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post Mar 31 2023, 12:18 PM, updated 3y ago

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After about a year of using the TNB smart meter, my experience is that the TNB smart meter monthly consumption figure is consistently around 15% LOWER than my previous meter.

What is your experience like?
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post Mar 31 2023, 12:19 PM

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park. why my house LED meter blinking more vigorously not like my neber?
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post Mar 31 2023, 12:21 PM

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my tnb bill more cheaper after installing the new meter.
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post Mar 31 2023, 12:22 PM

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lama or baru same jer billing...no changes
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post Mar 31 2023, 12:23 PM

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if lower diam2 la.
yes, mine is lower too, actually i already been informed that my old meter were ran 20% faster few months before kena forced to change with smart meter.
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Mar 31 2023, 12:19 PM)
park. why my house LED meter blinking more vigorously not like my neber?
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I never check the blinking rate of my TNB smart meter.

Perhaps yours is blinking faster because your house consumes more electricity than your neighbour?
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Mar 31 2023, 12:19 PM)
park. why my house LED meter blinking more vigorously not like my neber?
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because you use electricity like water.
1 blink=0.001kw used if i recall.
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post Mar 31 2023, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2023, 12:24 PM)
because you use electricity like water.
1 blink=0.001kw used if i recall.
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hmm..actually my house not that much appliances...perhaps needs electrician to check this..
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dunno more accurate or what, but bill is a lil cheaper than last time.....
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Same. I wanted to install solar after they changed to the new meter. Prior to changing my bill is around rm800-900 monthly. Now my bill only around 500. Since then never thought of getting solar anymore.
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QUOTE(nottherealme @ Mar 31 2023, 12:28 PM)
Same. I wanted to install solar after they changed to the new meter. Prior to changing my bill is around rm800-900 monthly. Now my bill only around 500. Since then never thought of getting solar anymore.
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Wow! That is a LOT of decrease. ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Mar 31 2023, 12:26 PM)
hmm..actually my house not that much appliances...perhaps needs electrician to check this..
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for the newer smart meter, you can click the button multiple time until you see 'A' figure.
check for how much those value ya.
also smart meter have two sets of led, one of it is transceiver, another one is on meter itself. the transceiver one no need to bother.
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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 12:30 PM)
Wow! That is a LOT of decrease.  ohmy.gif
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the old meter calibration should lari wan after many years.
its either go faster or go slower.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2023, 12:33 PM)
the old meter calibration should lari wan after many years.
its either go faster or go slower.
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I guess that is the MAIN reason TNB wants us to change to the new digital smart meter

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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 12:36 PM)
I guess that is the MAIN reason TNB wants us to change to the new digital smart meter
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if it is accurate, then its fair la.
problem is people that already enjoyed meter rosak previously are likely to be mad.
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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 12:18 PM)
After about a year of using the TNB smart meter, my experience is that the TNB smart meter monthly consumption figure is consistently around 15% LOWER than my previous meter.

What is your experience like?
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For my house, no changes whistling.gif
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post Mar 31 2023, 12:51 PM

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Same. The smart meter did reduce my bill monthly.
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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 12:18 PM)
After about a year of using the TNB smart meter, my experience is that the TNB smart meter monthly consumption figure is consistently around 15% LOWER than my previous meter.

What is your experience like?
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I thought smart meter reading is always higher than the old one.. no?
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Mar 31 2023, 12:47 PM)
For my house,  no changes  whistling.gif
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Yours is a very rare case. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2023, 12:33 PM)
the old meter calibration should lari wan after many years.
its either go faster or go slower.
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Normally go slower.. moving parts mah.
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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 12:53 PM)
Yours is a very rare case.  laugh.gif
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Maybe before smart meter one, my house meter already a digital one. Not the old spinning mechanical one. sweat.gif

I was hoping to reduce a bit, but nadaaa sad.gif
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No issue for me since using solar panels energy ....
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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Mar 31 2023, 12:53 PM)
Normally go slower.. moving parts mah.
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it can go either way, decayed/corroded/wear out part reduce weight, thus the disc move faster.
slow because of additional frictions.
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Can ayam request tnb to change meter? Mine is changed few years ago but still is not digital meter
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Mar 31 2023, 01:00 PM)
Can ayam request tnb to change meter? Mine is changed few years ago but still is not digital meter
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unless you are suspecting that the meter is broken, then there is no need to change meter.
eventually they will change it sooner or later.
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Mar 31 2023, 01:00 PM)
Can ayam request tnb to change meter? Mine is changed few years ago but still is not digital meter
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No harm asking TNB to change. Only takes about half an hour by the TNB contractor.

