setahun. Takda bayaran dikenakan. Cuma mereka nak percent daripada jumlah keuntungan untuk sepanjang tempoh 'sewaan' tu . Bagi owner yang success, dia akan beli terus kereta tu sebab taknak dicop scammer bila tiba-tiba naik myvi 3rd gen dengan masalah oil filternya. Malu wey. .Bagi yang melingkup awal , kereta mewah tu akan dipulang balik. this is something new, never knew kereta also tukar nama and spray new color. ingatkan sewa je Was wondering about that, if say someone change a name of his a lambo to u, u wanna change back it to them at later date, im curious about this
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sonypshomer
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May 2 2023, 10:41 PM
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Janji pertahankan kepimpinan ularmak
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Ewww!
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May 2 2023, 10:42 PM
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Support jer laaa. Janji BMF. Lol!
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slaveone
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May 2 2023, 10:48 PM
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MO nothing new
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Phoenix_KL
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May 2 2023, 10:51 PM
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willing to be scammed so........
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ClericKilla
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May 2 2023, 10:52 PM
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Ya good business.
Forever got people will buy because country dirt poor and people wanna look beautiful la
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MrBaba
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May 2 2023, 10:53 PM
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Tak be gang confuse will buy regardless janji bmf from kilang non
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SUSrtk74
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May 2 2023, 11:00 PM
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RtK knew long time ady. Sometimes cinis will work with meleis as "investor"
last time was the "juices" got OEM Kilang in KV oso.
if got 1% of the said amount can just saw have "xxx extract" although not enough to do much. Mostly placebo
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SUSGrandpaKitchen
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May 2 2023, 11:07 PM
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YOU DON'T SAAAAYYYYY
WAIT TILL THEY TUMPANG AGAMA AND JUAL PRODUCT SUCI ETC MESRA ETC WITH CELEB AMBASSADOR ENDORSEMENT ETC
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SUSOlgakureylenko
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May 2 2023, 11:09 PM
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Vlantan....hahaha
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supsupsui
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May 2 2023, 11:18 PM
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6. JUALAN. Aku berjaya jual 6000 pcs dalam masa seminggu je. Tapi semua aku jual dengan agen. Agen yang biasa buat fake review dan marketing. Keuntungan aku dapat dalam RM 12 setiap satu. So untung kasar dalam RM 90,000. Untung bersih dalam RM 40,000. Kalau aku pakai kilang Thailand, untung bersih aku akan jadi dalam 100k -200k. Sebab tu geng yang buat di kilang Thailand , mudah nak jadi jutawan dengan 2-3 cycle je.
fuyoh
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mousqy
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May 2 2023, 11:31 PM
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lar org baru tau ke cosmetic timbang kati ni
beli pastu tampal la label2 ape kau nak
pastu b40 beli
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keybearer
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May 2 2023, 11:40 PM
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Wow she's going all in, kudos to ya. Serambi Moscow getting firebombed today.
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zerorating
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May 2 2023, 11:46 PM
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3 digit profit margin yoh.
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SUSrtk74
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May 2 2023, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(keybearer @ May 2 2023, 11:40 PM) Wow she's going all in, kudos to ya. Serambi Moscow getting firebombed today. Ofcos it's from that state....
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s@ni
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May 2 2023, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(keybearer @ May 2 2023, 11:40 PM) Wow she's going all in, kudos to ya. Serambi Moscow getting firebombed today. Hahahahahha repair suspension rm45k oiiii pinjam duit b40
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SUSskyblu3
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May 2 2023, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ May 2 2023, 10:21 PM) dumb malaysians and buying questionable beauty products pisah tiada I'm more curious to know what happen to the buyers and users of these kilang OKR products. Any side effect or not?
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JonSpark
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May 2 2023, 11:58 PM
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> Sebab aku bukan bangsa K , so taraf aku jatuh gred B atau C je.
lol
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K.I.T.T
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May 3 2023, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ May 2 2023, 10:24 PM) MARKETING Ada beberapa founder yang memang ada kereta super mewah akan bantu bagi kereta kat kami untuk marketing. Pilih je nak kereta apa. NAMA AKAN DITUKAR SEMENTARA KEPADA NAMA KAMI. TERMASUK INTERCHANGE NUMBER PLAT DAN SPRAY WARNA BARU. Dan ada agreement. Biasanya tempoh sewaan dalam 3 bulan ke setahun. Takda bayaran dikenakan. Cuma mereka nak percent daripada jumlah keuntungan untuk sepanjang tempoh 'sewaan' tu . Bagi owner yang success, dia akan beli terus kereta tu sebab taknak dicop scammer bila tiba-tiba naik myvi 3rd gen dengan masalah oil filternya. Malu wey. .Bagi yang melingkup awal , kereta mewah tu akan dipulang balik. this is something new, never knew kereta also tukar nama and spray new color. ingatkan sewa je tak pulak LHDN datang buat sitevisit.
