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post May 8 2023, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(kueks @ May 7 2023, 10:26 PM)
got welt from the free 5 star 50/50 pull beginner event

sigh
so demotivated hahaha

tot can get at least a S tier to motivate playing longer xD
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Welt isn't that bad.

He's said to be very good because he's a debuffer. He'll keep slowing enemies down, your team can practically hit twice per turn.

And don't trust any "tier list" at the moment.

Back when Genshin was new, Razor was S Tier while Bennett & XingQiu was like E Tier.

There are very few legit good content creators for Star Rail now.

I got Bronya, supposedly Super S Tier...but felt she's kinda mehhh. Got Clara, another Super S Tier...but she has some issues as well.

Probably cause we're still at the early phase of the game.
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post May 9 2023, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Szzz @ May 9 2023, 06:56 AM)
Can't go wrong with Bronya even in Genshin context. ATK and Crit Dmg buffer too good.

Clara is a weird one. She is S Tier because her potential dmg ceiling is the highest. But her playstyle is very counterintuitive since you want to get hit by enemy. Means not CCing or less weakness breaking enemy.

But yeah I seen many guides, and I'm doubting many of them lol.
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Skill Point economy is kinda difficult with Bronya. But yea, she has the rare crit dmg buff.

During beta, she practically gives an additional turn to the character she buffed, that's broken AF & got nerfed. So, a lot of noob guides are just parroting whatever the old beta testers used to say.

Clara is highly ranked just because of 1 reason, she can attack outside her turn. It's like the off-field DPS in Genshin. This is highly valued in a turn based game.

She can still break enemies' toughness bar, as long as they're weak to Physical like Kafka in SU World 5


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post May 11 2023, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(Szzz @ May 11 2023, 01:02 PM)
I just realized we don't have off-set piece relics here unlike Genshin where we can wear 1 random artifact from any set.

Relics gotta be the exact sets here. Don't be like me and get 5* Quantum dmg on the stupid def set
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You can craft relics & set the primary stat.

So, only need to gamble on the sub stats.
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post May 17 2023, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(kueks @ May 16 2023, 08:03 PM)
seele worth it or not to whale

hahahaha

i lost the 50/50 to himeko

fffffffffffffffffml
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I have Seele, but still level 20.

So can't comment much sweat.gif

Himeko isn't too bad, not meta at the moment.

But if you put her, Dan Heng & March in team. Then borrow someone's else Welt via support to clear a domain...you'll get a hidden achievement.

That'll help to recover back some Stellar Jades.
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post May 17 2023, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Szzz @ May 17 2023, 04:02 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Meta wise, Himeko is a joke lol. Don't think that will ever change.

Wait till Jing Yuan comes out, he will show you what AoE character powerlevel actually is like.

My Himeko is staying at Lv30. Maybe level to Lv50 to get a ticket try cover cost laugh.gif
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Just like Qiqi never become meta lol.
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post May 18 2023, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(kueks @ May 17 2023, 11:30 PM)
so nice

sell ur account to me
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i have himeko, dan heng, march and welt

hmm jing yuan > seele?

haha
how should i spend my energy on daily

increase traces?
or farm relics
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Don't farm relics from Cavern of Corrosion if you're below TL40.

Wait until at least TL40 first to get a guaranteed 5* relic.

Before TL40, you can only farm 5* relics from the simulated universe.

Most people prefer to farm World 3 or World 6. The relic set there is more universal.

I'm already TL45 but I haven't even start farming relics.

Right now, my priority is to build up my 2nd team & attempt Forgotten Halls 11-15. I wanna try hitting Memory Of Chaos ASAP.

Prioritize in this order; character levels, their light cones & traces.

Leave relics last.

I cleared everything including Simulated Universe Difficulty 2 with +0 relics.

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post May 18 2023, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(Ayer @ May 18 2023, 09:38 AM)
Man I been sleeping on moc. Just found out after this post that it's an event that resets and last one was just yesterday?