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I dunno what meter
Stay flat cannot see meter
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Call TNB Careline at 15454
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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 12:30 PM)
Wow! That is a LOT of decrease.  ohmy.gif
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over the past one year. Since changing the meter. The lowest it has ever gone to is around 300+. We got shocked as well as our usage is still normal. But that only occur twice. Then again I am not complaining haha
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QUOTE(nottherealme @ Mar 31 2023, 01:08 PM)
over the past one year. Since changing the meter. The lowest it has ever gone to is around 300+. We got shocked as well as our usage is still normal. But that only occur twice. Then again I am not complaining haha
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Mar 31 2023, 01:12 PM)
Beware later they claim u tamper meter penalty u kaw kaw
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Can a TNB smart meter be tampered? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(wkn @ Mar 31 2023, 12:21 PM)
my tnb bill more cheaper after installing the new meter.
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Same
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QUOTE(PJng @ Mar 31 2023, 01:05 PM)
I dunno what meter
Stay flat cannot see meter
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I checked with my sister who is staying in a condo.

Yours should be similar.


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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 01:52 PM)
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I checked with my sister who is staying in a condo.

Yours should be similar.
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yes i get bill from TNB, still physical bill
but i cannot se is normal meter or smart meter
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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 01:15 PM)
Can a TNB smart meter be tampered?  unsure.gif
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can, but must do before installation. my neighbor did it, the guy did some soldering on the board and put back meter together with temper proof sticker .
how i know, because neighbor ask pinjam eletricity with extension cords for soldering. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(TRAZE99 @ Mar 31 2023, 02:08 PM)
can, but must do before installation. my neighbor did it, the guy did some soldering on the board and put back meter together with temper proof sticker .
how i know, because neighbor ask pinjam eletricity with extension cords for soldering. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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huh? but the meter installed by TNB wo
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Mine changed about 6weeks ago, still waiting for MyTNB app update, last month bill charges still remain the same prior to meter change.
Changed on Feb20th
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QUOTE(jmas @ Mar 31 2023, 02:11 PM)
huh? but the meter installed by TNB wo
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he did the job same day after the tnb installed new meter. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PJng @ Mar 31 2023, 02:01 PM)
yes i get bill from TNB, still physical bill
but i cannot se is normal meter or smart meter
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My sister said she cannot see whether her meter inside the TNB meter room is a normal analog meter or a smart meter.

My guess is that they have all been changed to the smart meter type.

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QUOTE(TRAZE99 @ Mar 31 2023, 02:16 PM)
he did the job same day after the tnb installed new meter. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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hoho, look back at the meter, got sensor for anti tamper
should be flashing error code now

I know, cuz mine flashing error code

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So those that mean
Price reduce = accurate
Price increase = Songklap
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my analogue meter been spinning over 40 years, monthly bill is around RM60-70. I expect it should go slower when getting older. So haven't change the meter even TNB knocking my door for several times. Think not worth the risk.
Anyone from analogue to smart meter found saving?

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QUOTE(royalben @ Mar 31 2023, 02:24 PM)
So those that mean
Price reduce = accurate
Price increase = Songklap
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If smart meter price increase, possibility of old meter tampering. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Mar 31 2023, 02:29 PM)
my analogue meter been spinning over 40 years, monthly bill is around RM60-70. I expect it should go slower when getting older. So haven't change the meter even TNB knocking my door for several times. Think not worth the risk.
Anyone from analogue to smart meter found saving?
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Most of us with smart meters have found that the bills have REDUCED compared with the old meters.

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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 02:32 PM)
Most of us with smart meters have found that the bills have REDUCED compared with the old meters.
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Your old meter is those analogue spinning type?
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Mar 31 2023, 02:33 PM)
Your old meter is those analogue spinning type?
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Yes, my old analog meter is the spinning type. bruce.gif
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Changed to the new 3-phase smart meter about a year ago bruce.gif
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QUOTE(TRAZE99 @ Mar 31 2023, 02:08 PM)
can, but must do before installation. my neighbor did it, the guy did some soldering on the board and put back meter together with temper proof sticker .
how i know, because neighbor ask pinjam eletricity with extension cords for soldering. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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You also heard before huh...