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SUSrtk74
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May 3 2023, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 2 2023, 11:56 PM) I'm more curious to know what happen to the buyers and users of these kilang OKR products. Any side effect or not? generally no effects ( both good & bad) Alot of fillers and the active ingredients can be 1PPM.
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premier239
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May 3 2023, 12:27 AM
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actually dun even need her to expose
all willingly buy even knowing those products are shady, reason is what we all know
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pisces88
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May 3 2023, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 3 2023, 12:11 AM) tak pulak LHDN datang buat sitevisit. mesti founders semua tu ada contact dan 'dato' 'dato' la...mana berani kacau
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Knnbuccb
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May 3 2023, 12:41 AM
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Hahahahaha omg last few months I got mention easiest way to be rich is to do supplement or beauty products etc by engaging OEM factories w then someone ask me " if so easy why I don't do" QUOTE I mentioned many times before....
Easy way to get rich in marehsia is sell supplement and tudung ... U don't even need relevant degree or what shit in pharmacology, just use that 4 years degree to do some reading , get an OEM vitamin manufacturer to produce the supplements and I can even tell them how u want the packaging to be like
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=107015666I alrdy said it's just because I got something to lose ifu got ntg to lose, sure can do , low risk high returns if u got soemthing to lose it becomes high risk This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: May 3 2023, 12:50 AM
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K.I.T.T
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May 3 2023, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ May 3 2023, 12:31 AM) mesti founders semua tu ada contact dan 'dato' 'dato' la...mana berani kacau sedih tengok realiti perniagaan kat malaysia ni.
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SUSKaya Butter Toast
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May 3 2023, 01:01 AM
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BMF. Kito pegang, kito sokong
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amboi_asamboi
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May 3 2023, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ May 2 2023, 10:41 PM) Janji pertahankan kepimpinan ularmak
Ohhh PAS Patut la kuat menipu
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spamfish
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May 3 2023, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ May 2 2023, 10:21 PM) dumb malaysians and buying questionable beauty products pisah tiada asalkan BMF...produk lain yahudi dan tidak halal
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pandah
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May 3 2023, 01:08 AM
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Supplement also many, last time around chowkit so many selling whatever shit packets of supplements, don't know apa lanjiao ingredients, but got ppl buy and drink, really don't know why ppl trust these shits.
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amboi_asamboi
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May 3 2023, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ May 3 2023, 12:31 AM) mesti founders semua tu ada contact dan 'dato' 'dato' la...mana berani kacau Thats why Malaysia ranks highest in power distance worldwide First, malaysians are segregated into bumi & non bumi Then, dato, datuk, datuk seri, datuk wira, tan sri, whatever title Then the helang, the t20, t10, t5, number plate ada logo etc Pastu ada bangsa j, bangsa k, s4s, … Padan muka one day become like india with caste system This post has been edited by amboi_asamboi: May 3 2023, 01:13 AM
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YamiBear
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May 3 2023, 01:27 AM
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Dealt with Kelantanese before. Boleh kutuk member lain masalah sosial lain cop geng masuk neraka tapi pekerjaan dia sendiri haram. Lmao.
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StorMx
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May 3 2023, 03:02 AM
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Imagine how many sunkist kita is dikanserkan by sunkist kita also.
Last last blame ____________
This post has been edited by StorMx: May 3 2023, 03:03 AM
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Azran1979
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May 3 2023, 03:26 AM
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this is why i enjoy reading shopee reviews.
the mentality of the buyers themselves are contributing factors.
our people will buy anything as long as its cheap.