Pita to build second team lol
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Pretty sure this game gonna make you build 3 or more teams lol

Gotta get used to building characters.

MoC resets every 2 weeks I guess. Decent source to farm Stellar Jades
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post May 19 2023, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(kueks @ May 19 2023, 12:53 AM)
but once finish story, wat to farm to get higher TL

i just reach second planet, will the msq be long?

traces can up unlimited for all ?

or like genshin, can only up certain into max
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There are multiple ways to get TL exp. From quests, domains, calyx etc. So, I wouldn't worry about TL.

Now that you've reached Xianzhou Luofu...just enjoy the story. No need to zoom through.

Traces is like Genshin's character talents.

So, personally I don't level up all of the traces.

For instance supporters like March, I don't level up her Basic Attack or Ultimate...because I don't expect her to do much damage in the 1st place.

March is only valued for her shield, so I prioritized levelling up her Skill & anything that buffs her shield only.
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post May 21 2023, 06:34 AM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 21 2023, 12:00 AM)
Got one interesting npc called Xue Yi, hopefully will become playable in the future
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If you need to know, Xue Yi is

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post May 26 2023, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ayer @ May 25 2023, 08:54 PM)
Seems like her kit is all in on Nihility, still not sure what to build her team around lol. She might be more fun in the future once we get more chars, but not now
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Based on Hoyoverse's trend...the 5* that they released, usually have some synergy with existing characters & the upcoming characters in the next few patches.

They won't release a stand-alone character that doesn't work well at the time of release.

It won't be good for business that way.


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post May 31 2023, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(kueks @ May 31 2023, 12:28 PM)
why max upgrade for 5  star relic

+15 ?

so low ?
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Because there are 6 pieces to equip instead of 5 pieces.

QUOTE(hayrol @ May 31 2023, 03:16 PM)
Idk about u guys, but for now I'm stick with purple EQ (4 star relic).
Right now, my purple EQ giving me the stat that I want, while my gold 5 star relic always troll me with garbage stat. I only got few good 5 star relic & put them to my main character.

Most my character equip with +9 upgrade for their relic with exception to my main carry where I equip them with +12 relic as max.
I try to put all my character SPD at lease 110 & above due to certain boss with high level will always troll with their turn to attack.
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Don't sweat it, we're still in the early phase of the game.

I'm clearing MoC now using +0 relics. Some are 3* pieces too.

Only max out the DPS.

Supporters can still pull it through with +0 & 3* for now.

I'm not even looking at substats yet.

The main priority now is to get the character levels, light cone levels & the right traces first.

Relics can really wait.
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post Jun 28 2023, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(hayrol @ Jun 28 2023, 12:41 PM)
Nooooo......

I lose 50/50 again, I desperately need another healer.
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Bronya's pretty good.

Just stack as much Crit DMG on her as possible, that's it.

And use ER Link Rope, ideally with Vonwacq set.
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post Jun 30 2023, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jun 30 2023, 09:30 AM)
Same plan here.
I prefer straight up damage compare to DoT. I am still doubting Kafka's ability. Heard her nerf is worse than Blade's.
Can get Kafka when she return next time, to me meta > Waifu  laugh.gif
I notice since we usually stack a lot of attack on Luocha, his HP would suffer. So need to put some HP stats on him also else he will be squishy.
Adding a shielder might be counterproductive since we want Luocha to trigger his passive heal when allies drop below 50% hp (to charge up the healing field trigger). Maybe a Fire MC will do, not too much shield and just right. Gepard will not work well in a team with Luocha.. too thicc shields.

So yea that's Luocha's downside. But in battles where he survives it's gonna make the battle much easier.  thumbup.gif
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Give the Nihility path in SU a try, of course you need to bring someone that can apply DoT (Serval, Sampo, Hook).