I got relatives install this... directly change some components inside the meter... but dangerous woh... imagine next time they open the meter, surely find out what...
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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 02:36 PM)
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Yes, my old analog meter is the spinning type.  bruce.gif
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This one still accurate what...

Mine was the black ones, over 30 years before it was replaced last September IIRC. I think mine lari quite a bit. Then I have to change some appliances to newer one to reduce the usage.
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When sesb adopt tnb smart meter? *sigh* sabah as usual at the bottom alongside ktan
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Mar 31 2023, 02:47 PM)
This one still accurate what...

Mine was the black ones, over 30 years before it was replaced last September IIRC. I think mine lari quite a bit. Then I have to change some appliances to newer one to reduce the usage.
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Your new TNB smart meter is now giving the ACCURATE consumption figure compared to previously.

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QUOTE(jmas @ Mar 31 2023, 02:23 PM)
hoho, look back at the meter, got sensor for anti tamper
should be flashing error code now

I know, cuz mine flashing error code
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not sure about that but maybe one day in future will kena kantoi if the tnb open the meter.
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QUOTE(jmas @ Mar 31 2023, 02:23 PM)
hoho, look back at the meter, got sensor for anti tamper
should be flashing error code now

I know, cuz mine flashing error code
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You mean you tampered with your smart meter? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 08:26 PM)
You mean you tampered with your smart meter?  unsure.gif
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i will neither confirm nor deny it whistling.gif
but its showing strong magnet alert, already reported to tnb within 7 days of installation
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QUOTE(jmas @ Mar 31 2023, 08:30 PM)
i will neither confirm nor deny it  whistling.gif
but its showing strong magnet alert, already reported to tnb within 7 days of installation
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So TNB changed a new smart meter for you as replacement? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 08:32 PM)
So TNB changed a new smart meter for you as replacement?  whistling.gif
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nope, they just say no worry about it
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QUOTE(jmas @ Mar 31 2023, 08:37 PM)
nope, they just say no worry about it
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You mean the error code is still flashing but the meter still works perfectly?

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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 08:39 PM)
You mean the error code is still flashing but the meter still works perfectly?
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yes, still work like normal
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how i know if mine is smart meter or not, 2nd hand house buyer

is not analogue for sure, but is it smart meter
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QUOTE(GGSC27 @ Mar 31 2023, 09:51 PM)
how i know if mine is smart meter or not, 2nd hand house buyer

is not analogue for sure, but is it smart meter
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Here is a photo of my 3-phase smart meter just after it was installed (21-March-2022)

The meter reading is still zero.
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To me definitely lower, a house that runs 3 fridges and a freezer plus 5 airconds running nightly. Bill is around rm700 ++ .
If the old analog meter definitely the bill will be surplus of rm1k already.
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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 12:18 PM)
After about a year of using the TNB smart meter, my experience is that the TNB smart meter monthly consumption figure is consistently around 15% LOWER than my previous meter.

What is your experience like?
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Depends whether instrument is accuracy.
But yes, my house was changed from Analog to Digital become more lower.


But you can install another smart meter to double check again laugh.gif
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QUOTE(raynman @ Mar 31 2023, 02:36 PM)
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Yes, my old analog meter is the spinning type.  bruce.gif
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Good, there is backstop too.

Now, buy those grid tie inverter and get few solar panels. nod.gif
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Mar 31 2023, 10:23 PM)
Good, there is backstop too.

Now, buy those grid tie inverter and get few solar panels. nod.gif
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What is a backstop? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(raynman @ Apr 1 2023, 05:44 AM)
What is a backstop?  unsure.gif
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Backstop. It is a mechanism to prevent meter from running backward.

Example, without net metering, if you install solar panel with grid tie inverter and your system produce/export more than you use, the analog meter with backstop mechanism simply stops there.

Digital meter only measures total power regardless of import/export direction. If your house use digital meter, it will count the power that you export as your own consumption, meaning you are double billed.
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Apr 1 2023, 10:13 AM)
Backstop. It is a mechanism to prevent meter from running backward.

Example, without net metering, if you install solar panel with grid tie inverter and your system produce/export more than you use, the analog meter with backstop mechanism simply stops there.

Digital meter only measures total power regardless of import/export direction. If your house use digital meter, it will count the power that you export as your own consumption, meaning you are double billed.
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