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AfraidIGotBan
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May 3 2023, 04:56 AM
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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ May 2 2023, 07:26 PM) this is why i enjoy reading shopee reviews. the mentality of the buyers themselves are contributing factors. our people will buy anything as long as its cheap. Most asian is the same. Class can be differentiate right away from how they review stuff. Delicious, looks, bla bla bla. Fake rich will say ambience la, serbis la, appearance la, etc. I dunno real rich, but my level makan with others also you'll sometimes see people rich like fuark, but eat sushi can comment the word says "why all also raw raw one? Japanese omakase so terrible?" I wonder those people that really see the rich peeps comment liddat will comment what in their mind lel.
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SUStonewow
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May 3 2023, 05:33 AM
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this is exactly why b40 deserve all those exploitations.
apalagi warga2 /k yg pandai belaka...tekan minyak kaw2 la pakai buang b40 yg berlambak kat luar sana haha.
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SUSskyblu3
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May 3 2023, 05:55 AM
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ May 3 2023, 12:25 AM) generally no effects ( both good & bad) Alot of fillers and the active ingredients can be 1PPM. You got also use is it? Not bad you look
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ruffy_z
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May 3 2023, 06:03 AM
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Well they succeeded in making bangsa m uneducated and this is the result
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Epci
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May 3 2023, 06:29 AM
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Park
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Ayer
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May 3 2023, 06:41 AM
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Vlantan kek. Need censor bc easily butthurt
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Henry T
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May 3 2023, 06:42 AM
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Suckers are born every second. 😛
Caveat emptor.
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delon85
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May 3 2023, 07:04 AM
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Business halal or not
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Ayambetul
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May 3 2023, 07:09 AM
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QUOTE(imin @ May 2 2023, 10:19 PM) Founder penipu tu satu, satu lagi halnya orang yang dok beli produk-produk sampah tu, dengan alasan nak tolong orang M. Padan muka korang BMF bhai Kito tolong kitooooooo
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Ayambetul
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May 3 2023, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE(tonewow @ May 3 2023, 05:33 AM) this is exactly why b40 deserve all those exploitations. apalagi warga2 /k yg pandai belaka...tekan minyak kaw2 la pakai buang b40 yg berlambak kat luar sana haha. To get out from b40, one need to step on other b40 head
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ketupatlazat
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May 3 2023, 07:13 AM
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till today I wonder who the hell buys these celup products
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ListenToTheWind
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May 3 2023, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(ketupatlazat @ May 3 2023, 07:13 AM) till today I wonder who the hell buys these celup products Ma amoi Sabahan b40 factory worker is one of them Yesterday only she bought some questiionable chocolate bar, packaging got halal logo but dont have manufacturer address, no expiry date whatsoever. And the best part, its darn expensive Just because she watch someone selling on Tiktok B40 deserve to be b40. I fail to comprehend their brain logic
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AfraidIGotBan
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May 3 2023, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ May 2 2023, 11:21 PM) Ma amoi Sabahan b40 factory worker is one of them Yesterday only she bought some questiionable chocolate bar, packaging got halal logo but dont have manufacturer address, no expiry date whatsoever. And the best part, its darn expensive Just because she watch someone selling on Tiktok B40 deserve to be b40. I fail to comprehend their brain logic their logic is always "if other use too, it means the fuck is good shit." Like my wife. Dunno how many time she kantoi d. Listen to those douyin video saying how to adjust mentality and what's hot nowadays in jewelry, then she'll buy them and wear out LCLY to friends. Padahal, that already a year to two years ago punya model. And this is when we got moolah, but no class. Sadge.
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ze2
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May 3 2023, 07:30 AM
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Guna Tanpa was was...puas
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Acoen
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May 3 2023, 07:31 AM
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Where is Vlatan?
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pureawesomeness
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May 3 2023, 07:35 AM
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When every brown face wants to be white, there'll be business for these people.
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tom_tombak
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May 3 2023, 07:40 AM
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Vlantan wife become founder & men become slave for wife as long can drive lambo
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ZeroSOFInfinity
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May 3 2023, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ May 2 2023, 10:41 PM) Janji pertahankan kepimpinan ularmak
Join us = "join the Moon" = PLOTEK PLOTEK!
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Chisinlouz
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May 3 2023, 07:49 AM
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Nampak bendera. Confirm product suci dan murni.
-lebailogic
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galkelly
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May 3 2023, 07:49 AM
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Also depend she willing to work to sell it
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Capt. Marble
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May 3 2023, 07:52 AM
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Kalau tidak tipu... wait a minute... greed is the enemy. This fella that post the artcile at least ada conscience.