Then you may notice how broken is DoT vs straight up damage laugh.gif

But ultimately, there's no right or wrong way to play this le...DoT isn't for everyone but it's still very viable.
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post Jul 1 2023, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(kueks @ Jul 1 2023, 11:22 PM)
i only have natasha no bailu haha

shud go for loucha? xD
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If you feel that the lack of healer/shielder is preventing you from getting more stars from MoC, then by all means go ahead.

Unlike the common perception, healers may only be valuable early game.

Late game, it's all about Speed, DPS & CC.

I've passed MoC without any healer.

For me, I'd value Luocha as;

1. Cleanser
2. Debuffer
3. Skill point generator

Healing is just a bonus.

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post Jul 2 2023, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(kueks @ Jul 1 2023, 11:56 PM)
oh wow, i dont have high damage dealers,  sad.gif

now saving star pass in case seele coming soon  laugh.gif
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Seele's re-run won't happen so soon la.

In terms of DPS, you can look forward to Kafka, Blade & Jingliu. They should be coming around the corner.

None of them is from The Hunt...but they should pack a punch.

If you want specifically those from The Hunt, then only Topaz & Raiden Mei are coming.

No idea when though.

However, if you got Sushang, she's a great option too...so can build her.

E6 Sushang can be as good as E0 Seele.
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post Jul 3 2023, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jul 3 2023, 02:52 PM)

All 3 stars?  shocking.gif

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Not all, just a particular floor only because coincidentally my best team can break easily there.

Basically, you can bulldoze your way through purely with damage. Just gotta ensure you got the right elements.
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post Jul 5 2023, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jul 4 2023, 11:12 PM)
Yea that’s the problem I having also. Trying to get more stars for stellar jade farming. Saw someone made it all stars with one team being Seele+shield+buffers, the other Clara+Luocha+Yukong+buffer combo. Too bad I don’t have Clara else can try aim for the stars. Need one more strong dps, hoping Blade able to do it with Luocha. Will wait for more reviews first before I try to pull for Blade next update.

Don’t wanna invest more into Yanqing or Dan Heng if now at lvl 60-70 also not doing so well.
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Clara, Luocha & Yukong...that must be Kekon's video la.

That bugger's relics are stacked like hell, probably doing daily refreshes with Stellar Jades.

I have Clara, mine is 112 CV behind Kekon's Clara.

...and her damage's pretty pathetic at the moment. I'm using her more like a tank/taunt instead.
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post Jul 12 2023, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(fjoru103 @ Jul 11 2023, 02:31 PM)
I just hit 70, so far my mains are Main character (fire tank),Dan Heng, Seele and Natasha, I plan to lvl Welt to 70 as well.

But then tht's all I have got, should I level others?
I don't have much other characters, but some that I have sort of good one i guess were Qingque, Sushang, Tingyun, Pela and Yanqing, that's all, who should I level?
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Do you plan to climb up Memory Of Chaos?

You'll need March as another shielder to keep the team alive. She goes well with Welt in perma freeze team. Sushang's great here too, keep on getting free hits on broken enemies delayed by Welt.

Seele goes well with Tingyun (or Bronya), they'll buff her burst to oblivion.

Yanqing goes well with Pela.

There are characters that work well with each other...that's how you normally should decide who to build.


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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Jul 29 2023, 06:30 PM)
The new MOC is easier. Managed 30 stars with the same team with slightly upgraded relics and traces
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What's your team for MoC 9 & 10?

I feel that winning combat in Star Rail is very heavy on having the right DPS to break the toughness bar.

And sometimes the right support to overcome certain pain in the ass enemies too.
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post Jul 31 2023, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Jul 30 2023, 02:14 PM)
Moc 9 use fireMC Natasha Sushang SW top half, Seele Bailu TY Asta bottom half

Moc 10 reverse side

Mainly using SW Bailu and TY to break as most of the bosses have no weakness for physical and Quantum

Used 19 turns each so just managed
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Silver Wolf helped a lot by creating the weakness that you need on the enemies.

I don't have Silver Wolf, and Bailu too.

But I'll try a similar setup & see if I can pass MoC 9 & 10.

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