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TSl.ukecas
post Apr 6 2023, 11:38 PM, updated 3y ago

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Last time was semester break so I was looking for a job, found a job accepted salary offer RM1100.
But after working the boss say salary is "following law" 1100 divide (days of the month) times (my working day). I was working from mid of feb to mid of march.
Only got 959 at the end, anything I can do to get my promised amount? Saw from other posts people suggesting to go to some JPP office, I found the website but can't even register an account...

This post has been edited by l.ukecas: Apr 6 2023, 11:39 PM
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post Apr 6 2023, 11:40 PM

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Have employment contract or employment offer ?
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post Apr 6 2023, 11:49 PM

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full time or part time? not min 1.5k min wages?

salary auto count monthly basis, if mid fed then end of feb, march new month count as march salary.

if u got employment letter can go to JTK cunsult from them.
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post Apr 6 2023, 11:54 PM

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Epf sosco kot
TSl.ukecas
post Apr 7 2023, 12:19 AM

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Thank y’all for replying… it was a short term full time job (8am-6pm daily mon to fri for one month), so only agreed the work details in WhatsApp. No epf no socso… does WhatsApp conversation counts as official offer/contract/letter?

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post Apr 7 2023, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(l.ukecas @ Apr 7 2023, 12:19 AM)
Thank y’all for replying… it was a short term full time job (8am-6pm daily mon to fri for one month), so only agreed the work details in WhatsApp. No epf no socso… does WhatsApp conversation counts as official offer/contract/letter?
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not really... need got black n white letter with company letter and agreed salary amount and your signature on it. this only official..
TSl.ukecas
post Apr 7 2023, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(alexchew_2020 @ Apr 7 2023, 12:24 AM)
not really... need got black n white letter with company letter and agreed salary amount and your signature on it.  this only official..
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So there’s absolutely nothing I can do about it? sad.gif
It’s an accounting firm tho but they don’t even have credibility, can I complain to MIA or something?
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post Apr 7 2023, 01:17 AM

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EMPLOYEES PROVIDENT FUND (EPF) STATUTORY CONTRIBUTION RATE FOR EMPLOYEES AT ELEVEN PER CENT (11%) EFFECTIVE 1 JULY 2022 (69/2022)

RM1100
89% = RM979
11% = RM121
RM20 Socso ma.....all number
As of EPF...you get Employer top up 13% le. Total of 24% in EPF every month

untung la

In his paper work, he calculate the EPF for you. in Actual, you can check in KWSP if he did the deposit...
So, ask a payslip from him....
If dont hav payslip, no signed contract...then you are working for nobody

So look for other job la

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post Apr 7 2023, 01:27 AM

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You go tell your boss, you got all the proof that the job was accepted @ RM1.1k. If the boss doesn't pay you that, you'll file a complain to relevant gov department. Tell your boss that if he want the trouble for less than RM150 per month?

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post Apr 7 2023, 11:26 AM

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Last time I complaint to JTK.
You should go to that related department, there is a pengawai to consult.
If the pengawai cant help if no offer letter, just make it as lesson.
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post Apr 7 2023, 11:26 AM

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good luck and keep us update, I would like to know how is it to be dealt.
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post Apr 7 2023, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(l.ukecas @ Apr 6 2023, 11:38 PM)
Last time was semester break so I was looking for a job, found a job accepted salary offer RM1100.
But after working the boss say salary is "following law" 1100 divide (days of the month) times (my working day). I was working from mid of feb to mid of march.
Only got 959 at the end, anything I can do to get my promised amount? Saw from other posts people suggesting to go to some JPP office, I found the website but can't even register an account...
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You might as well list down your working days for Feb and March. Labour dept is quite strict.

Labour law is favoring employees when it comes to deduction. So for February, 1100- (1100/28 x number of non working days including weekend prior to hiring you). So for March, it would be 1100-(1100/31 x number of non working days including weekend after your services is terminated).

I included weekends since your boss given you a round monthly figure and not part time rate per day. If the amount does not tally, you can ask labour dept to calculate for you.

This post has been edited by andrekua2: Apr 7 2023, 02:14 PM
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post Apr 10 2023, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(l.ukecas @ Apr 7 2023, 12:19 AM)
Thank y’all for replying… it was a short term full time job (8am-6pm daily mon to fri for one month), so only agreed the work details in WhatsApp. No epf no socso… does WhatsApp conversation counts as official offer/contract/letter?
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Whatsapp should also be binding (if i'm not wrong), because its still a written reply. When you say "no EPF, no SOCSO" it means you've checked your EPF account and no deduction/ contribution? Or its no because it wasn't mentioned by the boss...?

