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Daihatsu rigged safety test.. AXIA affected!
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TSJedi
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Apr 29 2023, 12:56 AM, updated 3y ago
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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/business/to...00-cars-3451851QUOTE Toyota-affiliate Daihatsu rigged safety test for 88,000 cars
TOKYO : Toyota Motor Corp affiliate Daihatsu rigged part of the door in side-collision safety tests carried out for some 88,000 small cars, most of which were sold under the Toyota brand, the companies said on Friday.
They said the door trim on the affected vehicles had been modified with a "notch" to minimise the risk in testing that the door interior could break with a sharp edge and cause injury to an occupant when the side airbag deployed in an accident.
The modification for testing was not part of the production vehicle, the companies said.
Toyota Chairman Akio Toyoda said the companies were investigating how the side-panel of Yaris and other models had been changed for safety testing and apologised for what he called an "unacceptable" violation of consumer trust.
Toyota said it had not received any report of an accident or injury related to the rigged side-crash test.
It was not immediately clear who had rigged the doors for crash testing, how widespread the knowledge of the action had been within Daihatsu and whether senior managers had approved the step.
"We'll proceed with a detailed investigation from here on, but promise to decisively understand what happened at the site, investigate the true intentions and sincerely work to prevent a recurrence," Toyoda told reporters.
"We're going to need some time to do that," he said.
Daihatsu said it had discovered the rigged safety test after a whistleblower report. It said it had reported the issue to regulatory agencies and stopped shipment of affected models.
The affected models include Toyota Yaris Ativs made in Thailand from last August, and Perodua Axias manufactured in Malaysia starting from February.
Of the 88,000-plus vehicles, some 76,000 were Yaris models mainly bound for Thailand, Mexico and Gulf Cooperation Council countries, Daihatsu said.
About 11,800 affected vehicles were Axias manufactured by Daihatsu at a joint venture plant it runs with Malaysian automaker Perodua. Those cars were sold in Malaysia.
The Gulf Cooperation Council comprises Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain and Oman.
Daihatsu said it would run new safety tests in the presence of regulators and confirm the safety of the models before resuming shipments.
The discovery of the rigged safety test is the first crisis for Toyota President Koji Sato, who took over the top job from Toyoda on April 1.
"We have to find the cause of what happened, including examining the environment in which it happened, and once we've confirmed that to take appropriate action to address the underlying cause," Sato said.
Toyoda, who was Toyota president in 2010 when a string of recalls prompted U.S. investigations, said he wanted all Toyota employees and those at affiliates to understand that "making better cars" required a commitment to speak out about problems.
"We can't run away from this or hide," he said.
Daihatsu, which specialises in the production of small cars, became a wholly owned Toyota subsidiary in 2016 when Toyoda was president.
The incident comes at a time when Toyota has been ramping production back up from restrictions imposed by a shortage of semiconductors, facing pressure to move faster to roll out new and cost-competitive electric vehicles and dealing with a sales slump in China, a key market.
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TSJedi
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Apr 29 2023, 12:57 AM
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Habislah
Mod lagi mod lagi. Tebu mod.
Thats why ady know smtg fishy always pass asean NCAP 4 5 stars... But nv do US and EU crash test the real test which mazda and volvo top score.
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SUSipohps3
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Apr 29 2023, 01:02 AM
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jeng99
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diffyhelman2
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Apr 29 2023, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Apr 29 2023, 12:57 AM) Habislah Mod lagi mod lagi. Tebu mod. Thats why ady know smtg fishy always pass asean NCAP 4 5 stars... But nv do US and EU crash test the real test which mazda and volvo top score. car model not sold in EU and US so no do crash test there lo...you ingat crash test not expensive meh.... This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Apr 29 2023, 01:03 AM
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misaka
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Apr 29 2023, 01:10 AM
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P2 speed > all
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PepegaMan
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Apr 29 2023, 01:11 AM
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New Member
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So got sudoku?
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FusionXY
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Apr 29 2023, 01:12 AM
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Win Liao Lor.
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JohnL77
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Apr 29 2023, 01:17 AM
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The plot thickens. The metal used in cars, aircraft, space rockets and defence equipment also got problem. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/o...da-mazda-boeingEdit: Ah shit. danabu shared story from 2017. This post has been edited by JohnL77: Apr 29 2023, 01:31 AM
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FusionXY
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Apr 29 2023, 01:19 AM
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So how new axia owners? Sent back?
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JohnL77
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Apr 29 2023, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Apr 29 2023, 01:19 AM) So how new axia owners? Sent back? Keep quiet to protect resale value lo.