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lawliet88
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May 3 2023, 07:52 AM
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At first i tot selling scam useless kosmetik Turn out is scamming own race Kekw
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delon85
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May 3 2023, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ May 3 2023, 07:21 AM) Ma amoi Sabahan b40 factory worker is one of them Yesterday only she bought some questiionable chocolate bar, packaging got halal logo but dont have manufacturer address, no expiry date whatsoever. And the best part, its darn expensive Just because she watch someone selling on Tiktok B40 deserve to be b40. I fail to comprehend their brain logic No address, no expiry date. Break law liao
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ListenToTheWind
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May 3 2023, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 3 2023, 08:40 AM) No address, no expiry date. Break law liao Thats why these questionable products never made it to the shelf, can only sell through platform like Tiktok through their agents. I had told her again-again, only shop for items from shop and not from some influenzer.
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JohnnyBeGud
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May 3 2023, 09:30 AM
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Serious question: why do they call themselves "founder"?
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raymancantona
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May 3 2023, 09:32 AM
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Dah undi Pas, beli product timbang kilo lak
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karazure
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May 3 2023, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(imin @ May 2 2023, 10:19 PM) Founder penipu tu satu, satu lagi halnya orang yang dok beli produk-produk sampah tu, dengan alasan nak tolong orang M. Padan muka korang unker tak boleh paham, benda yang sapu dekat muka senang sgt percaya atas nama tolong oreng... tak kecian pun kena scam tak henti henti...
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teikboon
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May 3 2023, 09:56 AM
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janji kasi orang sendiri kayo
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sparketh
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May 3 2023, 10:04 AM
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One thing kkm does it continuous surveillance. So her claim that they send one batch for testing but selling lower quality batch to customers is kinda brave for her. That is to imply is sleeping ? Also majority of cosmetic of small brands are all oem. Apa fantasy she talking about ? Like someone small brand can spend tens of millions to get kkm cert. To get halal chop and then sell for rm30 ? Takde economy of scale makcik. But the biggest issue is the 3rd party ppl she work with. Those brokers who leverage and use wealth to show success. Disgusting !
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skeith
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May 3 2023, 10:06 AM
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as expected lar ah dui.
same like bangsa C juga.
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iOnine
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May 3 2023, 10:06 AM
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from timbang kilo to FX. next, expose FX founder pulak ke.
hmmm.. ok.
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sunami
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May 3 2023, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(skeith @ May 3 2023, 11:06 AM) as expected lar ah dui. same like bangsa C juga. wat is bangsa C?
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ki_maxs
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May 3 2023, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ May 2 2023, 10:41 PM) Janji pertahankan kepimpinan ularmak
bodo sapokting bodo
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pinamorita
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May 3 2023, 10:09 AM
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lol those cheap plastic bags
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Avangelice
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May 3 2023, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(skeith @ May 3 2023, 10:06 AM) as expected lar ah dui. same like bangsa C juga. Melayu yang buat, cina dapig yang kena. You gila kah?
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skeith
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May 3 2023, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 3 2023, 10:20 AM) Melayu yang buat, cina dapig yang kena. You gila kah? lol. did i say M buat C kena? i was saying C also did the same thing. good car good house good shit but all scam
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xpole
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May 3 2023, 10:41 AM
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Honestly if u mixed with a lot of people from different background, u will be surprised with some of their mentalities and IQ.
Even though KKM already provided so many awareness about Timbang Kilo products, there are a lot Malay ladies out there that still buy the sampah products
U can't help this people anymore. Tegur pun tak ada gunanya
Let them sick / experience side effect of taking the product then they will take it as lesson
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xtreme_paranoid
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May 3 2023, 11:01 AM
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Insurance/property agent how? Hahahahaha
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Knnbuccb
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May 3 2023, 11:10 AM
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lol mana orang yang kecam me when i made statement
seems like this girl just corroborated all my statements
even in google u can find, factories that can manufacture according to ur specificiations just tell them what ingredient u want, what bottle design, etc etc they settle
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prdkancil
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May 3 2023, 11:10 AM
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Mcm lar most MLM product , kita tak jual dlm super market , Guardian , Watsons dan farmasi sebab kita tak mau product jadi mahai , kita jual direct cheaper . Padahal product tak boleh lepas lab test pun.