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 7 2023, 02:10 PM)
You might as well list down your working days for Feb and March. Labour dept is quite strict.

Labour law is favoring employees when it comes to deduction. So for February, 1100- (1100/28 x number of non working days including weekend prior to hiring you). So for March, it would be 1100-(1100/31 x number of non working days including weekend after your services is terminated).

I included weekends since your boss given you a round monthly figure and not part time rate per day. If the amount does not tally, you can ask labour dept to calculate for you.
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Yeah it doesn't seem to make sense that they underpay by only RM150 on purpose. But regardless, when in doubt its always good to check.
TSl.ukecas
post Oct 25 2023, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Apr 10 2023, 02:53 PM)
Whatsapp should also be binding (if i'm not wrong), because its still a written reply. When you say "no EPF, no SOCSO" it means you've checked your EPF account and no deduction/ contribution? Or its no because it wasn't mentioned by the boss...?
Yeah it doesn't seem to make sense that they underpay by only RM150 on purpose. But regardless, when in doubt its always good to check.
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Just finished my finals paper... And yes, there's no contribution to my EPF at all, it indeed makes no sense to underpay RM150 on purpose FOR ONE PEOPLE but he hired 5-6 short term full timers during my time there, all received 150 less. I've been asking around all the new and previous temporary employees there, all the same, no offer letter, most of them also students doing full time 1 to 2 months so they all think it's just a small amount not worth the trouble to go the legal route, but for the boss he got so much extra pocket money from cutting our promised pay. For each month with 6 workers, one year already save 10800.
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post Oct 30 2023, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(l.ukecas @ Oct 25 2023, 02:18 PM)
Just finished my finals paper... And yes, there's no contribution to my EPF at all, it indeed makes no sense to underpay RM150 on purpose FOR ONE PEOPLE but he hired 5-6 short term full timers during my time there, all received 150 less. I've been asking around all the new and previous temporary employees there, all the same, no offer letter, most of them also students doing full time 1 to 2 months so they all think it's just a small amount not worth the trouble to go the legal route, but for the boss he got so much extra pocket money from cutting our promised pay. For each month with 6 workers, one year already save 10800.
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You can report this to the company's PIC and HR, let them know all of you realized this issue. Inform the company to rectify and reimburse, then see what's their response. If no response, follow up with another email. By the time still no response on the 3rd email - i think you can compile all these evidence and file a complaint.

Basically you burnt the bridge when you or any of the others make such complaint. Then again, if its a legit case then I wouldn't want to work for an unethical company like that #justsaying

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post Oct 30 2023, 01:29 PM

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I'm not a labor law expert

You worked from mid-Feb to mid-March. Approximately a month only.

They did calculate correctly

(Total working days) divide with (days of the month)


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post Oct 30 2023, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Oct 30 2023, 01:24 PM)
You can report this to the company's PIC and HR, let them know all of you realized this issue. Inform the company to rectify and reimburse, then see what's their response. If no response, follow up with another email. By the time still no response on the 3rd email - i think you can compile all these evidence and file a complaint.

Basically you burnt the bridge when you or any of the others make such complaint. Then again, its a legit case and I wouldn't want to work for an unethical company like that #justsaying
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Alright thanks for the advise, I'll contact the others and discuss.

QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Oct 30 2023, 01:29 PM)
I'm not a labor law expert

You worked from mid-Feb to mid-March. Approximately a month only.

They did calculate correctly

(Total working days) divide with (days of the month)
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The thing is the boss promised us 1100 for the mid-Feb to mid-March, but only until April (after our job) our salary banked in he say calculate using the calculation. We're just doing gigs, why use full time calculation for termination? We don't even receive epf nor allowances, does that mean I can leak all his client information?? cause no black & white signed to confirm the salary nor nda signed anyways

This post has been edited by l.ukecas: Oct 30 2023, 03:57 PM
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post Oct 30 2023, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(l.ukecas @ Oct 30 2023, 03:55 PM)
The thing is the boss promised us 1100 for the mid-Feb to mid-March, but only until April (after our job) our salary banked in he say calculate using the calculation. We're just doing gigs, why use full time calculation for termination? We don't even receive epf nor allowances, does that mean I can leak all his client information?? cause no black & white signed to confirm the salary nor nda signed anyways
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Check with EPF.. if worked for one month "only" and the company didn't contribute EPF, is it wrong?



 

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