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SUSxiaojohn
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Apr 29 2023, 01:27 AM
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Apr 29 2023, 12:56 AM) Shit japanese…i still don’t understand why they such a crook
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dev/numb
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Apr 29 2023, 01:27 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2023, 01:17 AM) The plot thickens. The metal used in cars, aircraft, space rockets and defence equipment also got problem. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/o...da-mazda-boeingThat story is from 2017.
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FusionXY
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Apr 29 2023, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2023, 01:20 AM) Keep quiet to protect resale value lo. Cukur didn't book yet.  Planning to get Myvi to replace old Kenari. See when Kenari can tahan. Since 2007 iinm.
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JohnL77
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Apr 29 2023, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Apr 29 2023, 01:27 AM) Ah shit. My bad.
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Avex
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Apr 29 2023, 01:33 AM
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so now safety rating is no star?
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FusionXY
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Apr 29 2023, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE(Avex @ Apr 29 2023, 01:33 AM) so now safety rating is no star? Negative
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JohnL77
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Apr 29 2023, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE(Avex @ Apr 29 2023, 01:33 AM) so now safety rating is no star? The door trim might poke you if side collision. QUOTE They said the door trim on the affected vehicles had been modified with a "notch" to minimise the risk in testing that the door interior could break with a sharp edge and cause injury to an occupant when the side airbag deployed in an accident.
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kcchong2000
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Apr 29 2023, 02:12 AM
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Imposiboruuuuuuuuu....... according to /k only Chyna CCP tipu results. JAV yamate oniichan will not tipu punya.
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BobThe Builder
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Apr 29 2023, 02:13 AM
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QUOTE when the side airbag deployed axia got side airbag? biar betik
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FusionXY
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Apr 29 2023, 02:37 AM
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QUOTE(BobThe Builder @ Apr 29 2023, 02:13 AM) axia got side airbag? biar betik Only AV Spec got.
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teehk_tee
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Apr 29 2023, 03:23 AM
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Impossible Japanese liars and fake results impossible
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poco loco
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Apr 29 2023, 04:43 AM
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guess manual gonna delay longer then
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SUSGrandpaKitchen
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Apr 29 2023, 06:01 AM
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New Member
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axia ada airbaggs??!?
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vin_ann
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Apr 29 2023, 06:06 AM
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Only Axia & Vios?
Ativa, Corolla Cross not affected?
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arcadicus
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Apr 29 2023, 06:55 AM
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Oh no
This post has been edited by arcadicus: Apr 29 2023, 06:57 AM
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CyberKewl
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Apr 29 2023, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Apr 29 2023, 06:06 AM) Only Axia & Vios? Ativa, Corolla Cross not affected? where says vios affected - that's under parent toyota not daihatsu
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ZeaXG
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Apr 29 2023, 07:30 AM
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Must be CCP company change name to be fake Jepunis company
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ben3003
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Apr 29 2023, 07:43 AM
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Lol the model all is south east asia model. So u can understand already la.
Design by local expertise anyway. So is local engineer or lead designer did all this sohai shit
This post has been edited by ben3003: Apr 29 2023, 07:44 AM
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MR_alien
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Apr 29 2023, 08:26 AM
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if people buy axia and expect it to be safe
thn i don't know what to say anymore
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fantasy1989
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Apr 29 2023, 08:27 AM
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jeng jeng jeng
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Skylinestar
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Apr 29 2023, 08:28 AM
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fantasy1989
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Apr 29 2023, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Apr 29 2023, 07:28 AM) where says vios affected - that's under parent toyota not daihatsu New vios used DNGA as for vios ..it was stated in pauline article in summary ..almost all model that used DNGA chassis ada chance of getting rigged result This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Apr 29 2023, 08:30 AM
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Knnbuccb
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Apr 29 2023, 08:30 AM
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Recently ANA accidentally put low price for business ticket and had to cancel and refund passengers ...
Seems like jepunis integrity is overrated.. but at least they admit it in this case...
But then again, if they try to sweep under carpet, the whistleblower knows and if shit happens during an accident he comes out and report it, it would be even worse.
This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Apr 29 2023, 08:31 AM
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CyberKewl
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Apr 29 2023, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Apr 29 2023, 08:28 AM) New vios used DNGA as for vios ..it was stated in pauline article ah i get you now. but does that mean all cars using DNGA kena? Ativa, new ALZA too? hmm
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danielmckey
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Apr 29 2023, 08:32 AM
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Told you dun buy P2. Now become tin Milo already.
This post has been edited by danielmckey: Apr 29 2023, 08:33 AM
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Skylinestar
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Apr 29 2023, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Apr 29 2023, 01:19 AM) So how new axia owners? Sent back? What can P2 do to compensate? Free maintenance (parts and labor) for 10 years?
