Just curious on your motivation for doing knee down?

Track a lot? If not, there is no riding scenario that REQUIRES knee down on any sane and reasonable speeds on street roads.

If you are doing track? Just watch YouTube videos and practice practice practice on track (it's not that hard) and leave the knee down antics on the track. I'm sure you can get to know instructors at track days.

You don't have to knee down to do a corner above 20.

You just don't go fast or tight enough to need a knee down other than to show off when riding on the street. I can scrap my pegs staying upright to the bike.

I think the real problem is you are not leaning the bike in a corner or counter steering to initiate a lean. Don't confuse knee down from leaning. Racers do knee down to minimize lean angle....and keep the bike more upright.

Watch this
https://youtu.be/U1mSavQ_DXs

What bike are you riding now?

Not to sound harsh, (not my intention) looks like you need a basic course before you try looking for an advanced course.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Apr 3 2023, 09:55 PM

I certainly concur with this.

It's important to learn low speed first to build confidence.

Just to add on, low speed riding and higher speed riding is different. Slow and tight needs you to counter lean and push your bike down. The more lean you can get, the tighter your turns will be.

Where higher speed cornering you need to lean with the bike...but not to the point you require to do knee down by doing street speeds.

I think we already progress to old man Liao. Built up a healthy reserve of "don't give a fvck" and just ride how we want to ride....besides most of our bikes now have so little peg clearance just a spirited normal ride would already max out our lean angles.

Actually if you really want to skill up, take an off road scrambler course first...then only take a track course.

You may think oh I never go off road... But street riding emergency control is better learnt on a dirt bike on loose surfaces.

Why not? Scooter with small wheels and low CoG are even better at it than regular bikes.

Gymkhana is an agility test. The lighter and lower the centre of gravity, the quicker the bike will change direction. Don't confuse leaning for being quick. Smaller wheels also help in changing direction as they have less angular and rotational momentum.

Lighter bikes dont need to lean as much to be equally as quick as a heavier bike.

I used to do a lot of autoX during the days. My 900kg car tuned for it would run rings around other supposedly more sporting cars.