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May 3 2023, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(prdkancil @ May 3 2023, 11:10 AM) Mcm lar most MLM product , kita tak jual dlm super market , Guardian , Watsons dan farmasi sebab kita tak mau product jadi mahai , kita jual direct cheaper . Padahal product tak boleh lepas lab test pun. yeah la tu, as long as helping on bangsa...... somemore is cheap. and not western brand. and so call the save cost on advertising and supply chain. so must buy buy.
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arif85124
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May 3 2023, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(prdkancil @ May 3 2023, 11:10 AM) Mcm lar most MLM product , kita tak jual dlm super market , Guardian , Watsons dan farmasi sebab kita tak mau product jadi mahai , kita jual direct cheaper . Padahal product tak boleh lepas lab test pun. that my take also if health product not available on pharmacy, likely scam product that harm user me think even pharmacy got product with dubious health benefit, at least it more on safe side
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Knnbuccb
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May 3 2023, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ May 3 2023, 11:15 AM) yeah la tu, as long as helping on bangsa...... somemore is cheap. and not western brand. and so call the save cost on advertising and supply chain. so must buy buy. i dont think some of those products are cheap they can be even more expensive due to the need to give each upline a cut.
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emburrar
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May 3 2023, 12:41 PM
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Cari rezeki
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MegaCanonF
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May 3 2023, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(sparketh @ May 3 2023, 10:04 AM) One thing kkm does it continuous surveillance. So her claim that they send one batch for testing but selling lower quality batch to customers is kinda brave for her. That is to imply is sleeping ? Also majority of cosmetic of small brands are all oem. Apa fantasy she talking about ? Like someone small brand can spend tens of millions to get kkm cert. To get halal chop and then sell for rm30 ? Takde economy of scale makcik. But the biggest issue is the 3rd party ppl she work with. Those brokers who leverage and use wealth to show success. Disgusting ! lol wut since when kkm cert need millions? notification fee for cosmetic is just rm50 la woi
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9m2w
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May 3 2023, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ May 2 2023, 10:41 PM) Janji pertahankan kepimpinan ularmak
They couldn't do the drive by shot in a dual lane road? Opposite car actually slowed down to let all of them cut back in for that shot. So kind of him
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pgsiemkia
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May 3 2023, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(shuin1986 @ May 2 2023, 10:22 PM) Luckily i only buy skincare from reputation brand with own research lab like Kiehls, Neutrogena, Aveeno, etc Orang kampung percaya puak sendiri onli or artis glamer. Barang om putih mahal xleh caya…heard before?
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k_yagami
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May 3 2023, 01:55 PM
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Jahatnya geng vlantan ni semua Promote bersih, suci, tapi...
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nazrul90
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May 3 2023, 04:05 PM
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>Vlantan
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fadzly
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May 3 2023, 04:51 PM
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NOT should be revamp. NPRA MOH should do something about it. simply declaring is no longer a good thing. Companies abusing the NOT. Normal people will think anything from KKM including NOT is safe product. Test the item first before allowing the item to be on the market. A lot of products were found to have poisons not by us, but Singapore and Brunei. And we used their test to ban the item locally.
This is quite similar to the "Healthy Choice Logo" where soda drinks were found to have that healthier logo. People will choose it simply because it was healthy, but turn out to be healthier than any other similar product. TF... nobody knows about that product compared, and it was not listed which one which.now some have both healthier choice from SG and MY..
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POYOZER
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May 3 2023, 10:05 PM
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Quick rich
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ezze22
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May 4 2023, 01:02 PM
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I despise these type of MLM products. Last time it was health supplements. Those so called miracle products, pills, mineral water, milk powder, juice, magnets, etc that can cure 101 disease. Buah pinggang, lemah jantung, kencing manis, gaut, darah tinggi, etc. You name it, all claimed can cure. All proven by a paragraph of testimony from my grandmother's neighbor's second cousin ex-sister in law school mate who uses the said product. And these products are not cheap yo. Many people fall to these scam.
Now it it cosmetics MLM style. Selling cheap products at high price, using influencers, celebrities as testimony that the products works. Some more can ride on religion, halal bersih suci. Owai
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leftycall9
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May 4 2023, 01:09 PM
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I think nowadays many got awareness edy to not support these timbang kilo products but instead get skincare & beauty products from local pharmacies and official stores on websites or online shopping platform.
Plus this kind of 'entrepreneur' love to put prices ridiculously high. Products timbang kilo je pun tapi letak harga macam well known pharmacy brands. Really stupid to those who still buying and using them.
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