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moiskyrie
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Apr 29 2023, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Apr 29 2023, 01:19 AM) So how new axia owners? Sent back? QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2023, 01:20 AM) Keep quiet to protect resale value lo. Suddenly new axia got many stock... No need wait 6~12 month....
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Skylinestar
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Apr 29 2023, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Apr 29 2023, 08:32 AM) Told you dun buy P2. Now become tin Milo already. It doesn't become tin milo. It IS tin milo. Begger can't be chooser. Seriously, I'm waiting for budget manual Axia. Already past Raya but still no news.
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moiskyrie
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Apr 29 2023, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Apr 29 2023, 08:32 AM) Told you dun buy P2. Now become tin Milo already. Worst that tin milo now?
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danielmckey
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Apr 29 2023, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Apr 29 2023, 06:06 AM) Only Axia & Vios? Ativa, Corolla Cross not affected? If they can play one safety test. You think others model guarantee safe? Where is the regulator when so many production that not even being check at all.
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Rudd
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Apr 29 2023, 08:37 AM
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Axia, sakit
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GTA5
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Apr 29 2023, 08:42 AM
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"Daihatsu said it had discovered the rigged safety test after a whistleblower report."
Bullshit.
More like Daihat-tipu have to confess after the whistleblower report came out
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niakulah
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Apr 29 2023, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Apr 29 2023, 01:19 AM) So how new axia owners? Sent back? The modification for testing was not part of the production vehicle, the companies said. I guess can still recall and apply the mod they did for the crash test? But reputation damage done already.
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iGamer
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Apr 29 2023, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(Avex @ Apr 29 2023, 01:33 AM) so now safety rating is no star? 5 star for cheating
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danabu
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Apr 29 2023, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2023, 01:17 AM) The plot thickens. The metal used in cars, aircraft, space rockets and defence equipment also got problem. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/o...da-mazda-boeingEdit: Ah shit. danabu shared story from 2017. It is clear the article was 2017.... And Jap cheating still on going...
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arcadicus
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Apr 29 2023, 08:57 AM
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cars affected ah???
This post has been edited by arcadicus: Apr 29 2023, 09:01 AM
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kaizoku30
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Apr 29 2023, 09:02 AM
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Picess ka the toyolda SA keep posting how good toyolda is. I forget his name dy la bugima.
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afoka
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Apr 29 2023, 09:16 AM
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Syukur beli Vellfire 2013...secondhand pun still strong.
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Acoen
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Apr 29 2023, 09:17 AM
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RV, durability > anything else
Who's care
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blmse92
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Apr 29 2023, 09:20 AM
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Honda best. oh wai ada steering rack issue
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kweil
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Apr 29 2023, 09:23 AM
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hike up price with penipu scammer test
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fantasy1989
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Apr 29 2023, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Apr 29 2023, 01:19 AM) So how new axia owners? Sent back? if they recall and replace side door for u fitten wont be as good as original and also paint differences and when sell car.. seller can kacau you on side impact so that door replaced.
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Jasonist
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Apr 29 2023, 09:38 AM
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Yaris Ativ means our new Toyota Vios also kenak la.. niamah
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Darkspreader
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Apr 29 2023, 09:40 AM
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Habis vios axia 2023 RV kekkk
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kang6421
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Apr 29 2023, 09:52 AM
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i wonder those ridding on DNGA like ativa, alza/veloz got problem or not?
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Bill888
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Apr 29 2023, 10:12 AM
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This type of cars you expect good safety ratings. 😅🤣 You look at the car already know one bang finish. People buy such cars because no money and want save fuel.
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SUStonewow
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Apr 29 2023, 10:19 AM
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lucky wei Perodua Ativa or Daihatsu Rocky lepasss no issue
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mushigen
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Apr 29 2023, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 29 2023, 08:26 AM) if people buy axia and expect it to be safe thn i don't know what to say anymore the door interior could break with a sharp edge and cause injury to an occupant when the side airbag... They're not wrong in expecting the side airbag to save them instead of harming.
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KingArthurVI
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Apr 29 2023, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Acoen @ Apr 29 2023, 09:17 AM) RV, durability > anything else Who's care Later if new test result come out drop 1 or 2 stars, habislah RV
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mushigen
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Apr 29 2023, 10:24 AM
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piscesguy any comment?
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danielmckey
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Apr 29 2023, 10:26 AM
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Lying is not a sin?
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Avex
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Apr 29 2023, 10:28 AM
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class action suit coming
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JohnL77
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Apr 29 2023, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(danabu @ Apr 29 2023, 08:52 AM) It is clear the article was 2017.... And Jap cheating still on going... Yes, I tried googling what's the conclusion of the Kobe Steel scandal, seems like they just paid some fines, that's it. Same story as Safe and Effective lol.
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